'Do you really need to party?' WHO asks world's youth

[utalkin2me]

19 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

While I understand the sentiment, you ask many (not all I know) teenagers that question and they will look at you like you’re insane. 

And it is long overdue you start asking yourself if they would be correct to look at you like this. 

 

Old people who worry too much are basically <deleted> up the entire world right now. Need proof? Look at Sweden. They are completely over this.

[CorpusChristie]

14 minutes ago, utalkin2me said:

And it is long overdue you start asking yourself if they would be correct to look at you like this. 

 

Old people who worry too much are basically <deleted> up the entire world right now. Need proof? Look at Sweden. They are completely over this.

Its not the old people who are out spreading the virus , its the young people who are doing that

[Saint Nick]

23 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

What evidence do you have to show that Corvid is still in Thailand ?

(By the way ,"Your stupid" will not be acceptable evidence )

I don't have evidence - just a bit of common sense!

Let me explain (as if it hasn't been done a thousand times already):

a) tests were and are not widely available. So far, only a miniscule number of Thais have been tested. Numbers range from 400k to 700k! That is 0.1% of the population.

Hardly reliable!

b) as far as I know, tests are only free, if you test positive for COVID! If you test negative, you have to pay! Depending on where you are and and what hospital you go to (...and if you are Thai or foreigner) the range is from 1.000 to 11.000 THB.

Let's take a low average of THB 3.000!

Now have a look at the people in Isan! Many as poor as a puddle of pee, even before the pandemic and now even poorer, as many of the drivers of Isan- economy (the working girls of Bangkok, Pattaya etc) lost their jobs!

Do you REALLY believe, anyone would risk a THB 3.000 - test, when they feel a little feverish, have a dry cough... instead of just buying some Tiffy or get some frog-poop-pills from the local village wizard and try to ride it out?

c) before you come with the "piles of corpses in the streets"- narrative: since it is tradition to burn the dead rather quick...nope...won't happen!

d) no one tested anyone who died for COVID! EVER! 

e) the oh-so-praised widespread wearing of masks: did you EVER take a look at HOW many people were wearing those masks?

Half of the day, they were used as chin-straps by food vendors and market stall- owners, touching all their stuff with bare hands, touching their masks, never washing their hands...

I know: where YOU ARE, everybody was 100% sanatized 24/7, right!?

f) remeber, when the fresh  markets were ALL shut down?

Yes?

Because I don't!

Where I live and work (between Suan Plu and Surawonge in Bangkok) I could name you at least 4 places, where the markets NEVER closed!

Was that ever controlled?

Of course not!

(So much for discipline!)

 

I would never call you stupid!

And if I would, it would not be the only point, I am making!

But maybe...JUST MAYBE...stop thinking about Thailand as a magical fairy- kingdom, where all the mistakes of other countries don't happen!

 

[hotandsticky]

2 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

I don't have evidence - just a bit of common sense!

Let me explain (as if it hasn't been done a thousand times already):

a) tests were and are not widely available. So far, only a miniscule number of Thais have been tested. Numbers range from 400k to 700k! That is 0.1% of the population.

Hardly reliable!

b) as far as I know, tests are only free, if you test positive for COVID! If you test negative, you have to pay! Depending on where you are and and what hospital you go to (...and if you are Thai or foreigner) the range is from 1.000 to 11.000 THB.

Let's take a low average of THB 3.000!

Now have a look at the people in Isan! Many as poor as a puddle of pee, even before the pandemic and now even poorer, as many of the drivers of Isan- economy (the working girls of Bangkok, Pattaya etc) lost their jobs!

Do you REALLY believe, anyone would risk a THB 3.000 - test, when they feel a little feverish, have a dry cough... instead of just buying some Tiffy or get some frog-poop-pills from the local village wizard and try to ride it out?

c) before you come with the "piles of corpses in the streets"- narrative: since it is tradition to burn the dead rather quick...nope...won't happen!

d) no one tested anyone who died for COVID! EVER! 

e) the oh-so-praised widespread wearing of masks: did you EVER take a look at HOW many people were wearing those masks?

Half of the day, they were used as chin-straps by food vendors and market stall- owners, touching all their stuff with bare hands, touching their masks, never washing their hands...

I know: where YOU ARE, everybody was 100% sanatized 24/7, right!?

f) remeber, when the fresh  markets were ALL shut down?

Yes?

Because I don't!

Where I live and work (between Suan Plu and Surawonge in Bangkok) I could name you at least 4 places, where the markets NEVER closed!

Was that ever controlled?

