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Dear Visa experts

If LOS boarders remain closed I think I'll need to follow this route.

 

Unless  there any other options other than elite/retirement? I've no plans to become a monk, journalist or guardian of Thai kids etc, Non O married seems only simple affordable option within LOS ?

I would be quite happy to pay for an ED visa but cannot actually attend regularly in person due to location and health, I cannot imagine real Ed visas for online ?

 

After asking Local Office requires 3 months seasoning which I can do now.

I'd prefer to get the visa issued in November when I am always in Thailand, it is also when my present ME non O would expire , if borders re-open I could do a bounce and gain another 90 days but November is fine too.

 

QUESTIONS

1 Does money need to remain in same account / bank after application is so how long? Once visa in passport am I free to move into our joint account as I seldom leave house and trust my wife to handle all the bills etc.

2 Will renewal date be anniversary of application or date granted ?

3 Is it still necessary to show source of funds as my Bank Statements don't show ?

My embassy no longer does income letter.

4 Is a Bangkok Bank or Kasikorn deposit account acceptable, both these accounts allow instant access (with a loss of minimal interest as a penalty).

 

I apologise if this has all been asked before but so many different interpretations over the years its hard to keep track.Once funds allow I think elite possibly for me but my wife correctly sees it as poor value while I am still able to conduct my own affairs albeit increasingly slowly.

 

Thank you in anticipation and stay safe, while we all moan about our hosts from time to time the local response to Covid confirms my choice to stay, Keep safe everyone.

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4 minutes ago, RubbaJohnny said:

QUESTIONS

1 Does money need to remain in same account / bank after application is so how long? Once visa in passport am I free to move into our joint account as I seldom leave house and trust my wife to handle all the bills etc.

2 Will renewal date be anniversary of application or date granted ?

3 Is it still necessary to show source of funds as my Bank Statements don't show ?

My embassy no longer does income letter.

4 Is a Bangkok Bank or Kasikorn deposit account acceptable, both these accounts allow instant access (with a loss of minimal interest as a penalty).

1/ 2 months before and some offices like it to stay in during the 'under consideration' period

2/ yes, the only way to change would be if your passport is due to expire within a year of application, they will date the extension to the expiry date of the passport

3/ no need

4/ i would think so

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Posted (edited)

Thanks Steve 

for a prompt and helpful reply

 

As to my question 2 

2 Will renewal date be anniversary of application or date granted ?

Can you or anyone with hands on experience please clarify for me?

 

is renewal date , the date of the extension, a friend was given only 11 months, i.e they dated his renewal 12 months from his date of application which was only 11 months from the date of issuance..

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44 minutes ago, RubbaJohnny said:

As to my question 2 

2 Will renewal date be anniversary of application or date granted ?

Can you or anyone with hands on experience please clarify for me?

 

is renewal date , the date of the extension, a friend was given only 11 months, i.e they dated his renewal 12 months from his date of application which was only 11 months from the date of issuance..

Normally a extension will start from the end of your current permit to stay date which would be the end of your 90 day entry. For the next extension it would start when you current extension ends.

Under the amnesty it hard to predict when they will start one since it may very from office to office. It should start from the day you apply while on the "automatic extension" under the amnesty. 

Was you friend by chance changing the reason for his extension from retirement to marriage or vice versa. When that is done the extension starts from the day you apply. They consider the new application as canceling the current extension.

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Thanks as ever Joe yes he married so that explains that.

I guess the only way to find is from the horse's mouth.

Think I'll pop in try get a 60 day at end of August plus offer a 9 day if they want it.

Or should I wait until September and risk a fine for no 90 day but not "waste " my only bite at a 60 day in case they extend teh amnesty yet again?

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1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

Normally a extension will start from the end of your current permit to stay date which would be the end of your 90 day entry. For the next extension it would start when you current extension ends.

Under the amnesty it hard to predict when they will start one since it may very from office to office. It should start from the day you apply while on the "automatic extension" under the amnesty. 

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Hi UJ, fully agree with what you wrote.

But if IO lets extensions start from the date of application, most applicants will wait till the end of the Amnesty to apply, resulting in overcrowded IOs.  Hence I was pleasantly surprised with the Infographic Announcement that extensions applied for during the Amnesty would start from 27 September.  That makes sense.

But now it seems that it depends on WHAT kind of extension the applicant applies for whether it will be accepted by his IO and if so, whether it will start from date of application or from Sept 27.

Also when applying for a continuation of your 1-year extension of stay during the Amnesty, it seems that some IOs will back-date the application (which also makes sense).

But once again there seems to be no consistency in how different IOs are handling this.

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Posted (edited)

Hi,

 

I'm in similar situation. Have multientry Non-O based on marriage. Got 60 days extension earlier which expires next week so going to apply one year extension this week.

