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Why are people staying in Thailand when then can't meet TI's financial requirements?

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16 hours ago, Falconator said:

Two options:

Pay health insurance costs of nearly $10,000 per year in the US

Pay health insurance costs of $2,000 per year in Thailand

 

 

 

What about if he doesn't hail from the USA at all? Oh...you thought there were only two countries in the whole world? 

Wow...just....wow...

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6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO they demand it to keep out those that are too poor to be able to pay for exceptional situations like hospital after an accident. Quite right too.

If you don't want to comply with the requirements go live at home, wherever that is.

 

What if Thailand is their home?

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6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO that person hadn't done sufficient research to know it was a bad idea to invest millions in a home that he could never own, and if his situation changed he might have to go home.

It's not like things haven't changed significantly many times in the past few decades.

 

IMO the fault lies with the naive person that thinks things will never change and acts as though they have a right to live in LOS, when they do not.

 

It is the right of Thais to set whatever requirements they like, just as it is the right of other countries to stop Thai girlfriends visiting the boyfriend's home country because they can't satisfy the imm. officer that they will leave.

 

 

Oh please....everyone is super smart after the fact. There are possibly people that have been here for twenty to thirty years. Not everyone has a twenty or thirty year plan and even if they did, things change. They just live their lives. Maybe met someone, started a family, bought a house and are doing fine. But they might not have 65k per month to show or 800k in the bank because of exchange rate issues. Still contributing to the Thai economy and their communities. One size does not fit all and people can have legitimate complaints about being caught up in such a rigid ruling.

Which is why there is the agent avenue. So people can get on with the lives they have made here.

I for one, am not affected by any of their rules. But am also not so selfish and blinkered to imagine that everyone has the same circumstances.

 

Here we have those who imagine they sit in some ivory tower, flanked by those who were forced to go home because of a lack of funds. 

But that doesn't cover those who have ample funds, are supporting their families and have lived here for many years. Those people should have their status 'grandfathered', with only new arrivals subject to the requirements.

 

Really disgusted by some of the comments here.

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6 hours ago, luckyluke said:

Spending big/small money, in Thailand, for whatever, is a choice.

Complying to the laws and rules of Immigration is a necessity to be able to get the permission to stay for a laps of time,

despite the laws and rules may appear as being stupid/unrealistic.

 

 

 

Thank you for stating the obvious. 

 

Why are people staying in Thailand when then can't meet TI's financial requirements? is the topic, not what are the financial requirements for staying in Thailand.

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2 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

 

Oh please....everyone is super smart after the fact. There are possibly people that have been here for twenty to thirty years. Not everyone has a twenty or thirty year plan and even if they did, things change. They just live their lives. Maybe met someone, started a family, bought a house and are doing fine. But they might not have 65k per month to show or 800k in the bank because of exchange rate issues. Still contributing to the Thai economy and their communities. One size does not fit all and people can have legitimate complaints about being caught up in such a rigid ruling.

Which is why there is the agent avenue. So people can get on with the lives they have made here.

I for one, am not affected by any of their rules. But am also not so selfish and blinkered to imagine that everyone has the same circumstances.

 

Here we have those who imagine they sit in some ivory tower, flanked by those who were forced to go home because of a lack of funds. 

But that doesn't cover those who have ample funds, are supporting their families and have lived here for many years. Those people should have their status 'grandfathered', with only new arrivals subject to the requirements.

 

Really disgusted by some of the comments here.

I would/do  agree with much of your opinion but to be fair to the overall debate there are  those who persist in defying any sort of compliance to Immigration conditions who have no ethical legitimacy or other than that defiance.

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Just now, Dumbastheycome said:

I would/do  agree with much of your opinion but to be fair to the overall debate there are  those who persist in defying any sort of compliance to Immigration conditions who have no ethical legitimacy or other than that defiance.

 

So address those people. 

I know people who have been here for most of their adult lives. Have run successful businesses etc Going back to where they were born is not a good option, when they already have a house and and income here.

So these people should be protected.

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6 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

Which is why there is the agent avenue. So people can get on with the lives they have made here.

I for one, am not affected by any of their rules. But am also not so selfish and blinkered to imagine that everyone has the same circumstances.

 

Here we have those who imagine they sit in some ivory tower, flanked by those who were forced to go home because of a lack of funds. 

But that doesn't cover those who have ample funds, are supporting their families and have lived here for many years. Those people should have their status 'grandfathered', with only new arrivals subject to the requirements.

What I don't like in your post is that you seem to believe that there is a causal link between the tough situation of some expats and the existence of the corrupt agent system. This situation allows corrupt IOs to get rich illegally on the back of people who are in dire straights.

It would be much more effective and humane to enforce, strictly all requirement for a few probation years and then, very officially show more leniency to those who have made Thailand their home. In fact the core issue could be the fact that Permanent Residency is only available to those who work or invest in Thailand, even though some of those eligible may earn less than the better off retirees.

 

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34 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

What if Thailand is their home?

Any place you have to report every 90 days is not your home.

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1 hour ago, Eindhoven said:

 

What about if he doesn't hail from the USA at all? Oh...you thought there were only two countries in the whole world? 

Wow...just....wow...

Free healthcare in Eindhoven? Sign me up!

Wait, but your taxes pay for that too, so it's not actually free.

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Mandatory Dutch taxes that pay for the universal healthcare system come out to be more expensive than private health insurance in Thailand.

 

That's why there is no need to complain, because truly free healthcare does not exist in most developed countries either.

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