Of course not!

(So much for discipline!)

 

I would never call you stupid!

And if I would, it would not be the only point, I am making!

But maybe...JUST MAYBE...stop thinking about Thailand as a magical fairy- kingdom, where all the mistakes of other countries don't happen!

 

 

 

Unfortunately, your common-sense does not correlate with mine. There is no CV19 in Thailand the facts support that statement. 

 

Do you know anyone who knows anyone who knows someone who has contracted the virus?   No.............. I didn't think so. This infection is not something you can hide unless you are asymptomatic.... by definition 100% of the people could not be asymptomatic.

 

You can skirt over the extensive use of masks (especially in the early stages when there was a real risk of infection) which does help - even WHO now (eventually) recognise that.

 

You can dismiss the corpses in the street argument but the fact is that has been no increase in deaths in Thailand (therefor no impact from CV19 cases). Hospotals under pressure from CV19 admissions?..... No.

 

 

 

[Stargeezr]

Good question from the WHO, and the answer is no.  The young people can

remember that corona virus is spreadable, and if they go into big groups

then come back to their parents homes to live in the basement, infect the

parents and old relatives, they should be held responsible for any deaths

they cause. This is how it should be, but the young generation does not

take responsibility for much of anything. That is just a Fact..  Sad but True.

   Geezer

[Saint Nick]

23 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Unfortunately, your common-sense does not correlate with mine. There is no CV19 in Thailand the facts support that statement. 

 

Do you know anyone who knows anyone who knows someone who has contracted the virus?   No.............. I didn't think so. This infection is not something you can hide unless you are asymptomatic.... by definition 100% of the people could not be asymptomatic.

 

You can skirt over the extensive use of masks (especially in the early stages when there was a real risk of infection) which does help - even WHO now (eventually) recognise that.

 

You can dismiss the corpses in the street argument but the fact is that has been no increase in deaths in Thailand (therefor no impact from CV19 cases). Hospotals under pressure from CV19 admissions?..... No.

 

 

 

No...I don;t know anyone!

Also, I have never seen a life Narwhale, but I heard they totally exist!

 

I am not skirting over the use of masks!

What I am saying is, that if you looked closely (well...not even that closely, because it was for all to see), even in the beginning, many people were not using a mask CORRECTLY!

If you wear them on your Adam's apple for a good part of the day, while you touch millions of things and never wahs your hands or use sanitizer, you might as well wear no mask!

And this did not happen in one or two cases, observed over a week- it happened DAILY and EVERYWHERE!

 

I heard somewhere (maybe someone can help me out on this) that Thailand had a raise in pneumonia deaths around the 20.000 mark during the last few months!

20.000 divided by 6 months = 3333 more death every month ...divided by 76 provinces...that is a rise of 43 deaths per month per province...

Now...

a) that would actually not be too difficult to ignore

b) isn't it funny, that this is about respiratory sickness alone? 20.000 pneumonia deaths?

Not the least bit suspicious in an outbreak of another respiratory disease, isn't it?

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Not so long ago the younger generation was saying that the world was coming to an end because of climate change due to the lack of effort by politicians.

 

What was it Greta said? “The Older Generations Are Failing Us.” 

 

Seems the boots on the other foot now.

[micmichd]

1 hour ago, Saint Nick said:

"Maybe you think that females, Thai females should be subordinates and never have a different opinion to you and to agree with you all the time ?"

Where - in the name of all that is holy - did that come from?

Maybe you should stop kissing behinds- Thais won't like you one iota more for doing it!

 

Her posts almost always close to being off- topic!

She constantly praises "her" people for being sooooo amazing and all foreigners (and their governments) for being stupid, citing the same charts over and over again!

And THAT is, what is being criticized!

But in that she's right. 

Look what's happening in the West with the pandemic, and then compare it to Thailand. 

[poloshirt]

On 8/6/2020 at 7:29 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

Looking at the world today it should not be too difficult for the young people to see what the older generations f$#$# up over the last decades and centuries.

The world is anyhow going down the drain and life for the now young people will be likely difficult when they are older.

Having that in mind I think it's not too difficult to understand when they want to have some fun in their life.

Is there behavior responsible? No.

Was the behavior from all the older generations always responsible? No

Nobody should be surprised that the young act now like the former young acted 50 years ago.

Not really true. The older generation didn't jump from high buildings roof tops to roof tops. They didn't take selfie from fast moving trains either. Correct me if I am wrong. cheers

[micmichd]

8 minutes ago, poloshirt said:

Not really true. The older generation didn't jump from high buildings roof tops to roof tops. They didn't take selfie from fast moving trains either. Correct me if I am wrong. cheers

You're wrong. 

