Ministry now aims to roll out travel promotions for expats in Thailand

[sturdyd]

I'd be interested, but lets see some specifics. Hopefully before I die.

[WhyamIhere]

Oh, they finally acknowledged that 'maybe expats matter' (MEM) and we should be treated a bit more like citizens; however, if things ever return to some resemblance of normalcy, I'm sure the discrimination will prevail.

[lensta]

21 hours ago, tso310 said:

He must be including Laos, Kampucheans, ETs etc. 

According to figures in the 2019 Thailand Migration Report, there are just 150,707 expats residing in Thailand, of those 72,969 are retirees. Ah, just 1 or 2 short of 2 million. Anyway , they must really be desperate if they are going to offer travel packages to us dirty ai farang

[Eindhoven]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

 

Neither the TAT nor this heinous and toxic administration has ever done anything beneficial for ex-pats here. Ever. We are completely taken for granted, no matter how much we spend. Forgive my skepticism on this proposal. My guess is that it will be about as hard to access, as the 5,000 baht subsidy that 84% of Thais were turned down for. 

 

And if it is accessible, it will be something like Bangkok Airways resident card program. You jump through hoops to pay a fee for a card. Then, you get a discount on the highest price the airline charges for a sector. 

 

Immigration has all of our residence info. If they are serious, just send us cards and instructions on where they can be used. And if not, stop playing games and feeding us poor and inaccurate information constantly. I truly wish the ministries here were run by competent adults. 

 

This is part of the issue. Tourism Ministry needs cooperation from the other ministries. Other ministries are not keen on losing their cash cows, in order to benefit an unrelated ministry. Hence his appeal to the PM in order to convince the others that it is a good idea to drop their nasty two price schemes.

[Grumpy John]

In response to #157  I found the retort to be very funny!  Guests in the broadest sense of the word...I don't think so.  Unless of course you consider yourself an unwelcome guest....which maybe the case for some.  Visitor maybe a more apt description.  A visitor who is allowed to stay for 12 months at a time.  A long term visitor who is a person who has stayed 12 months at a time many times. Wouldn't it be nice to be a long term resident who only has to stay out of trouble to remain a long term resident and just needs to be registered in the wife's house book...and maybe GEt a card...pink coloured is OK. They make it hard to call Thailand home. 

Edited August 6, 2020 by Grumpy John
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[lensta]

7 minutes ago, WhyamIhere said:

Oh, they finally acknowledged that 'maybe expats matter' (MEM) and we should be treated a bit more like citizens; however, if things ever return to some resemblance of normalcy, I'm sure the discrimination will prevail.

No, they are desperate, they want your money. That's all.

[buanmeerugsaa]

Drop TM 30 and I’ll go Somewhere every week. 

[quake]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Looks like he is trying to squeeze the last little bit of watery finance out of the ex-pat sponge to me 

Thailand's internal tourism specials.

T.I.T's

 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2020 by quake

[CLW]

Are they now openly admitting that foreigners (tourists and expats) pay higher prices at hotels and restaurants than Thai nationals?

Why the need for special discounts then....

[umlungu2012]

4 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Nobody is stranded anywhere.  There's only people who ignored what was happening and were intentionally ignorant of the devastating consequences of Covid.

 

If you didn't know by the very first day this year there was a pandemic spreading that completely shut down Wuhan, China then you're currently experiencing the consequences of your lack of judgement and facts. ????

 

I read on New Year's Eve about the virus and said to my wife, this could spread to Thailand and many other places too.

 Dumbest post so far. So, what's next, Little Miss-Know-It-All?

[spidermike007]

57 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

This is part of the issue. Tourism Ministry needs cooperation from the other ministries. Other ministries are not keen on losing their cash cows, in order to benefit an unrelated ministry. Hence his appeal to the PM in order to convince the others that it is a good idea to drop their nasty two price schemes.

