Fauci resists Republican effort to turn testimony against protesters

[rooster59]

Fauci resists Republican effort to turn testimony against protesters

By David Morgan

 

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, testifies during the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis hearing in Washington, D.C., U.S., July 31, 2020. Kevin Dietsch/Pool via REUTERS

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Top U.S. infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci on Friday resisted efforts by a staunch ally of President Donald Trump to turn his testimony about controlling the coronavirus pandemic into criticism of protests against racial injustice.

 

Fauci clashed with Representative Jim Jordan at a hearing of the U.S. House of Representatives Subcommittee on the Coronavirus, after the Ohio Republican demanded Fauci's opinion about whether protests should be curbed or eliminated to control the pandemic.

 

"Should we limit the protesting?" Jordan asked. When Fauci said he was not in a position to make such a recommendation, the lawmaker retorted: "You make all kinds of recommendations. You make comments on dating, on baseball and everything you could imagine."

 

"I'm not favoring anybody over anybody," Fauci replied. "I'm not going to opine on limiting anything ... I'm telling you what is the danger, and you can make your own conclusion about that. You should stay away from crowds, no matter where the crowds are."

 

Fauci's testimony comes at the end of a month in which U.S. coronavirus deaths rose by almost 25,000 and cases doubled in at least 18 states, according to a Reuters tally, dealing a crushing blow to hopes of quickly reopening the economy.

 

The United States has recorded nearly 1.8 million new COVID-19 cases in July out of its total 4.5 million known infections, an increase of 66% with many states yet to report on Friday. Deaths in July rose at least 19% to a total of more than 152,000.

 

Fauci, who made headlines in March by describing U.S. testing efforts as a failing, repeatedly handed off questions about the current state of testing from Democrats critical of Trump to get him to characterize the current situation to witnesses more directly involved with that effort.

 

Trump, who appeared to be watching the proceedings, weighed against his Democratic critics on Twitter: "Our massive testing capability, rather than being praised, is used by the Lamestream Media and their partner, the Do Nothing Radical Left Democrats, as a point of scorn. This testing, and what we have so quickly done, is used as a Fake News weapon. Sad!"

 

At the start of the hearing, congressional Republicans and Democrats clashed about whether the Trump administration had a national strategy to respond to the coronavirus pandemic.

 

"The administration's approach of deferring to states, sidelining experts and rushing to reopen has prolonged this virus and led to thousands of preventable deaths," said panel Chairman James Clyburn, who denounced Trump's coronavirus response as "among the worst of any country in the world."

 

But Steve Scalise, the subcommittee's top Republican, dismissed Clyburn's criticism as political posturing, saying the Trump administration has provided effective plans for schools, employers, nursing homes and vaccine development.

 

"You wouldn’t even be here today if there wasn’t a plan," he told the witness panel, which also included U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield and Admiral Brett Giroir, assistant secretary at the Department of Health and Human Services.

 

A veteran of six Republican and Democratic administrations, Fauci has become the most familiar face of the administration's coronavirus task force but a target of many conservatives who want to see the economies fully reopened.

 

(Reporting by David Morgan; Editing by Scott Malone, Jonathan Oatis and Bill Berkrot)

 

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[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Representative Jim Jordan

this guy needs to step down from his horse and attitude adjustment, he's a jerk, why at any hearing he's always insulting people on the opposite panel, does he not understand that people have the right to different opinions and they can agree to disagree without sounding/acting like a jerk

[seajae]

9 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

this guy needs to step down from his horse and attitude adjustment, he's a jerk, why at any hearing he's always insulting people on the opposite panel, does he not understand that people have the right to different opinions and they can agree to disagree without sounding/acting like a jerk

problem is dems are using lies and innuendo to make their points so he is trying to get at the truth which dems refuse to do, maybe if dems were honest about it he wouldnt attack them. His points when the AG was questioned about dems totally ignoring the truth about the rioting etc as well as them not letting the AG reply to their questions was spot on to anyone that watched it, what is needed is the truth and not all the dems BS

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

this guy needs to step down from his horse and attitude adjustment, he's a jerk, why at any hearing he's always insulting people on the opposite panel, does he not understand that people have the right to different opinions and they can agree to disagree without sounding/acting like a jerk

 

There's that. And then there's the same thing on offer from the Democrats, all too often, sadly. Case in point, Barr's session covered in a recent topic.

[Morch]

51 minutes ago, seajae said:

problem is dems are using lies and innuendo to make their points so he is trying to get at the truth which dems refuse to do, maybe if dems were honest about it he wouldnt attack them. His points when the AG was questioned about dems totally ignoring the truth about the rioting etc as well as them not letting the AG reply to their questions was spot on to anyone that watched it, what is needed is the truth and not all the dems BS

 

Of course, it's only the other side acting in an underhanded manner. Sure. Got to wonder if posters actually believe what they post.