I was once young, and I jumped from tree to tree, from party to party, and from girl to girl. 

[OneMoreFarang]

14 minutes ago, poloshirt said:

Not really true. The older generation didn't jump from high buildings roof tops to roof tops. They didn't take selfie from fast moving trains either. Correct me if I am wrong. cheers

I am sure there are lots of things which the new generation do which the old generation didn't do.

But I am also sure that is true the other way around.

I.e. drunk driving was for a long time not see as a serious problem. And until relative recently nobody cared about pollution, poisonous rivers, and many other things which the young generation takes serious today.

 

I don't want to make any generation better or worse than they are. My point is I can understand that the young generation want some fun in their life and they don't take all the rules so serious - just like any young generation before them.

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, utalkin2me said:

And it is long overdue you start asking yourself if they would be correct to look at you like this. 

 

Old people who worry too much are basically <deleted> up the entire world right now. Need proof? Look at Sweden. They are completely over this.

Link to reputable site showing Sweden is “over” COVID 19 please. 

[micmichd]

12 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I am sure there are lots of things which the new generation do which the old generation didn't do.

But I am also sure that is true the other way around.

I.e. drunk driving was for a long time not see as a serious problem. And until relative recently nobody cared about pollution, poisonous rivers, and many other things which the young generation takes serious today.

 

I don't want to make any generation better or worse than they are. My point is I can understand that the young generation want some fun in their life and they don't take all the rules so serious - just like any young generation before them.

Sorry, I took environmental issues serious when I was young. I took the Meadows report serious, and I saw the upcoming North South conflict. I told them I would be on the side of the Global South - and was called a "terrorist" for that in Germany. 

 

Today's Western youth is a little late. Maybe too late, I don't care anymore. 

[Keyser Soze666]

Don't know about other countries but in the UK the yoof go out and party a lot less now than we did in our day back in Suffolk. Reasons being pubs are more expensive, no one really drinks and drives anymore, taxi's are ridiculously expensive, and the main reason there is simply a lot more home entertainment these days with smart phones, Netflix and so on....the pub culture is not what it was now,. As for nightclubs, do they still exist, the 10 to 2 dance if you got lucky?

 

As for WHO, the one thing Trump has gone right is outing these fraudsters for what they are. Hasn't anyone told them yet that no one takes a blind bit of notice of what they say anymore?

Edited August 7, 2020 by Keyser Soze666

[micmichd]

9 minutes ago, Keyser Soze666 said:

Don't know about other countries but in the UK the yoof go out and party a lot less now than we did in our day back in Suffolk. Reasons being pubs are more expensive, no one really drinks and drives anymore, taxi's are ridiculously expensive, and the main reason there is simply a lot more home entertainment these days with smart phones, Netflix and so on....the pub culture is not what it was now,. As for nightclubs, did they still exist, the 10 to 2 dance if you got lucky?

 

As for WHO, the one thing Trump has gone right is outing these fraudsters for what they are. Hasn't anyone told them yet that no one takes a blind bit of notice of what they say anymore?

WHO can close the borders. Then Trump's USA would be locked in. 

[Saint Nick]

1 hour ago, micmichd said:

But in that she's right. 

Look what's happening in the West with the pandemic, and then compare it to Thailand. 

Yeah- I did!

And I am drawing different conclusions!

Mostly because I don't trust the Thai- government and any numbre it announces, further than I can throw them!

 

But like I said: you may eat up, whatever they feed you- even if it is total and utter ....

[micmichd]

2 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

Yeah- I did!

And I am drawing different conclusions!

Mostly because I don't trust the Thai- government and any numbre it announces, further than I can throw them!

 

But like I said: you may eat up, whatever they feed you- even if it is total and utter ....

I trust Thai medicine, and I trust the Thai medical system. It's acknowledged to be the best in the world. 

[Saint Nick]

1 hour ago, micmichd said:

I trust Thai medicine, and I trust the Thai medical system. It's acknowledged to be the best in the world. 

The best?

In the world?

...ooooo...kay....

[Meat Pie 47]

I wonder if he has ever been to a public hospital in Thailand

people sleeping on the floor, dogs roaming in wards but of course

it is the best if you come from another 3rd world country

[rabas]

2 hours ago, micmichd said:

WHO can close the borders. Then Trump's USA would be locked in. 

WHO can't even close the front door, much less get anywhere near Wuhan when it was essential to do so.  WHO are you kidding?

