Thailand must welcome back Chinese tourists now says leading tourism chief

[pineapple01]

that blokes a Chin, he would say that.

[GeorgeCross]

4 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

what's stopping tat or some thai tourism companies/groups/organizations from developing their own package tours to compete with the chinese-owned/operated tours?  surely the government through tat could develop thailand as a hub of indigenous tourism.  it takes more than just buying commercial time on cgtn to promote amazing thailand.

the problem is not organizing competing tours its persuading CHINESE booking agents to send their clients on them - its going to take one hell of a bung to make the chinese favor the non-chinese in a business deal, all else being equal.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

A leading tourism chief has said that it is time Thailand opens up again to foreign tourists and Chinese tourists in particular. 

I said a long while back that the Chinese would be back ASAP. They definitely want the horde over us.

Once they build the railway IMO many farangs will be put off going anyway.

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I said a long while back that the Chinese would be back ASAP. They definitely want the horde over us.

Once they build the railway IMO many farangs will be put off going anyway.

True. I live here, but I wouldn't be tempted to visit as a tourist..........Thailand has sold its soul to the devil.

[Skallywag]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

But Surawat said it was time for the Thais to review how to ensure that more tourism revenue stays in the country and does not flow abroad. 

 

He was referring to companies - many of them Chinese owned or owned in Thailand through proxies - who are involved in organising group tours. 

 

Much of the money ends up abroad and not in the hands of Thais. 

Sort of contradicts the OP about how Thailand must let the Chinese tourists back. LOL

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Skallywag said:

Sort of contradicts the OP about how Thailand must let the Chinese tourists back. LOL

They will never keep the money in Thailand......the Chinese are far too savvy for the Thais.

[CNXexpat]

All the people from Pattaya: "Nooooo, don´t let them come back, they spend no money and the buses block the roads".

All people from northern Thailand: "Yes, please let them in. They spend a lot of money at local businesses and mostly come as individual travelers."

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said:

I posted this in another thread, but i think it is relevant to this discussion as well. BTW, a better statement from the tourism guy is to let long-term people in rather than a country-specific group.

Interesting post but I gave up half way. Less is sometimes more.

 

1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said:

History is replete with examples of people hiding behind walls for protection, but it rarely ever works (especially against something the size of a virus); see the 'Maginot Line', the Great Wall of China, the Berlin Wall, and more.

To be pedantic.

 

The two examples of protecting walls you gave actually worked. The Germans had to go around the Maginot- had they completed it the Germans likely would not have even tried. Had they not had the Maginot it would not have stopped Hitler, who had the world's best military to take revenge against France for the humiliation of the carriage and the following events.

The Great Wall of China worked for a very long time but times change,

 

The Berlin wall wasn't to protect from the outside, it was a prison wall.

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, madmitch said:

Totally disagree with you.

 

Foreign tourism is necessary to boost the economy. What's tthe point if most of the money is going elsewhere?

Well at least some of the money ends up in Thai pockets; hotels and restaurants etc, and keeps some Thais in employment.

 

But surely the 14 days quarantine cannot be changed at this point. Even more so given the recent surveys indicating 90% of Thais want foreigners kept out or at least quarantined for 14 days. 

 

Hopefully there will be more news soon about authorization/distribution of vaccines across the world.

 

When this does happen I just hope all countries use totally massive resources to produce the serum and get the inoculations done. 

 

 

[papa al]

48 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

China would be a great location!

China is flooded.

It's getting worse.

Except the NE area, which is drought.

Expect the price of rice to go up

bigly.

 

[phetchy]

No figures to back it up, but intuition suggests that whichever part of the country you call home, the more prosperous traders (be it booze, gold, or whatever) are of Chinese descent.  An assumption accepted as normal by all here, as any indigenous Thai will tell you.   

[papa al]

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

When this does happen I just hope all countries use totally massive resources to produce the serum and get the inoculations done. 

 

You realise vaccines prolly won't work for beans.?

Maybe 50%.

Maybe 30%.

[RichardColeman]

Maybe he should look at the history of the decimation of Thai tourism and that 60-75% of all Thai tourism woes in the past have been caused BY China and their pandemics !

[bluesofa]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand must welcome back Chinese tourists now says leading tourism chief

Has he just returned from a visit to the same dentist Boss uses, and has not yet come down to earth?

[PatOngo]

8 minutes ago, papa al said:

China is flooded.

It's getting worse.

Awwww gee! Could it be karma?

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said:

a better statement from the tourism guy is to let long-term people in rather than a country-specific group.

Why should a "tourism guy" talk about other groups than tourists and tourism?

Edited August 3, 2020 by Matzzon

[sammieuk1]

What is a leading tourism chief even doing here there is none ????

[ThailandRyan]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

This needs to be addressed, he said at the seminar, particularly in the booking of accommodation.

