Two new Covid-19 cases in state quarantine

[Xaos 1,397]

He tested positive together with oranges and bananas

[hotchilli 17,501]

3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

According to the CCSA, one is a Serbian footballer, arriving on a chartered flight from Serbia which landed at Buri Ram airport on July 19th.

I guess footballers are a high priority case?

[phetphet 1,635]

Why would they allow entry for a Serb and a Finlander? I thought international inward travel for foreigners was not allowed.

[RichardColeman 28,174]

43 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

You got a very special way to do your Maths. And obviously you don't care about pandemic caused deaths unless you get it in your own family, isn't it??? 

Very pathetic!

Pathetic ? Really ? 99.99992% of the worlds population are NOT dead. We have grown the population by 40,000,000 more during covid, odds of dying from this virus are currently 1 in 12,000 based on population of the world. Based on 20% economic destruction , about 400,000,000 will have lost their jobs and income throughout the world. And I'm pathetic for my view  ?  You think the people entering into homelessness and starvation care about the virus more than their situation and feeding their kids ? Grow up mate, people die, some before their time, it's life. If you're - or anyone else - is worried about it, stay home. I dare say you are in a position that you do not need work anymore and can live on a nice pension - that view in my opinion is pathetic. Millions don;t have that luxury. Let the world get on with it. Mask up, get on with it. 

[VBF 2,516]

13 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Pathetic ? Really ? 99.99992% of the worlds population are NOT dead. We have grown the population by 40,000,000 more during covid, odds of dying from this virus are currently 1 in 12,000 based on population of the world. Based on 20% economic destruction , about 400,000,000 will have lost their jobs and income throughout the world. And I'm pathetic for my view  ?  You think the people entering into homelessness and starvation care about the virus more than their situation and feeding their kids ? Grow up mate, people die, some before their time, it's life. If you're - or anyone else - is worried about it, stay home. I dare say you are in a position that you do not need work anymore and can live on a nice pension - that view in my opinion is pathetic. Millions don;t have that luxury. Let the world get on with it. Mask up, get on with it. 

Absolutely, and I'd add to that Charles Darwin's theory of "The survival of the fittest"

 

And....I am on the edge of being in an "at risk" group due to health issues, yet STILL I'd rather die than put up with all the ridiculous, over-blown restrictions! When faced with the likelihood of meeting up with crowds, I either mask up or stay home (to paraphrase @RichardColeman) 

OK I do have the luxury of being retired but if i want to go somewhere, I think it through and make an adult decision. I also inform friends of my stance before they visit me in my home, to allow them to make similar adult decisions.

The point is let people decide for themselves whether they are willing to accept risk in order to get on with their lives!

Edited August 2, 2020 by VBF

[tomazbodner 3,624]

16 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Pathetic ? Really ? 99.99992% of the worlds population are NOT dead. We have grown the population by 40,000,000 more during covid, odds of dying from this virus are currently 1 in 12,000 based on population of the world. Based on 20% economic destruction , about 400,000,000 will have lost their jobs and income throughout the world. And I'm pathetic for my view  ?  You think the people entering into homelessness and starvation care about the virus more than their situation and feeding their kids ? Grow up mate, people die, some before their time, it's life. If you're - or anyone else - is worried about it, stay home. I dare say you are in a position that you do not need work anymore and can live on a nice pension - that view in my opinion is pathetic. Millions don;t have that luxury. Let the world get on with it. Mask up, get on with it. 

If you're not dead, it doesn't mean you're not affected. Some who survived are in a very bad shape, health-wise, with effect on multiple organs that exposes them to far greater danger in the future than those unaffected by the virus.

 

When you're comparing this with those who lost their jobs, livelihoods, and economic disaster: They are still alive, right? So it's all fine then. We'll only count them once they die of hunger.

Edited August 2, 2020 by tomazbodner
removed comparison with plane crash survivors

[VBF 2,516]

4 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

If you're not dead, it doesn't mean you're not affected. Some who survived are in a very bad shape, health-wise, with effect on multiple organs that exposes them to far greater danger in the future than those unaffected by the virus.

 

It's like saying "not everyone dies in a plane crash." Having every bone broken, 2/3 of the skin burned and using a wheelchair for the rest of your life seems perfectly OK with you, I guess.