[pookondee]

9 hours ago, Yinn said:

In West Australia most (89%) people not be tested. 

No test, no case. 

 

You dont believe that Thailand is virus free .

Why should we believe that where you live is virus free

 

 

I normally agree with most things you say, but here you are way off.

W.A is very isolated. they have no mass tourism.

The small people who go there are not likely to be infected.

I believe what they say, more than anywhere else in the world...

 

So whats happened to คนไทย??

 

Really? 

Once you did stand proud and tall, thinking nothing can beat you..

 

and look at you all now...you scared and want to hide away..from farang..

thinking ตายแล้ว is not such a joke anymore and its true...

but most get over this flu in 1 week, but Thai think its the death sentance via farang.... and not China??

 

WOW!!!

 

sad sad sad. 

so many Thai people fall for this media BS

 

Edited August 7, 2020 by pookondee

[micmichd]

2 hours ago, pookondee said:

I normally agree with most things you say, but here you are way off.

W.A is very isolated. they have no mass tourism.

The small people who go there are not likely to be infected.

I believe what they say, more than anywhere else in the world...

 

So whats happened to คนไทย??

 

Really? 

Once you did stand proud and tall, thinking nothing can beat you..

 

and look at you all now...you scared and want to hide away..from farang..

thinking ตายแล้ว is not such a joke anymore and its true...

but most get over this flu in 1 week, but Thai think its the death sentance via farang.... and not China??

 

WOW!!!

 

sad sad sad. 

so many Thai people fall for this media BS

 

The sad thing is that most Farangs here never really care about Thai people. 

So, why should Thais care about Farangs?

[Meat Pie 47]

47 minutes ago, micmichd said:

The sad thing is that most Farangs here never really care about Thai people. 

So, why should Thais care about Farangs?

Rubbish, where I live we have a large Thai population they get treated as equal

and not abused like Thais do to farangs 

[Yinn]

4 hours ago, pookondee said:

I normally agree with most things you say, but here you are way off.

W.A is very isolated. they have no mass tourism.

The small people who go there are not likely to be infected.

I believe what they say, more than anywhere else in the world...

 

So whats happened to คนไทย??

 

Really? 

Once you did stand proud and tall, thinking nothing can beat you..

 

Still true. We beat covid. 

 

4 hours ago, pookondee said:

 

and look at you all now...you scared and want to hide away..from farang..

thinking ตายแล้ว is not such a joke anymore and its true...

but most get over this flu in 1 week, but Thai think its the death sentance via farang.... and not China??

More farangs have it than Chinese. 

In March we more worry about Chinese. Now is farang. Most covid is farang.

I not worry about farang. I worry about Burmese. They the border with India. I live Ranong, the border with Burma. 

 

 

4 hours ago, pookondee said:

 

WOW!!!

 

sad sad sad. 

so many Thai people fall for this media BS

 

Make me sad that you only read TVF for thai news. 

The translations make you think that. Tricky. 

“Based on a true story”. 

Show me in real Thai news. 

[Yinn]

1 hour ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

Rubbish, where I live we have a large Thai population they get treated as equal

and not abused like Thais do to farangs 

Er ok. Yes, very lovely. Australia famous for the beautiful Australian smile. 

 

 

The bodies of Phuangsri Kroksamrang, 58, and Somjai Insamnan, 27, were found floating in the Adelaide river south of Darwin by tourist boats last Wednesday. 

They are thought to have drowned after being thrown from a bridge with their hands and legs bound. Investigators have suggested that their killers may have intended them to be eaten by crocodiles to prevent the bodies being found.

Link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/mar/12/australia.davidfickling

[Yinn]

10 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

I don't have evidence - just a bit of common sense!

Let me explain (as if it hasn't been done a thousand times already):

a) tests were and are not widely available. So far, only a miniscule number of Thais have been tested. Numbers range from 400k to 700k! That is 0.1% of the population.

Hardly reliable!

You calculator hardly reliable. 

 

10 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

b) as far as I know, tests are only free, if you test positive for COVID! If you test negative, you have to pay! Depending on where you are and and what hospital you go to (...and if you are Thai or foreigner) the range is from 1.000 to 11.000 THB.

Let's take a low average of THB 3.000!

Now have a look at the people in Isan! Many as poor as a puddle of pee, even before the pandemic and now even poorer, as many of the drivers of Isan- economy (the working girls of Bangkok, Pattaya etc) lost their jobs!

Oh, Issan. Working girls Pattaya. 

