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Problems getting married - because of current amnesty ?

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Hello,

 

I am from germany. My last entry to thailand was at the end of january with a re-entry permit for my ED Visa which was issued in Phuket and was valid, with a basic (non covid) extension till 1st May.

At the end of April me and my fiancee moved to Hua Hin due to the Phuket lockdown and everything being unclear. We planned to get married now for almost a year and I was getting all the paperwork from germany ready (which was alot as you probably know since mid 2019).

 

Today finally I was able to pick up the final paper which is a consular certificate from the german embassy. This will get legislated tomorrow morning at the Ministry of foreign affairs and then we should be able to marry immediately.

However we already visited Amphur Bangrak today to make an appointment and made sure we dont need nothing else. After they were talking quite long to my fiancee they did send us to the immigration Chaengwattana because I needed a "stamp" to confirm I am not on overstay. I already knew this would cause further issues...

We went to Chaengwattana where the friendly IO told us they wouldnt give me such a stamp and that they could do nothing when the Amphur doesnt follow immigration rules. 

We went back to Bangrak and told them we wouldnt get any of that and they then told me I would need a letter from my embassy (which they wont issue..omg..) that states I dont have criminal background (?). More eyebrows raised. I dont exactly know how this correlates to my "overstay" which of course isnt an overstay but I get that they only see my valid visa till 1st May.

 

Covid or not, I want to get married to my fiancee for more than a year now and we were very excited in the morning that we were finally be able to which then quickly turned into sadness because not only do we need more documents but also Bangrak just let us leave with a "mai dai kha", also stating that the german embassy wouldnt issue such a letter.

Both, Amphur Bangrak and the Immigration refused to give us a letter that states that they wouldnt issue any stamp or document and why.

 

I would be very grateful for some advice. 

 

Max

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Note: on some amphurs there might not be a person authorized to marry foreigners, and you might need witnesses, that reside in that amphur (crazy I know).

 

You can get married in any amphur you like, but it's up to them to make up their rules lol.

 

I married at don mueang amphur, had a local "marriage agent" in trendy building, arrange for everything (translations etc, no need for own leg work) for a fee of 3000, including reserving our time to appear at the amphur, where we then were "questioned" for how long had we known each other, and what was the date we first met, how long we dated before we moved in together and who would take the name of who, and then we just sat and wait until the head honcho came to present our marriage certificates, and told a few words of wisdom, and declared we're married - all in about 30 mins of time

 

(this was in the beginning of covid outbreak, a day before they announced they would not handle any foreigner business there).

 

Good luck and if you want the agent/organizer details feel free to PM, I suppose they're eager for some business 🙂

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Welcome to Thailand. If you are planning on staying here, then you'd better get used to this behaviour. "Mai dai" is also Thai for "I don't want to help you so <deleted> off". You'll figure that out.

 

Most headaches and obstacles in Thailand can be overcome by employing an "agent". In the west we would call them something else. 

 

The other way to get things moving is to have a powerful friend or family member intervene.

 

God, it's starting to sound a bit dodgy now, isn't it?

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4 hours ago, jabis said:

You can get married in any amphur you like, but it's up to them to make up their rules lol.

Indeed. I couldn't get married in Bkk, but Pattaya would ( perhaps with some incentive from my wife to be, but she never said how she managed it- desperation to land the ATM no doubt had some part in it ). The best part of it was the cost- about 20 baht, if I remember correctly, and no witnesses required, or any questions about anything.

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I'm on Amnesty. I got my affidavit from the British embassy, translations, MFA certified papers, and then everything processed by the Amphur in July. We were officially married on July 20th. That part did cost 20bht @thaibeachlovers, the plastic folder cost as much as the marriage certificate. 

 

Sadly my local immigration won't offer my a non-0 or 60 day extension though, as of yesterday. So even if you achieve the first 5 steps, doesn't mean it gives you legitimacy to stay here. 

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13 hours ago, fullofmax said:

However we already visited Amphur Bangrak today to make an appointment and made sure we dont need nothing else. After they were talking quite long to my fiancee they did send us to the immigration Chaengwattana because I needed a "stamp" to confirm I am not on overstay. I already knew this would cause further issues...

Maybe try another Amphur (or Khet, as I believe they're known as in Bangkok)? My wife and I got married several years ago at Sathorn. If, for instance, they were also to say no in your case, it would probably then be worth your while employing the services of an agent to achieve the desired outcome.

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If you search Thailand diy marriage you will find a site with lots of info. 1 poster went to Lak Si and the lady at the translation desk can organize appointments at Don Muang for a fee. I live in Pattaya and an agent offered to pick me up, drive to BKK organize the certificate and drive is home for 5000-6000. We ended up going to a small island where we had friends who helped. If your fiancee is Thai maybe go to her home amphur.

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There is a very good agent in Bangkok who can probably sort this for you. I and a few friends have used her. Can pm you details if you want to chat to her 

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I live in Min Buri and i am on amnesty till 26 september.I will leave Thailand on the 24 september.
I also will get married and all my papers have been approved.
If i d ont marry then i will be a regular tourist and have for the time beiing NO chance to come back
If i marry BEFORE i go back.....i can go back to see my wife *with all the requirements.


 

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50 minutes ago, MICHAELDUTCH said:

I live in Min Buri and i am on amnesty till 26 september.I will leave Thailand on the 24 september.
I also will get married and all my papers have been approved.
If i d ont marry then i will be a regular tourist and have for the time beiing NO chance to come back
If i marry BEFORE i go back.....i can go back to see my wife *with all the requirements.

Do you need to leave Thailand?

When you have all the papers, an official thai marriage at the Amphoe will provide you same day with the required thai marriage certificates, and you can then go next day to your local IO and apply for the 60-day extension of stay to visit your thai wife.

Returning to Thailand (even when married) will be a headache...

 

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