So your Government needs to ensure those zero dollar tours and Thai nominee businesses are shut down to ensure the money stays in Thailand.  Better yet why have them come into the country if you know that there are problems as such....

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Much of the money ends up abroad and not in the hands of Thais.

The article is nothing but negative in regards to true foreign tourism and as stated below its all about there cozy friendship with China.  But they have the above listed problems........so it is a no go with them in my purview unless the money goes into the pockets of those that need it and not the governments.

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that if Thailand opened up its airspace the Chinese would come in good numbers. There was no need for a high level of marketing. They know very well about Thailand and would flood back in.

 

[Matzzon]

55 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

What he meant is that the Chinese toursists are coming to Thailand and using companies (tours and accommodation) owned by foreign proxies from which the money is being sent abroad i.e. back to Chinese bosses. Therefore the money doesn't stay in Thailand although they are employing some Thai staff.

So, you are trying to say that Thailand do not win economically from Chinese tourists? Why in the world would they push so much for it then?

Nevermind, I let you continue believe you have better knowledge than the ones with the real numbers. 

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, Eindhoven said:

 

Nope.

 

 

I just copied my comment before. Much better

Nevermind, I let you continue believe you have better knowledge than the ones with the real numbers.

[Cake Monster]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

He was referring to companies - many of them Chinese owned or owned in Thailand through proxies - who are involved in organising group tours. 

 

Much of the money ends up abroad and not in the hands of Thais. 

 

This needs to be addressed, he said at the seminar, particularly in the booking of accommodation. 

Says everything really, dont it.

Economical Rape of a Country.

 

[bluesofa]

37 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

46 minutes ago, papa al said:

China is flooded.

It's getting worse.

Awwww gee! Could it be karma?

I don't think the sea is rough at all.

 

[scorecard]

45 minutes ago, papa al said:

You realise vaccines prolly won't work for beans.?

Maybe 50%.

Maybe 30%.

Unethical my friend. Why didn't you quote my complete post?

[andy72]

For many they better hope that this is not the start of the proxy investigation;

More Western Foreigner than Chinese have proxies that legal illegal loophole.

this would be the last part of the clear out Thailand started pre covid.

Just about all proxies are tourism related bars guesthouse hotel and it might be easier to investigate these during covid times 
who is open who is the owner

 

The Chinese Big Proxies will be legal so hes talking <deleted> the sheer numbers that involved was for a singular market / marketed and sold in China 
Those T's will be crossed and the I's dotted its the small time westerner that should be worried.

Currently China is not letting anyone in so what makes him think China is going to let its citizens go abroad and come back sans quarantine.

 

This is just the grovelling statement from a representative of a certain official body who see their high speed rail link to Kunming being delayed and maybe costing them more than the original arm and a leg.

Plus with half a million in lock down in Beijing its hardly fitting to allow them to come in.

More about  politics and the associated links and  less about tourism than the story says

[grumpy 4680]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

not let cash seep out of the country.

         He could be referring to Wealthy Thais taking their money out due to the high baht.

[bobbin]

57 minutes ago, papa al said:

You realise vaccines prolly won't work for beans.?

Maybe 50%.

Maybe 30%.

Is Papa an anti-vaxxer? Science and technology is good for motorcycles but bad for people?

 

I'm suspicious from where you pulled the 30-50% figure.. everything I have heard and read says 90%+ in terms of efficacy before a vaccine gets the go-ahead.

[holy cow cm]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

China is in trouble," he said. "No one wants Chinese tourists but we (in Thailand) should welcome them back. We have always had a special relationship with the Chinese". 

And why should anyone care about the Chinese and it's government who made the virus and probably released it on purpose to gain economic control and encroach on territories they think will not have hard resistance to? This guy need to blow it out his brown little corn hole and be quiet.

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

The pandemic has left the Chinese largely friendless around the world and it's time that Thailand's "special relationship" with the Chinese was resumed.

Yes and they need to be totally alienated and boxed in to staying in their onw country. 

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Surawat said it was time for those in tourism areas to be asked their opinions about reopening the country.

Suratwat. How do these twits even get jobs and a microphone?

[mr mr]

2 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

They want best of both worlds. Tourist money is welcome but not the tourists themselves. A tricky one. 

 same old same old then.

[AlfHuy]

It's not going to happen.

If the only ones coming in are the Chinese. If Covid numbers increase, due to tourists, who would they blame?

Farangs? No, because they aren't allowed in.

 

50k spent on average5555

yes, eat all you can and behave like a ..... 

[swampdonkey]

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

If and when the Chinese do come flooding back, will they be required to undergo a 14 day quarantine at their own expense?

 

No, I didn't think so.

China has plenty of  real flooding at the moment most people in China will be effected by it in some way. They may not be the tourist saviour of Thailand for a while