 

10 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

Do you REALLY believe, anyone would risk a THB 3.000 - test, when they feel a little feverish, have a dry cough... instead of just buying some Tiffy or get some frog-poop-pills from the local village wizard and try to ride it out?

c) before you come with the "piles of corpses in the streets"- narrative: since it is tradition to burn the dead rather quick...nope...won't happen!

d) no one tested anyone who died for COVID! EVER! 

e) the oh-so-praised widespread wearing of masks: did you EVER take a look at HOW many people were wearing those masks?

Half of the day, they were used as chin-straps by food vendors and market stall- owners, touching all their stuff with bare hands, touching their masks, never washing their hands...

I know: where YOU ARE, everybody was 100% sanatized 24/7, right!?

You confused.

 

10 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

f) remeber, when the fresh  markets were ALL shut down?

Yes?

Because I don't!

Where I live and work (between Suan Plu and Surawonge in Bangkok) I could name you at least 4 places, where the markets NEVER closed!

People need food. 

Rule to wear the mask, hand sanitizer, social distance, plastic screen.

very successful.

 

 

10 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

 

I would never call you stupid!

And if I would, it would not be the only point, I am making!

But maybe...JUST MAYBE...stop thinking about Thailand as a magical fairy- kingdom, where all the mistakes of other countries don't happen!

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30392083

Thailand tops global ranking for handling of Covid-19 crisis

 

https://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/detail/TCATG200617131619377

Due to the well-managed COVID-19 situation in Thailand, the kingdom has been receiving compliments from many countries as well as from the United Nations.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/who-praises-thailand-for-its-efforts-to-contain-covid-19/

The World Health Organization’s representative in Thailand has praised Thailand for its ability, to date, to contain the spread of COVID-19 and for being the first country, outside China, to identify a coronavirus as the cause

 

WHO, UNited Nations, world leader, Covid Organisation etc.?

 

or anti masker loon on Internet forum from high covid country?

 

[Meat Pie 47]

52 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Er ok. Yes, very lovely. Australia famous for the beautiful Australian smile. 

 

 

The bodies of Phuangsri Kroksamrang, 58, and Somjai Insamnan, 27, were found floating in the Adelaide river south of Darwin by tourist boats last Wednesday. 

They are thought to have drowned after being thrown from a bridge with their hands and legs bound. Investigators have suggested that their killers may have intended them to be eaten by crocodiles to prevent the bodies being found.

Link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/mar/12/australia.davidfickling

you are sick, you like me to post how many farangs got killed in Thailand ? you have no idea. And

it has nothing to do with the subject at least when Australians or any other farangs smile

they mean it we don't have to lose face. How many times have you been outside Thailand?

And I am not talking about Laos Cambodia or Vietnam you know nothing about the 

civilized world

Edited August 7, 2020 by Meat Pie 47
added

[vermin on arrival]

11 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

You can dismiss the corpses in the street argument but the fact is that has been no increase in deaths in Thailand (therefor no impact from CV19 cases). Hospotals under pressure from CV19 admissions?..... No.

 

Actually, according to the BBC from March 1 to May 31 "The number of deaths in Thailand has been 2% higher than average, with about 2,400 more people dying than usual." This excludes the month of February when things had already kicked off here with the first reported case on Jan. 31.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53073046

Edited August 7, 2020 by vermin on arrival

[Meat Pie 47]

3 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:

Actually, according to the BBC from March 1 to May 31 "The number of deaths in Thailand has been 2% higher than average, with about 2,400 more people dying than usual."

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53073046

you better tell Yinn

[The Barmbeker]

12 hours ago, Yinn said:

 

Still true. We beat covid. 

 

More farangs have it than Chinese. 

In March we more worry about Chinese. Now is farang. Most covid is farang.

I not worry about farang. I worry about Burmese. They the border with India. I live Ranong, the border with Burma. 

 

 

Make me sad that you only read TVF for thai news. 

The translations make you think that. Tricky. 

“Based on a true story”. 

Show me in real Thai news. 

 

12 hours ago, Yinn said:

Er ok. Yes, very lovely. Australia famous for the beautiful Australian smile. 

 

 

The bodies of Phuangsri Kroksamrang, 58, and Somjai Insamnan, 27, were found floating in the Adelaide river south of Darwin by tourist boats last Wednesday. 

They are thought to have drowned after being thrown from a bridge with their hands and legs bound. Investigators have suggested that their killers may have intended them to be eaten by crocodiles to prevent the bodies being found.

Link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/mar/12/australia.davidfickling

Koh Tao, anyone?