khunPer Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Koh Samui News Update (site in Thai language) writes that Raja Ferry #4, loaded with trucks bringing garbage out from Koh Samui, crew and 15 drivers, has an accident (capsized?) August 1st at 10.20 pm (22:20), 10 people should have been rescued according to a posted message about 11:10. Quote Boat incident at the four islands and five islands Checking with news sources For clarity 22.20 hrs. 01/08/63 Due to the ferry crash Racha 4 boat carrying garbage from Koh Samui, crashes around the Fourth Island, Haa Crew with 15 drivers (Tanker, 10-wheel trailer, 3 vehicles, 2 pickup trucks) Assistance - Samui water police boat is out to help. In Google translation Quote เหตุการณ์ เรือ บริเวณเกาะสี่เกาะห้า กำลังเช็คกับแหล่งข่าว เพื่อความชัดเจนแน่ชัด 22.20 น. 01/08/63 เหตุ เรือเฟอร์รี่ล่ม เรือราชา 4 ขนขยะออกจากเกาะสมุย ล่มบริเวณ เกาะสี่เกาะห้า ลูกเรือ พร้อม พนักงานขับรถ 15 คน (เรือบรรทุกรถพ่วง10 ล้อ จำนวน 3 คัน รถกระบะ 2 คัน) การให้ความช่วยเหลือ -- เรือตำรวจน้ำสมุยออกทำการช่วยเหลือ Original post in Thai. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Some photos shared, but without any comments... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Quote 22.00 hrs. On 1 August 2020, the Racha 4 ferry boat incident with the crew departed from Koh Samui heading for Donsak Pier, which occurred at the island of Koh Ha Koh Si (approximately 5 kilometers from the Koh Samui ferry pier Currently, the governor of Surat Thani Province Command incident assistance At Koh Samui ferry terminal With a sheriff Ko Samui Municipality Ko Samui Police Station Ko Samui Marine Police Marine Pier Ko Samui To help 23.50 9 crew members were assisted by the Marine Police and the ALS team (green code) bringing the victims. Depart from Koh Samui Station Pier Send to Samui hospital List of victims of the ferry accident (Racha 4) Admitted to Koh Samui Hospital 1 Mr. Jumnin Buriamas (Tonkol) 2 Mr. Sutthirak Muang-in (Mechanic Motors) 3 Mr. Charoen Phongphancharoen (Mechanic of Motor Vehicles) 4 Mr. Chaikitkit Chimplee (Tarasi) 5 Mr. Kriengsak Chaiyawong (Tarasi) 6 Mr. Anuphon Chankasem (Tarasi) 7 Mr Wirot Jae Huang (Tarasi) 8 Mr. Sarayut To Muangklang (10 wheel driver) 9 Mr Boonchuay Phromthong (10 wheel driver) Searching 1 Mr. Tevin Surat (Mr Rua) 2 Mr. Sirawut Thongboonyang (Tonkol) 3 Mr. Phacharathiprat (Tarasi) 4 Mr Tiwakorn Na Watchararit (Kulsi) 5 Mrs. Naphat Chanthan (Salesperson) 6 Mr. Chaichan Laosap (10 wheel driver) 7 Mr. Suwit Norasetworachai (Manager of the contractor company (pickup truck) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Wow. I hope that they are all OK. Terrible weather at the moment (strong winds/waves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandguy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Three 10 wheel trucks and two pick up trucks according to Thai source. Not a full ferry and not during regular hours. Seems odd. Perhaps medical waste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post limbos Posted August 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, islandguy said: Three 10 wheel trucks and two pick up trucks according to Thai source. Not a full ferry and not during regular hours. Seems odd. Perhaps medical waste? Raja has night boats scheduled to'from Samui. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandguy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Would make sense to have garbage scheduled at night. With a trash mountain growing ever upwards and lots of money to be made shipping it to the mainland, why would they have only three 10 wheel trucks on a car ferry that can hold more? That is why I suspect it to be some special category of waste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted August 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, islandguy said: Would make sense to have garbage scheduled at night. With a trash mountain growing ever upwards and lots of money to be made shipping it to the mainland, why would they have only three 10 wheel trucks on a car ferry that can hold more? That is why I suspect it to be some special category of waste. Maybe due to the dearth of tourists on the island, your 'trash mountain' isn't quite of Himalayan proportions and there's just not that much garbage that needs to be moved daily? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 THAILAND: Seven people went missing in the sea and nine others were safely rescued after a ferry was hit by a strong storm and capsized after leaving Koh Samui island, ... was loaded with garbage, three 10-wheel lorries and a pick-up truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandguy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, NanLaew said: Maybe due to the dearth of tourists on the island, your 'trash mountain' isn't quite of Himalayan proportions and there's just not that much garbage that needs to be moved daily? The trash mountain as of Jan 2020 wasn’t going to change much . 3 ten wheel trucks a day wouldn’t slow down this month’s garbage, much less the accumulation from when incinerator stopped functioning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 These boat captains aren't like airplane captains who know how to really mange their cargo. Scary to say the least especially with the weather changing all the time now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEE TEE Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 10 hours ago, khunPer said: I hope they find the missing alive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gulfsailor Posted August 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, PEE TEE said: I hope they find the missing alive I just heard two of the missing were found alive on Koh Tan, one of the nearby five islands. