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Just now, PEE TEE said:

I did not know the ferries ran after 7pm. sad news i wonder how good the inspections for safety are on the  Raja company? 

 

This was not a passenger ferry! If you read the post, you would see the following line in bold text right under the photo:-

 

"Seven people are missing after a cargo ferry travelling from Koh Samui capsized on Saturday night."

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2 hours ago, PEE TEE said:

I did not know the ferries ran after 7pm. sad news i wonder how good the inspections for safety are on the  Raja company? 

 

It's a cargo ferry with trucks.

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Just now, off road pat said:

Hm,...Lots of tourist buses from Bangkok stop at Don Sak to unload passengers, some buses get on the ferry and others pick up passengers from the ferry. I must have taken the ferry over a hundred times go and back to Samui !

Your point being?

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58 minutes ago, Odisan said:

"It wasn’t immediately exactly how many people were on board."

No. Words.

It was however known public in details with all names in about one hour from the first news appeared, the news story is based on the fist initial report only. For a full name list see in other posts the linked story.

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1 hour ago, khunkarl said:

Without classification the ship owners can't get any certificates, which they need to legally operate their vessels. How that works here in Thailand is for me unknow

I don't believe how naive this comment is - you realise this is THAILAND we are talking about???

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36 minutes ago, off road pat said:

Hm,...Lots of tourist buses from Bangkok stop at Don Sak to unload passengers, some buses get on the ferry and others pick up passengers from the ferry. I must have taken the ferry over a hundred times go and back to Samui !

Your point being??

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1 hour ago, khunkarl said:

Without doubt as it rolled over just 2 nautical miles from port.. A port it should never have left.

No! Extremely unlikely.

 

although Raja 4 if that was the boat is quite small a fewwtrucks would not overload it. 

What invariably happens is water gets onto te cargo deck - tis this and the load slurps around th boat is flipped. This can be incredibly quick too.

 

As for setting off, rthat is a different matter - virtually EVERY Ro-RO ferry in Thailand is suitable to sail on only flat seas - any strong swell or chop is potentially lethal for these vessels.

My guess is that because it was a "trade only" crossing the skipper or someone decided to push the envelope a little as there were no tourists to get frightened or sick.

 

Edited by Airbagwill

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4 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Or how about the captain of the boat ignored the bad conditions and still went ahead ?  

Probably he was under pressure by the ship owners however taking the gamble with the weather makes him a captain with poor judgement. And now he will have to take the full responsibility for what has happened. If he had refused to leave port the worst that could have happened was him being sacked. Sad story and loss of lives that should not have happened. 😭

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Seems the lessons to be learned from previous Ferry Health and Safety failures.... Have not been learned.

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A few images from Google of Raja 4 (faster than checking my own picture folders)...

 

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RAJA4sank.jpg

 

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Video from inside "Raja 4" ferry at the time of the incident (I've set UTL-time to start of Raja ferry report, t=138)...

 

 

 

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Place reopens exactly where it left off. A pathetic, phony joke which has all the "answers" (not!) for reopening, but not one answer when it comes to basic day-to-day, real life events (like law and transportation)...which take more lives than any virus ever will. :post-4641-1156693976:

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Going to say badly loaded and rolled . Did see a video this morning of people looking for survivors and of all the things it was on a ferry !! What’s the point of that ? Extremely slow and only benifit would be slight height advantage to look out, although all the people on it were sitting inside despite it not raining . I haven’t heard of any air search going on which would be obvious way to look but wife said they did find two people today alive on Koh tan .

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European health and safety can be a pain, it is often moaned about because bad things very rarely happen. Of course the health and safety legislation is the exact reason why bad things rarely happen however tedious it can sometimes feel. Thailand who have next to no enforcement of health and safety have accidents like this frequently from what i see, in this instance lives were needlessly lost. 

 

Don't expect any different from a country with the worst road fatalities in the world due to zero care and attention to training, testing and enforcement. Taking a ferry in Thailand is a genuine risk, relying on the following of some robust H&S rules for your safety is foolish. RIP to the poor deceased and i feel for their families for this avoidable loss of life.

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4 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Overloaded/badly balanced?

A bit like the government..

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