thaibeachlovers Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 4:07 PM, 4MyEgo said: So the governments around the world should just say W-T-F, I think the majority of people have no problem adhering to the "draconean" ways we are or have been all locked up as sheep, see above post reply. Only as long as the majority have a job and the taxes don't go up too much to pay off the gigantic loans that people's grandchildren will be paying for. I'm not saying W_T_F; I'm saying Sweden got it right. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) On 8/5/2020 at 4:11 PM, 4MyEgo said: until they unlock the chains, we are in the same place we started out in the beginning. Never going to happen, IMO. They now know that they can do anything they like and the "people" will accept it, and in many cases willingly accept it. Makes me happy not to be around too much longer. Edited August 7, 2020 by thaibeachlovers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 5:53 PM, 4MyEgo said: Lockdowns appear to work, i.e. if you don't let them out too early as was the case here. They only work as long as the populace will accept them, or the people can be forced to comply. Eventually they have to end- permanent lockdown is impossible. Every time the population that has no immunity is released it will start again, IMO, unless no one is allowed in from elsewhere. No border controls are 100% as proven in NZ. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: They only work as long as the populace will accept them, or the people can be forced to comply. Eventually they have to end- permanent lockdown is impossible. Every time the population that has no immunity is released it will start again, IMO, unless no one is allowed in from elsewhere. No border controls are 100% as proven in NZ. Just trying to think where they have worked as the pandemic isn't over yet so it appears to be to early to say if they have worked as they appear to just increase the unnecessary suffering of the populace.It appears to be a tragic experiment or even a gamble that doesn't appear to be paying off.As you mention the consequences will be bourn for a long time to come.That is the price payed for trusting those elected who selected which expert advice to heed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 An unsubstantiated troll post has been removed. Edit: Also a troll post containing profanity. -- Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 7:23 AM, thaibeachlovers said: They only work as long as the populace will accept them, or the people can be forced to comply. Eventually they have to end- permanent lockdown is impossible. Every time the population that has no immunity is released it will start again, IMO, unless no one is allowed in from elsewhere. No border controls are 100% as proven in NZ. Return of Virus After 102 Days Threatens New Zealand’s Recovery https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/return-virus-102-days-threatens-223401856.html Panic buying breaks out in New Zealand after announcing 2nd lockdown https://www.yahoo.com/news/panic-buying-breaks-zealand-announcing-200000039.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 8:23 AM, DoctorG said: It is a worldwide conspiracy to rid the world of the unproductive elderly. ???? So it only affects the elderly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammed Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 8:46 AM, 4MyEgo said: Businesses affected, people affected, that's what happens in a pandemic situation no, thats what happens when politicians try to be productive, the only thing they accomplished is ruining the economy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammed Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said: So it only affects the elderly ? yes, most younger people show little or no effect at all, and deaths are nearly exclusive rights for very old retirees https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-sweden-by-age-groups/ Edited August 13, 2020 by scammed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, scammed said: yes, most younger people show little or no effect at all, and deaths are nearly exclusive rights for very old retirees Yes most elderly people die now but the younger ones will have a lifelong problem with blood cloths in most organs and will die as well in a few years. And they are passing on the virus now to the elderly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammed Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Meat Pie 47 said: Yes most elderly people die now but the younger ones will have a lifelong problem with blood cloths in most organs and will die as well in a few years. And they are passing on the virus now to the elderly. that is just your imagination taking you for a ride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, scammed said: that is just your imagination taking you for a ride Yes I am not a Trump supporter I listen to real doctors and scientists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 7:09 AM, thaibeachlovers said: Only as long as the majority have a job and the taxes don't go up too much to pay off the gigantic loans that people's grandchildren will be paying for. I'm not saying W_T_F; I'm saying Sweden got it right. GET THE SHOT OR GET OUT Schools and employers could ban people who refuse to get coronavirus vaccine, expert says https://www.the-sun.com/news/1304774/schools-employers-ban-people-who-refuse-coronavirus-vaccine/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tony125 said: GET THE SHOT OR GET OUT Schools and employers could ban people who refuse to get coronavirus vaccine, expert says https://www.the-sun.com/news/1304774/schools-employers-ban-people-who-refuse-coronavirus-vaccine/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly Refraise that the should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 2:03 AM, Tony125 said: You say even if a viable vaccine(s) is developed how to innoculate 8 billion people. You forget polio has been eradicated from the world as well as smallpox by vacs. Since this virus is easily spread and deadly the rich countries will make sure the poorer countries get it just to prevent thier countries(rich) from being infected. First article shows what has been erridicated worlwide 2nd those that have been irradicated in US and many 1st world countries and can be done away with more money around the world. 1. What diseases have vaccines eradicated? https://www.vox.com/2018/8/21/17588074/vaccines-diseases-wiped-out 2. Diseases You Almost Forgot About (Thanks to Vaccines) https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/diseases/forgot-14-diseases.html Did you know your child can get measles just by being in a room where a person with measles has been, even up to two hours after that person has left? Measles is very contagious I almost forgot about measles until I came down with it while I was in Phuket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said: Yes most elderly people die now but the younger ones will have a lifelong problem with blood cloths in most organs and will die as well in a few years. And they are passing on the virus now to the elderly. That's the first I have heard of anyone that is younger who gets it, has some kind of ongoing complications later in life. Can you provide a source or a link, just out of interest to read ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said: So it only affects the elderly ? LOL. It can affect everyone, just like flu, but it only kills, in the vast majority of cases, the elderly with health problems. For young people in a large number of cases the only reason they know they had the virus was because they had a blood test that showed they had antibodies to it. Such a lethal disease that many don't even know they have it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said: Yes most elderly people die now but the younger ones will have a lifelong problem with blood cloths in most organs and will die as well in a few years. And they are passing on the virus now to the elderly. Where is your proof that many young people will have problems in future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Tony125 said: GET THE SHOT OR GET OUT Schools and employers could ban people who refuse to get coronavirus vaccine, expert says https://www.the-sun.com/news/1304774/schools-employers-ban-people-who-refuse-coronavirus-vaccine/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly Could be right, if they ever produce a safe vaccine and have enough for all. Anyway, I'm retired so doesn't affect me and the law in NZ says they can't force me to have an injection of any medication. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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