 

Does anyone know if I should apply at Chaengwattana or the new satellite office?

 

Thanks.

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58 minutes ago, Mattijok said:

Does anyone know if I should apply at Chaengwattana or the new satellite office?

Chaeng Wattana

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44 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Chaeng Wattana

Excellent, thanks!

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As I understand your post, it is concerns the poster RubbaJohnny. Are you legally married in Thailand? Did you go through the process of getting married at an Amphur and have both  rr2 and rr3 documents? If so, the marriage extension should be a straightforward process. The IO has a list of required documents. The IO at Jomtien was nice enought to check off the required documents I needed for my extension. Be sure to have 2 copies and sign every page. paste the photos to a sheets of paper and signed those as well. After I submitted the application, the IO came 2 days later for the home visit. They took several pictures with my wife, myself and the witness in front of our condo building and one of us standing in front of our mailbox in the lobby. They never physically looked at the inside of our condo. It took 15 minutes and they left.

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I have a ME O marriage visa that expires in November. Just curious why anyone has already taken a 60-day extension while there has been an amnesty in place. Personally, I would have waited until the amnesty has ended, and only then get one if the borders are still closed. And I can't imagine the amnesty ending if the borders are still closed. Therefore, I don't see the need for one at all.

 

Everyone has their own idea of how they want to tackle the current situation, but using up their only allowed once a year 60-day extension allowance when it isn't necessary seems odd to me.

 

Also, the OP is asking about a marriage visa, but talking about having money in the bank for an extension. That isn't necessary, unless it is for a yearly and he has given no indication that is what he wants.

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17 hours ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Thanks as ever Joe yes he married so that explains that.

I guess the only way to find is from the horse's mouth.

Think I'll pop in try get a 60 day at end of August plus offer a 9 day if they want it.

Or should I wait until September and risk a fine for no 90 day but not "waste " my only bite at a 60 day in case they extend teh amnesty yet again?

If you go for a joint account instead of in your name only, it won't work when you do the next 1 year extension and you have to show 400k again 2 months prior to the application. 

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2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I have a ME O marriage visa that expires in November. Just curious why anyone has already taken a 60-day extension while there has been an amnesty in place. Personally, I would have waited until the amnesty has ended, and only then get one if the borders are still closed. And I can't imagine the amnesty ending if the borders are still closed. Therefore, I don't see the need for one at all.

 

Everyone has their own idea of how they want to tackle the current situation, but using up their only allowed once a year 60-day extension allowance when it isn't necessary seems odd to me.

 

Also, the OP is asking about a marriage visa, but talking about having money in the bank for an extension. That isn't necessary, unless it is for a yearly and he has given no indication that is what he wants.

OP also asked about renewal dates, so I guess he means annual extensions. 

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2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I have a ME O marriage visa that expires in November. Just curious why anyone has already taken a 60-day extension while there has been an amnesty in place. Personally, I would have waited until the amnesty has ended, and only then get one if the borders are still closed. And I can't imagine the amnesty ending if the borders are still closed. Therefore, I don't see the need for one at all.

 

Everyone has their own idea of how they want to tackle the current situation, but using up their only allowed once a year 60-day extension allowance when it isn't necessary seems odd to me.

 

Also, the OP is asking about a marriage visa, but talking about having money in the bank for an extension. That isn't necessary, unless it is for a yearly and he has given no indication that is what he wants.

There were alot of recommendations on diffrent visa groups that the 60 days wasnt a option if your entry stamp expired and that the first amnesty probally was the last one.  So alot of people went and did their 60 days before their visa expired which in hindsight was the wrong decision/useless unless they followed it up with a 1 extension at that time. 

 

I did my 60 days last month which i regret now because all it did was waste my time and money.  I'm about to do my 1 year extension in a few weeks and my local immigration office now say that the 60 days isnt necessary and it's fine to do a 1 year extension with a expired non-o entry. 

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5 minutes ago, Okis said:

There were alot of recommendations on diffrent visa groups that the 60 days wasnt a option if your entry stamp expired and that the first amnesty probally was the last one.  So alot of people went and did their 60 days before their visa expired which in hindsight was the wrong decision/useless unless they followed it up with a 1 extension at that time. 

 

I did my 60 days last month which i regret now because all it did was waste my time and money.  I'm about to do my 1 year extension in a few weeks and my local immigration office now say that the 60 days isnt necessary and it's fine to do a 1 year extension with a expired non-o entry. 

Yep, used my 60 days extension on June as the "news" was that its not possible to extend if you let your stamp to expire and go on amnesty. 

 

No harm done, been on valid stamp all the time and do my 1 year extension this week before expiry of that 60 days. No need to follow up any amnesty decisions and queu with thousand of others when the amnesty ends some point. 

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