[JusticeGB]

16 minutes ago, Morch said:

Of course, it's only the other side acting in an underhanded manner. Sure. Got to wonder if posters actually believe what they post.

Yet another Liberal Democrat spouting off. This is political gamesmanship with real lives at stake.

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Should we limit the protesting?" Jordan asked. When Fauci said he was not in a position to make such a recommendation, the lawmaker retorted: "You make all kinds of recommendations. You make comments on dating, on baseball and everything you could imagine."

 

"I'm not favoring anybody over anybody," Fauci replied. "I'm not going to opine on limiting anything ... I'm telling you what is the danger, and you can make your own conclusion about that. You should stay away from crowds, no matter where the crowds are."

Well said. 

[johnnybangkok]

2 hours ago, seajae said:

problem is dems are using lies and innuendo to make their points so he is trying to get at the truth which dems refuse to do, maybe if dems were honest about it he wouldnt attack them. His points when the AG was questioned about dems totally ignoring the truth about the rioting etc as well as them not letting the AG reply to their questions was spot on to anyone that watched it, what is needed is the truth and not all the dems BS

What BS are you refering to? No one is denying that crowds don't help C19 but importantly, Fauci is saying that ALL crowds are bad and not singling out any in particular. He is also saying that masks are important in the fight. This is very much in line with the vast majority of what leading Dems are saying but it's the GOP (and especially Trump) who has politicised all of this to the point where non-mask wearing is now a GOP thing.  

This is why Jordan was trying to drag Fauci into an opinion. He's not there trying to find out what's best to combat this pandemic, he's only trying to score some political points so his his dear leader will pat him on the head now and again. All this at the expense of a man who has done nothing but help his fellow Americans and guide them as best he can.

If there's any BS, start with Jordan. 

[watthong]

2 hours ago, seajae said:

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

this guy needs to step down from his horse and attitude adjustment, he's a jerk, why at any hearing he's always insulting people on the opposite panel, does he not understand that people have the right to different opinions and they can agree to disagree without sounding/acting like a jerk

problem is dems are using lies and innuendo to make their points so he is trying to get at the truth which dems refuse to do, maybe if dems were honest about it he wouldnt attack them. His points when the AG was questioned about dems totally ignoring the truth about the rioting etc as well as them not letting the AG reply to their questions was spot on to anyone that watched it, what is needed is the truth and not all the dems BS

Jim Jordan, number one Repub attack dog, who got no manners, neither deserving nor redeeming, to be sitting in the chamber of Congress. I would only allow him to be there due to his position if he wears a muzzle (not to be confused with a covid mask). It's always time for a bathroom break whenever the mad-looking dude starts barking at his turn.

 

And yet..."he is trying to get at the truth which dems refuse to do, maybe if dems were honest about it he wouldnt attack them." You must be high on something.  Jordan's brain would go into shock if a sliver of truth ever manager to get inside it. Even a blind (due respect to the blind) could see, or in this case, hear.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, JusticeGB said:

Yet another Liberal Democrat spouting off. This is political gamesmanship with real lives at stake.

 

Yet another muddled post without substance or point. You want to claim only one side behaves badly? Go for it.

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

What BS are you refering to? No one is denying that crowds don't help C19 but importantly, Fauci is saying that ALL crowds are bad and not singling out any in particular. He is also saying that masks are important in the fight. This is very much in line with the vast majority of what leading Dems are saying but it's the GOP (and especially Trump) who has politicised all of this to the point where non-mask wearing is now a GOP thing.  

This is why Jordan was trying to drag Fauci into an opinion. He's not there trying to find out what's best to combat this pandemic, he's only trying to score some political points so his his dear leader will pat him on the head now and again. All this at the expense of a man who has done nothing but help his fellow Americans and guide them as best he can.

If there's any BS, start with Jordan. 

There was an egg in the face moment when Jim Jordan keep flapping his gum for a good amount of time and turn to Dr Fauci for respond only to be ask by the good doctor “what was the question”. Like you rightly said, he tried to drag the doctor into a gotcha question only for Fauci to give him nothing. Brilliantly done by Fauci. 

[4MyEgo]

4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

A veteran of six Republican and Democratic administrations, Fauci has become the most familiar face of the administration's coronavirus task force but a target of many conservatives who want to see the economies fully reopened.

Having someone in this position for so long, makes it so dangerous for many............

[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Having someone in this position for so long, makes it so dangerous for many............

