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Please stay on topic, which is about easing travel restrictions.  

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2 hours ago, elliss said:

 

      Correct . 

  People , from high risk countries/ first world countries ,

must be denied entry  to the Kingdom..

 

 

Keep dreaming, BPB. You'll have to pay full price, in any case. 😉🤣

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In monetary terms apart from the influx of tourists being rinsed very little has been spent compared to many nations and that could be the conundrum with a micro welfare bill and much of the tourist dependant personnel left to fend for themselves the rich are still rich why rock the boat it's probably as simple as that 🤔  

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On the flip side, there is no zero risk way to put millions of people out of work...

 

The question is... Will flattening the curve reduce the eventual death numbers, or simply prolong the time to economic recovery? 

 

Because there is no question that decimated economies will cause suffering.

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Isn't the horrible rotten truth that we are all coming to terms with the fact that until there is an effective vaccine for COVID, our lives are never going to be 'normal' and we need to understand what the, and hate this phrase, the new normal has to be?

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On 8/2/2020 at 10:18 PM, rabas said:

Thank you China, more COVID-19. A recent study analysed the pandemic and concluded that air travel was a major cause of the virus spreading world wide.

 

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-reveals-cases-covid-china-based.html

 

Amazing, since China/WHO also suggested is was not very contagious until they had to, as China was buying the world's supply of masks. The daily infection rate is about to hit 300,000 confirmed cases per day. 

 

yes and your leader said it is only the flu it will disappear by Easter

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On 8/2/2020 at 9:18 PM, rabas said:

Thank you China, more COVID-19. A recent study analysed the pandemic and concluded that air travel was a major cause of the virus spreading world wide.

 

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-reveals-cases-covid-china-based.html

 

Amazing, since China/WHO also suggested is was not very contagious until they had to, as China was buying the world's supply of masks. The daily infection rate is about to hit 300,000 confirmed cases per day. 

 

No question about that. And so was the administrations willingness to let both Chinese green card holders, and Americans continue to travel back and forth, after the restrictions were put into place, without any screening whatsoever. That was brainless, moronic, dangerous, reckless, bad policy, and resulted in who knows how many thousands of deaths. Therefore, the American version, and what we are seeing now, could realistically be referred to as the Covid Trump version. 

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On 8/2/2020 at 7:18 AM, rabas said:

The daily infection rate is about to hit 300,000 confirmed cases per day. 

 

 

From Johns Hopkins CV report for Aug. 3: (They're talking worldwide, below)

 

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The WHO reported the 2 highest daily incidence to date on July 31 and August 1 —292,527 and 289,321 new cases, respectively. If the current trend continues, the global daily incidence could potentially exceed 300,000 new cases for the first time later this week. The average global daily incidence is nearly 260,000 new cases per day, putting the pandemic on pace for approximately 1.8 million cases per week.

 

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15 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

No question about that. And so was the administrations willingness to let both Chinese green card holders, and Americans continue to travel back and forth, after the restrictions were put into place, without any screening whatsoever. That was brainless, moronic, dangerous, reckless, bad policy, and resulted in who knows how many thousands of deaths. Therefore, the American version, and what we are seeing now, could realistically be referred to as the Covid Trump version. 

 

The bizarre part is, right now today, foreign tourists CAN enter the U.S. from many countries with nothing more than a recommended 14 day stay-at-home period... with no enforcement of that whatsoever AFAIK.

 

The only travel ban countries are those that the U.S. adopted very early in the pandemic, and AFAIK, that list hasn't changed for a long time, even after the CV exploded in South and Central America and elsewhere. And the excluded countries ban below only applies to their foreign nationals, and excludes U.S. citizens and permanent resident status folks returning from those countries.

 

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Most foreign nationals who have been in one of these countries during the previous 14 days will not be allowed to enter the United States.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/map-and-travel-notices.html

 

Perhaps the U.S. is figuring, we're so BAD already, that pretty much nowhere else is going to have anything worse than what we already have among our own citizens...  But still, you'd think they wouldn't want to be voluntarily importing added new CV cases under any circumstance.  No ASQ in the U.S.

 

 

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21 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The bizarre part is, right now today, foreign tourists CAN enter the U.S. from many countries with nothing more than a recommended 14 day stay-at-home period... with no enforcement of that whatsoever AFAIK.

 

The only travel ban countries are those that the U.S. adopted very early in the pandemic, and AFAIK, that list hasn't changed for a long time, even after the CV exploded in South and Central America and elsewhere. And the excluded countries ban below only applies to their foreign nationals, and excludes U.S. citizens and permanent resident status folks returning from those countries.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/map-and-travel-notices.html

 

Perhaps the U.S. is figuring, we're so BAD already, that pretty much nowhere else is going to have anything worse than what we already have among our own citizens...  But still, you'd think they wouldn't want to be voluntarily importing added new CV cases under any circumstance.  No ASQ in the U.S.

 

 

Utter and gross mismanagement at the federal level. The US is on a sort of moronic cruise control, with regard to Covid. That will change in January, once an intelligent leader steps in. 

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6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Utter and gross mismanagement at the federal level. The US is on a sort of moronic cruise control, with regard to Covid. That will change in January, once an intelligent leader steps in. 

 

 

It doesn't matter how intelligent a new incumbent may be  -  he will not compensate for the dumb actions of too many of his citizens.

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True. But there is enormous risk in keeping millions of Thais out of work. Great risk to the army. Change is coming. Rid the country of the toxic army. Let Thailand move forward. 

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On 8/4/2020 at 3:28 AM, GinBoy2 said:

Isn't the horrible rotten truth that we are all coming to terms with the fact that until there is an effective vaccine for COVID, our lives are never going to be 'normal' and we need to understand what the, and hate this phrase, the new normal has to be?

Indeed-and what the WHO is stating at present seems quite reasonable to me.It is,after all,up to the individual nation states what they choose to do in respect to opening their borders and what travel restrictions they have in place and what may be eased in the future.

 

I don't expect these restrictions to change much in the near future as Thailand will be keeping a close eye on China,Singapore and Australia.

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