Yes Nasty. And racist, disrespectful, graceless, ignoble, dishonorable, ungrateful, undignified, non visionary, and mindless. 

[Chiang Mai Bill]

Reduced fees for entering National Parks and other areas are not going to make tourists come to Thailand!

 

• The cost of $100,000 covid medical insurance for 2-3 weeks' travel;
• the 2-week quarantine;
• the impossibility of getting a covid-free test result (that takes between 3-5+ days to obtain) which is dated no more than 72 hours of entering Thai Immigration;
• ''another'' covid-free paper before you can obtain a visa;
• and yet ''another'' piece of covid paper before booking a flight --

 

will deter many tourists from visiting the Kingdom for their holidays/vacations!

 

And until tourists start to return, many ''tourist attractions'' cannot afford to open!

 

These politicians have such a childish naivety it's amazing that the country has functioned for so long!  Surely, there must be some educated people who are aware of the basics of economy, tourism, and general running the country in the country?  A number must have been educated ''abroad''?

[Trevor Collins]

Type in "Malaysia my second home" into any search engine and see what another country is offering to ex-pats with a bit of money in the bank. They positively invite farangs to live and settle in their country, and can even own land and property.

Thailand, take a long, hard look...

Edited August 6, 2020 by Trevor Collins
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[off road pat]

23 hours ago, tso310 said:

He must be including Laos, Kampucheans, ETs etc. 

You think "Farang" expats, but there are a lot of other Nationalities and ethnics expats in Thailand.

Japanese, Chinese, Philippine, Indians, Africans, Cambodians, Laotians, Burmese (Mianmar),...etc..

[sambum]

So now we're flavor of the month? What a surprise! Maybe someone has realised that on average each ex pat "farang" will put half a million baht (500,000) a year into the Thai economy? Maybe Immigration might treat us with a bit more respect now when we apply for our extensions? 

Edited August 6, 2020 by sambum

[sambum]

24 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes Nasty. And racist, disrespectful, graceless, ignoble, dishonorable, ungrateful, undignified, non visionary, and mindless. 

To quote an excerpt from a "Fawlty Towers" sketch:- "Apart from that, everything OK then?"

 

 

[UTH001]

4 hours ago, DaveK68 said:

Because the Thai GOV are idiots.

And ThaiVisa is being paid by them to tow the line.  lol

Either that or they're being bullied into it.

More than likely, they're being paid.  

You say that you are in the US and not coming back. Why are you that interested in posting your dribble on this site?

 

[Snoopax]

Has long as the TM30 is not definitively and irrevocably scraped, I rather take my weekend in another country, but now with the COVID-19 scam, I'll just stay home.

Edited August 6, 2020 by Snoopax

[Nice Boyd]

TEll the hotels to stop charging TRIPLE

[SVC Porter]

59 minutes ago, Trevor Collins said:

Type in "Malaysia my second home" into any search engine and see what another country is offering to ex-pats with a bit of money in the bank. They positively invite farangs to live and settle in their country, and can even own land and property.

Thailand, take a long, hard look...

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2020/08/04/malaysia-my-second-home-programme-on-hold/

[MRToMRT]

Invite back those expats who are stranded abroad if you want to show some "kindness". We will do your quarantine.

 

 

 

 

[DPKANKAN]

5 hours ago, Grusa said:

They do not do so because it would cut down the paperwork. Jobs Money making opportunities for the monkeys boys and girls.

Not us legit ones!!!!????????????????

[Raphael54]

Great!!

 

If we can now also get some clarification about TM30 and TM28 then that would be even greater. 

Some requirement regarding TM30 was modified (now we need to report only the 1st time when we receive an Alien, including yourself, in our house).  But TM28 (any alien must report anytime when he stays a night in another province) is still in force as far as I know.   