4 years are way too long for him and fraught with dangers and abuse of law and order. 

[mtls2005]

Gym Jordan is a strange, angry, bitter man. Dr. Fauci graduated #1 in his class at Cornell Med, and has served our country as a medical professional for 40 years. Gym-bob didn't pass the bar.  

 

His district is even more strange. Looks sea-horsey to me?

 

 

[4MyEgo]

6 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

4 years are way too long for him and fraught with dangers and abuse of law and order. 

Dr. Fauci was appointed Director of NIAID in 1984. He oversees an extensive research portfolio of basic and applied research to prevent, diagnose, and treat established infectious diseases such as HIV/AIDS, respiratory infections, diarrheal diseases, tuberculosis and malaria as well as emerging diseases such as Ebola and Zika. NIAID also supports research on transplantation and immune-related illnesses, including autoimmune disorders, asthma and allergies.

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director

 

 

[simple1]

*Deleted post edited out*

Let's hear from you praising trump's support for Stella Immanuel. For the meantime trump's been re-tweeting Breitbart stuff - way to go for the President of the USA - MAGA! 

 

 

Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have taken down a viral video retweeted by Donald Trump which claims that Dr Anthony Fauci misled the country on hydroxychloroquine. 

The clip, which was originally posted by the right-wing news site Breitbart, featured four people who identified themselves as doctors speaking in front of the Supreme Court building. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8566907/Donald-Trump-goes-Twitter-binge-retweets-posts-praising-hydroxychloroquine.html

[rupert the bear]

yet another hand bags at dawn face off in USA politics and it spills over onto the forum,ok girls calm down dont smudge your lipstick,we are all sick of rep and dem shananigans .the list is almost endless and the rest of the world holds their head in their hands.shut up the pair of you we all need a break.respect of others is forgotten as they bitch whine and bleat constantly,only thing theyve gotten right is china. its the only thing they can agree on,move forward on that and do us all a favour.yep all the things you keep calling each other,they apply to xi and his stormtroopers greedy ,nationalistic, non democratic, racists, cheating, lying, stealing ,USA aint china so pipe down and see where the real enemy is,your both on the same page there.

[Opl]

11 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Dr. Fauci was appointed Director of NIAID in 1984. He oversees an extensive research portfolio of basic and applied research to prevent, diagnose, and treat established infectious diseases such as HIV/AIDS, respiratory infections, diarrheal diseases, tuberculosis and malaria as well as emerging diseases such as Ebola and Zika. NIAID also supports research on transplantation and immune-related illnesses, including autoimmune disorders, asthma and allergies.

"I’ve known Fauci since the H.I.V./aids epidemic exploded, in the mid-eighties. He once explained to me that he has developed a method for dealing with political leaders in times of crisis: “I go to my favorite book of philosophy, ‘The Godfather,’ and say, ‘It’s nothing personal, it’s strictly business.’ ” He continued, “You just have a job to do. Even when somebody’s acting ridiculous, you can’t chide them for it. You’ve got to deal with them. Because if you don’t deal with them, then you’re out of the picture.”"

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/04/20/how-anthony-fauci-became-americas-doctor

[Mavideol]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Let's hear from you praising trump's support for Stella Immanuel. For the meantime trump's been re-tweeting Breitbart stuff - way to go for the President of the USA - MAGA! 

 

 

Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have taken down a viral video retweeted by Donald Trump which claims that Dr Anthony Fauci misled the country on hydroxychloroquine. 

The clip, which was originally posted by the right-wing news site Breitbart, featured four people who identified themselves as doctors speaking in front of the Supreme Court building. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8566907/Donald-Trump-goes-Twitter-binge-retweets-posts-praising-hydroxychloroquine.html

his side kick down in Brazil also praised the drug and still got infected, after 3-4 tests he finally (supposedly) tested negative, now his wife tested positive and the funny thing he stopped praising the drug, claiming it may have given him mushroom type feeling in the lungs yet Trump keeps going after it.... maybe he wants to get rid of the 30+ millions purchased in a hurry that he and Navarro have in inventory

[Mama Noodle]

This article is perfect for this forums demographic. 

[Opl]

5 hours ago, seajae said:

problem is dems are using lies and innuendo to make their points so he is trying to get at the truth which dems refuse to do, maybe if dems were honest about it he wouldnt attack them. His points when the AG was questioned about dems totally ignoring the truth about the rioting etc as well as them not letting the AG reply to their questions was spot on to anyone that watched it, what is needed is the truth and not all the dems BS

And why single out "protesters"only .. and not for instance Tulsa Trump's rally, and why did attendees had to sign COVID-19 waiver? And why did Trump campaign remove thousands of social distancing stickers? And why not in-person fundraising rallies? Where is the difference?  