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfsailor Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gulfsailor said: I just heard two of the missing were found alive on Koh Tan, one of the nearby five islands. Latest sad update from Facebook; the bodies of the captain and the girl operating the onboard shop have been found near a small island. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Gulfsailor said: I just heard two of the missing were found alive on Koh Tan, one of the nearby five islands. They did very well to find a small island at night whilst fighting big waves. Well done those folk. Sad about the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Another thread quotes 'The ferry was carrying a 10 wheel trailer, 3 garbage trucks and two pick up trucks.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, islandguy said: The trash mountain as of Jan 2020 wasn’t going to change much . 3 ten wheel trucks a day wouldn’t slow down this month’s garbage, much less the accumulation from when incinerator stopped functioning. So 100% less island tourists means no difference in daily island waste? I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy 4680 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I think people are missing the main point, Storm warnings were issued, and yet the ferry put to sea, Is it the owners responsibility, or the captains decision, on whether to sail or not ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted August 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said: I think people are missing the main point, Storm warnings were issued, and yet the ferry put to sea, Is it the owners responsibility, or the captains decision, on whether to sail or not ???? always the Captain, same as for an aircraft. But commercial pressures can sometimes get in the way of good, safe, sensible decision making. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Terrible news during an already difficult time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 A few images from Google of Raja 4 (faster than checking my own picture folders)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 i assume this was the standard raja boat they use in the normal daytime sailings with regular passengers? glad it wasn't one of them because they usually have hundreds of vehicles and passengers and the wind this a.m. was pretty crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 Video from inside "Raja 4" ferry at the time of the incident (I've set UTL-time to start of Raja ferry report, t=138)... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lom Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 4 hours ago, islandguy said: The trash mountain as of Jan 2020 wasn’t going to change much . 3 ten wheel trucks a day wouldn’t slow down this month’s garbage, much less the accumulation from when incinerator stopped functioning. Excuse me sir but I think there is a flaw in your logic or should I call it your assumption. Where in the reports does it say that there is only 3 ten wheel trucks per day transporting garbage? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandguy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 hours ago, NanLaew said: So 100% less island tourists means no difference in daily island waste? I see. You clearly have no idea of the history and volume of Samui’s trash problem, and don’t see. The lives lost in this sad incident are the story, trash mountain is another story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandguy Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, lom said: Excuse me sir but I think there is a flaw in your logic or should I call it your assumption. Where in the reports does it say that there is only 3 ten wheel trucks per day transporting garbage? It has been reported that this vessel only had three trucks full of garbage and a pickup truck as cargo. That surprised me because there are literally thousands of trucks full of trash at the Samui landfill. While you are correct that many more than 3 trucks a day might be currently hauled away by ferry, and that I did not consider that possibility, trash mountain is very likely still more Matterhorn than molehill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimfan Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) Sadly it was probably an accident waiting to happen with the state of the Raja ferry fleet. Have used boats to Samui many times but would never get on a Raja ferry even if you paid me. Edited August 2, 2020 by Swimfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 URGENT: All ferries between the islands Phangan, Samui, and Tao, and to the mainland have been stopped from today, August 2nd for three days, including till August 4th, by decree from the Governor of Surat Thani. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Gulfsailor said: I just heard two of the missing were found alive on Koh Tan, one of the nearby five islands. If they were found on Koh Taen that ferry was on the way to khanom or really of course. Koh Taen is fairly big island 20 min south of Samui. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) In the above video why do they call it a "furry" boat ? Edited August 2, 2020 by johng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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