[lootarzoon]

23 hours ago, Airalee said:

Exactly.  I suspect that there will be numerous hoops to jump through,  faulty, buggy websites to navigate, forms to be filled out in triplicate.  Trips to some ministry office in the middle of nowhere (extra taxi fares) and days worth of headaches all to save a few hundred dollars.  This would be a good time for them to learn the KISS method.  (keep it simple, stupid)

Why make things simple when making things extra complicated provide thousands of usefull government jobs to ease the country control !!! ?? Like in socialist France... 

[Airalee]

28 minutes ago, lootarzoon said:

Why make things simple when making things extra complicated provide thousands of usefull government jobs to ease the country control !!! ?? Like in socialist France... 

Give them a can of paint and a brush.  This whole country needs a paint job.  That would be more productive than shuffling piles of paper. ????

[jerolamo]

It's quite simple, stop talking badly about Europeans (at least, your prime minister), you know, those famous "dirty falang", and make the same prices for everyone and everywhere, with a law prohibiting quotes segregative, which will also allow you worldwide access to a slightly more declining level in terms of human rights.
Do not constantly take them for what they are not, you should know that since you elites of Thailand must come to us to have a high level of education, alas you forget to remember that when it rains , the electricity does not cut, there are no improvised garbage cans, (and there are definite reasons for this, it is not a favor of God), and as you have seen, everywhere in Europe there is only one price for everyone for the same service, we do not make any racial differences.
In addition, the mountain is freely accessible to walkers, but we have sports activities, qualified guides (I mean, really qualified and responsible who have followed long learning courses and very selective when it comes to potentially dangerous environments, not people who improvise mountain guides or sailors ...).
Only the attractions are paying (ie people work to make it a fun attraction, and there are standards of protection for the public, etc.). We also have Museums with guides (and since you also have a history, you should also have more Museums, temples are not museums, you also have artists? Can they express themselves? We don't hear them ... alas). All this would also help you to see another clientele of foreigners more keen to learn more about your culture and your traditions land ... inevitably, and so you can be sure that all the falang are not "dirty ".

 

Build on what already exists everywhere else in the world and which works, since your country is beautiful and the population, for its overwhelming majority in the countryside of the country, is filled with great people, not just smiling, but a real kindness and very resourceful. If tomorrow they have access to a school where we learn more things and where we have to provide an assessed work and with qualified teachers, they will be at least as efficient (if not more) than others. in the world, without a doubt. I have seen village chiefs that no longer exist, forge magnificent relationships between the inhabitants by creating common tasks in which it is good to participate for their reputation (I found that excellent), with economic management and truly picky and evolved human, with a strong and nurtured culture that deserves more Museums to tell the world about. Thailand is still one of those rare countries in the world where the human and respect is put forward in the culture.

And this, in the depths of the countryside. So it is possible for everything, and even for tourism.

Be careful, however, that it is these beautiful people, humble and respectful, who manage, and not a handful of petty thugs who organize themselves to mow down valuables or cash in the bags of these buses reserved for 'dirty falang " who are in holidays to nice island destinations... or charge TEN TIMES THE PRICE of an access (I mean" an access ", because there is only one line, behind which there is no service which does not justify the price and even less the increase, which is really an abuse.) All of this does not do your business for long and it is a safe bet that once the new Chinese have seen the same thing, they will in turn become the "dirty Chinese ". You know, it's a bit like when you buy these kinds of tools from China, you do it because it's cheap, but in the end, if you have to buy it x times because it doesn't work long or that you can't do much with it, with a little experience and above 100 IQ, you end up saving for n ' buy one-time durable and useful tools or materials rather than those crooks' stuff. It is the same for everything, the illusion is not a lasting thing (if people are not stupid, ok...).

 

For the rest, obviously, if your main activities are open-air brothels that use the country's misery to satisfy the world's addicts, perhaps by force do you think that in their respective countries, they are all like that? Surely you don't see all the others who are discreet and don't go to bitches, who don't get their ass out? The others too, mostly sober (and not rich, not to be confused), on whom you turn your back, and who have a family in Thailand ? What kind of selection is it ?