 

   

Edited August 1, 2020 by Opl

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

Gym Jordan is a strange, angry, bitter man. Dr. Fauci graduated #1 in his class at Cornell Med, and has served our country as a medical professional for 40 years. Gym-bob didn't pass the bar.  

 

His district is even more strange. Looks sea-horsey to me?

 

 

GOP gerrymandering at its finest. 

[moe666]

4 hours ago, JusticeGB said:

Yet another Liberal Democrat spouting off. This is political gamesmanship with real lives at stake.

Tell that to the 150,000 who have died needlessly because the President refused to do his job and lead. Too much time on the T.V. watching Fox and friends and not enough time spent on actually putting people in positions they were qualified to lead. Too much time spent on telling the world what a great job I have done but at the end of the day the job that was done was a failure. Too much time spent blaming other instead of taking the bull by the horns and getting things done. The worse response to covid by any country in the world, considering the resources and money the US has to confront this virus head on. But no it would just go away like a miracle. Poof 150,00 dead in what 7 months. 

[johnnybangkok]

29 minutes ago, rupert the bear said:

yet another hand bags at dawn face off in USA politics and it spills over onto the forum,ok girls calm down dont smudge your lipstick,we are all sick of rep and dem shananigans .the list is almost endless and the rest of the world holds their head in their hands.shut up the pair of you we all need a break.respect of others is forgotten as they bitch whine and bleat constantly,only thing theyve gotten right is china. its the only thing they can agree on,move forward on that and do us all a favour.yep all the things you keep calling each other,they apply to xi and his stormtroopers greedy ,nationalistic, non democratic, racists, cheating, lying, stealing ,USA aint china so pipe down and see where the real enemy is,your both on the same page there.

No we are not all “sick of rep and dem shenanigans” we are just sick of rep shenanigans. 
And I really don’t see how your anti-China diatribe is relevant to this thread. We are discussing Fauci and Jordan. Nothing to do with China so perhaps take a bit of your own advice and “pipe down “. 
PS Grammar And punctuation is important when establishing credibility. 

[Mavideol]

21 minutes ago, Opl said:

And why single out "protesters"only .. and not for instance Tulsa Trump's rally, and why did attendees had to sign COVID-19 waiver? And why did Trump campaign remove thousands of social distancing stickers? And why not in-person fundraising rallies? Where is the difference?  

 

   

and michigan, arizona and florida campaign/fund raise

[Mama Noodle]

The left: SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN 

 

The Right: What about rights, employment, childcare etc

 

The Left: YOU'RE KILLING PEOPLE SCIENCE DENIER 

 

The Left again: *Massive hordes of people, riots and mass gatherings*
 

The Left one more time: See? Republicans opened too early now they’re killing people! 

[Eric Loh]

48 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

This article is perfect for this forums demographic. 

Something is not right for that section of the shrinking demographic. 

[opalred]

who is that little man with big mouth/jorden is it like to have him living next door

[johnnybangkok]

33 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

The left: SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN 

 

The Right: What about rights, employment, childcare etc

 

The Left: YOU'RE KILLING PEOPLE SCIENCE DENIER 

 

The Left again: *Massive hordes of people, riots and mass gatherings*
 

The Left one more time: See? Republicans opened too early now they’re killing people! 

Please stop with the projecting. It's basic and not particularly convincing.

Just who exactly 'on the left' are saying 'Republicans opened too early now they’re killing people'?  It certainly isn't anyone from the Democratic party so who exactly is it? 
Quotes from legitimate news sources will do please. 

[Tug]

2 hours ago, moe666 said:

Tell that to the 150,000 who have died needlessly because the President refused to do his job and lead. Too much time on the T.V. watching Fox and friends and not enough time spent on actually putting people in positions they were qualified to lead. Too much time spent on telling the world what a great job I have done but at the end of the day the job that was done was a failure. Too much time spent blaming other instead of taking the bull by the horns and getting things done. The worse response to covid by any country in the world, considering the resources and money the US has to confront this virus head on. But no it would just go away like a miracle. Poof 150,00 dead in what 7 months. 

I agree with you I’m sure there are people in the administration that are capable of dealing with the crisis the problem is trump.if you do something that he doesn’t like or makes him feel or look bad or on a whim you your career are ruined the problem is trump.why does Dr. Fauci even have to address or get dragged into some ploy to attack Americans for expressing their 1th amendment rights?if trump was a president he would allow qualified professionals deal with covid and stop exacerbating the cause of the protests it’s unproductive to try and drag Dr. Fauci into that rabbit hole