 

And if you're already comparing this with those who lost their jobs, livelihoods, and economic disaster: They are still alive, right? So it's all fine then. We'll only count them once they die of hunger.

I for one completely get that point but you still need to look at the numbers versus the extreme measures taken to "protect" us. Life is a game of chance, as long as you know what you're getting into, you deserve to retain the right to make adult decisions, whilst "socially distancing" to respect other people's rights.

Edited August 2, 2020 by VBF

[dabhand 2,643]

45 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Why would they allow entry for a Serb and a Finlander? I thought international inward travel for foreigners was not allowed.

Not so. One category of foreigner allowed are those with work permits with local Thai embassy travel approval. Possibly this was the category that allowed these two travelers to enter Thailand.

[RichardColeman 28,174]

8 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

When you're comparing this with those who lost their jobs, livelihoods, and economic disaster: They are still alive, right? So it's all fine then. We'll only count them once they die of hunger.

About 36,000,000 die every year from starvation, I imagine that will grow with the infrastructure going due to shutdown madness - for arguments sake , call it 40 million. So basically 38,000,000 people more people will die of starvation this year more than covid allowing for 2 million deaths.

 

Covid will not kill half as many as it causes to suffer starvation and eventual death

[tomazbodner 3,624]

2 minutes ago, VBF said:

I for one completely get that point but you still need to look at the numbers versus the extreme measures taken to "protect" us. Life is a game of chance, as long as you know what you're getting into, you deserve to retain the right to make adult decisions, whilet "socially distancing" to respect other people's rights.

I fully agree that response has been over the top in many places.

 

I wanted to point out that only counting numbers of dead, which can anyway be twisted one way or another that suits current agenda, ignores other effects of the virus, which seem to be completely overlooked. Many to most of survivors with symptoms have serious organ damage that would take months to years to recover, or never fully recover, especially on kidneys, liver, heart and brains/nervous system. Most cases where infection moved to lungs have severe blood clots in most of organs (possibly the cause of organ damage). These are not small problems. They can kill people through stroke/heart attack/kidney failure/liver cirrhosis. As such number of dead doesn't give the accurate picture by any means.

 

On how governments acted... we know some things about virus. We know some things now we didn't know 6 months back. Only time will tell what was good or bad action to take, all things considered.

[Bender Rodriguez 3,053]

please someone tell me

 

they test you POSITIVE and are brought to a hospital

 

but you have no fever, are not sick .... so what exactly do they do ?

 

or give

 

as there is NO VACCINE, and pretty sure a VACCINE does not work when you already POSITIVE, right ?

 

 

[RichardColeman 28,174]

4 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

please someone tell me they test you POSITIVE and are brought to a hospital 

but you have no fever, are not sick .... so what exactly do they do ? or give as there is NO VACCINE, and pretty sure a VACCINE does not work when you already POSITIVE, right ?

 

 

Never heard of a person being brought to hospital for not being sick or fevered with covid as opposed to just isolating themselves for 14 days after positive test

[Dumbastheycome 5,701]

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

Why would they allow entry for a Serb and a Finlander? I thought international inward travel for foreigners was not allowed.

Both will have work permits. The Serb will probably be contract playing as a professional  for Buriram United ( Or would be if he wasn't  sick). The  Finn likely to be a Civil Engineer.

[Letseng 827]

21 hours ago, Tchooptip said:

What is this Covid 19 thing? it's new?
I have never heard of it anywhere, neither in the press, nor on TV, nor on the internet. 

Cave dweller?

[Letseng 827]

43 minutes ago, VBF said:

Absolutely, and I'd add to that Charles Darwin's theory of "The survival of the fittest"

 

And....I am on the edge of being in an "at risk" group due to health issues, yet STILL I'd rather die than put up with all the ridiculous, over-blown restrictions! When faced with the likelihood of meeting up with crowds, I either mask up or stay home (to paraphrase @RichardColeman) 

OK I do have the luxury of being retired but if i want to go somewhere, I think it through and make an adult decision. I also inform friends of my stance before they visit me in my home, to allow them to make similar adult decisions.

The point is let people decide for themselves whether they are willing to accept risk in order to get on with their lives!

The risk you take may have consequences for others