 

We have a saying that goes: "you don't catch flies with vinegar".

So there always comes a crucial moment, a hard point to survive, where everyone can choose to wonder about the fallout and the type of dating we want to have, of course, but also if there is not a relationship close between what we do and what we harvest in return.

So, seriously, what are you doing, right now ? And what is the real fixed plan for tomorrow ? It seems to change every week, if not every day... but need 3 weeks minimum for get an entry pass... seriously... i can also imagine the fly companies with that.

[sandyf]

6 hours ago, Airalee said:

I plan on spending 10-30 times that amount (Depends on how long I want to travel) and for that, I expect...no...I demand a simple and streamlined process.

It may come as a surprise, but it doesn't matter how much you plan to spend you will never be in a position to demand anything.

My wife and the family may only be able to do a little bit for the economy, but only the arrogant would try and belittle it. I often wonder why high spenders like you have time for this forum, air of superiority?

[jerolamo]

31 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Give them a can of paint and a brush.  This whole country needs a paint job.  That would be more productive than shuffling piles of paper. ????

Exactly what i said my brother in law (who is Thai) who had problem to get money from work. Asked me 10 000 THB for a new idea he had... i tell him i want to know what he want to do. The idea was not credible and he will loose the money at 80% sure.

 

And then... i told him to trust me, because if i give him money (and not borrow) he should try with this money what i told to him.

No other choice to accept free money... and it was a good point.

 

I go buy 4 buckets of nice paint white color (who is expensive by the time), 4 brushes, diluent bottle to clean tools, then tell him to start a family business for painting houses or what ever on concrete to paint with that. Give him for food one week for family...

Explain him the price he should count for material and for time to work, then what he can ask at minimum price obviously, then ask more and negotiate.... then find someone who know many other people and make a good price for him and tell him to speak about his business, but never the price, who is, for him, a special price to start and to be lucky with.

He did...

Now it is 6 years that he win money for all his family like this, he is very happy and make working also 6 other people from our family. He goes to find more clients half day, and work the other half day. His wife make cooking for workers, and sometimes works to help when big job. Everything is working fine now. sometimes he has to run back to people who have difficulties to paid... that's ok.

 

In fact, many times there, i see that the problem is to build a good plan.

They just count how much money they will get back at the end, and they don't subtract what they have to paid to apply and time to work for, never include the fact that, sometime, something goes wrong and it should be in the plan... and if they have an idea, difficult to tell them what can be wrong they not see.

Need someone to organize something clear and simple for them, something who can be possible at the very first begin. Next, when it works, they are happy and said they did it (i smile and i'm very happy too, because he had a lot of money to give back to many people, little by little he goes up... the only one problem now is to make him understand that he doesn't need a credit to buy a new big car... he doesn't need to paid more than what he really have in the pocket, need time and work).

 

You don't know how much what you said is true... i think it is a cultural mind thinking who is different.

This world is terrible, they are not wrong or bad, they are just different and need a bit of help. But yes, you can not ask something very difficult first.

Roma was not built in one day.

Edited August 6, 2020 by jerolamo

[Trevor Collins]

1 hour ago, SVC Porter said:

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2020/08/04/malaysia-my-second-home-programme-on-hold/

Point taken, Mr/Ms Porter, but the premise still holds true that Malaysia appears to be more welcoming of farangs than Thailand will ever be, and are grateful and respectful of them.

[sandyf]

6 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Obviously you missed this:

The Tourism and Sports Ministry aims to introduce travel packages to lure around two million expats in Thailand into travelling around the country to boost domestic tourism, with price promotions for accommodations and attractions equal to those offered to Thai tourists, Minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn said today (August 5).

I haven't missed anything.

When at first you don't succeed, try again or give up?. Obviously TVF would prefer the latter.

You were wrong to say foreigners had never been considered.