New York sues to break up NRA, accuses it of corruption

[Why Me]

9 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Agree with that.

But the question remains, how would a Texas move affect the lawsuit?

If crimes were committed in NY jurisdiction I doubt the NRA can escape by moving. They (or their reps) would be extradited to face charges.

[simple1]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So if it’s not about crimes the court will reject the filing, there will be no evidence of crimes, there will be no guilty verdict and there will be no court orders, fines, imprisonments or asset seizures.

 

I suspect there are crimes and a very clear evidence trail.

 

However, Trump supporters will ignore the criminality because, as you so rightly state the NRA is a supporter of Trump’s the-election bid.

 

 

I do think the timing of the charges wasn't a particularly good move. It will provide trump and his supporters to indulge in the usual conspiracy rants which will influence some voters to vote against the Dems. There again to not call out the people at the NRA at this time due to political concerns would have been a dangerous political gamble - very tough call for the NY AG to launch a civil lawsuit. I would assume Bidden is not too pleased with the distraction.

[simple1]

 

14 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Agree with that.

But the question remains, how would a Texas move affect the lawsuit?

Don't know

[animalmagic]

27 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Even Letitia James would not be stupid enough to make that allegation.

 

 

My humble apologies.  I didn't realise that as a stupid non-American I wasn't allowed to ask questions.  Do they have defamation laws in USA as well?  I'm shocked.

[Why Me]

4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I would assume Bidden is not too pleased with the distraction.

The gun nuts are a core Trump constituency. They'd vote for him even he shot one of them on Fifth Ave.

 

I doubt the AG moved without substantial evidence. She doesn't want to look silly any more than anyone else. And I suspect if the charges look like they're going to damage the NRA, a lot of independents will be happy. And happy to vote for Biden to keep the momentum going.

[Logosone]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

I do think the timing of the charges wasn't a particularly good move. It will provide trump and his supporters to indulge in the usual conspiracy rants which will influence some voters to vote against the Dems. There again to not call out the people at the NRA at this time due to political concerns would have been a dangerous political gamble - very tough call for the NY AG to launch a civil lawsuit. I would assume Bidden is not too pleased with the distraction.

Terrible move by Letitia.

 

Not only does it illustrate the litigious backstabbing many AGs now engage in, politicising their office, but it also jolts all the millions of NRA members into action as they see their much beloved organisation being treated like, as was said here, Al Capone.

 

The political response by those in the NRA, many of whom are very high profile and very wealthy, will strengthen Trump's numbers come election time. However the legal action will drag on for years.

 

Bad move.

[riclag]

18 minutes ago, Why Me said:

Hey, dopey, you forgot the fifth one: NRA Fund to Rehabilitate Victims and Families of Gun Massacres.

You need to read the rules here,about comments toward other members

[Venom]

Pot meets kettle. 

[Logosone]

3 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

My humble apologies.  I didn't realise that as a stupid non-American I wasn't allowed to ask questions.  Do they have defamation laws in USA as well?  I'm shocked.

That's quite allright.

 

But, out of curiosity, why would the NRA launder money it receives from legitimate membership fees?

 

You do realise the NRA is not a drug distribution network? 

 

Seriously, what kind of question is this?

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

You need to read the rules here,about comments toward other members

Very rarely do I agree with you. On this one you are spot on.

[animalmagic]

2 minutes ago, Logosone said:

That's quite allright.

 

But, out of curiosity, why would the NRA launder money it receives from legitimate membership fees?

 

You do realise the NRA is not a drug distribution network? 

 

Seriously, what kind of question is this?

Out of curiosity, does the NRA receive money other than legitimate membership fees?

You do realise that not only drug distributors launder money?

Kind of a valid question, but that's only my opinion as a stupid person.

[Why Me]

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

28 minutes ago, Why Me said:

Hey, dopey, you forgot the fifth one: NRA Fund to Rehabilitate Victims and Families of Gun Massacres.

You need to read the rules here,about comments toward other members

I am sorry but sometimes I find it hard to hide my contempt for stupid people. Oh, shoot, I did it again. I am out of here.

[Logosone]

1 minute ago, animalmagic said:

Out of curiosity, does the NRA receive money other than legitimate membership fees?

You do realise that not only drug distributors launder money?

Kind of a valid question, but that's only my opinion as a stupid person.

And perhaps you would like to disclose your evidence for your belief that the NRA launders money?

 

Because it wouldn't just be idle fanciful accusations without basis I'm sure.

[Logosone]

1 minute ago, Why Me said:

I am sorry but sometimes I find it hard to hide my contempt for stupid people. Oh, shoot, I did it again. I am out of here.

 

Are you off to the shooting range? 

[animalmagic]

1 minute ago, Logosone said:

And perhaps you would like to disclose your evidence for your belief that the NRA launders money?

 

Because it wouldn't just be idle fanciful accusations without basis I'm sure.

My earlier post that you replied to - "Out of curiosity, does the NRA receive money other than legitimate membership fees?

You do realise that not only drug distributors launder money?

Kind of a valid question, but that's only my opinion as a stupid person."

Please advise what part of my above post is an idle fanciful accusation without basis.  I'm sure the professional investigators in USA will disclose any proof they unearth on any criminal activity when the time is right.

[scorecard]

19 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Terrible move by Letitia.

 

Not only does it illustrate the litigious backstabbing many AGs now engage in, politicising their office, but it also jolts all the millions of NRA members into action as they see their much beloved organisation being treated like, as was said here, Al Capone.

 

The political response by those in the NRA, many of whom are very high profile and very wealthy, will strengthen Trump's numbers come election time. However the legal action will drag on for years.

 

Bad move.

 

"Terrible move by Letitia.

 

Not only does it illustrate the litigious backstabbing many ....."

 

I get it, if donald fires people who are doing their assigned job or because they quote facts which donald doesn't see as supporting his campaign, or when donald deliberately misquotes medical fact etc., it's all OK.

 

But if a prosecutor charges one of donalds' allies (with strong evidence) it's 'a terrible move'.

 

Your bias is as obvious as the nose on your face.

Edited August 7, 2020 by scorecard

[Logosone]

6 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

My earlier post that you replied to - "Out of curiosity, does the NRA receive money other than legitimate membership fees?

You do realise that not only drug distributors launder money?

Kind of a valid question, but that's only my opinion as a stupid person."

Please advise what part of my above post is an idle fanciful accusation without basis.  I'm sure the professional investigators in USA will disclose any proof they unearth on any criminal activity when the time is right.

Okay, so you raised the notion that the NRA launders money-

 

even though you have no evidence of this accusation whatsoever.

 

Okay. Thanks for clarifying.

[Phoenix Rising]

12 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Okay, so you raised the notion that the NRA launders money-

No, he did not. The connection was made entirely and tellingly by you.

[Puccini]

8 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Don't worry Beto will be gun czar soon. 

Are you talking about Robert Francis "Beto" O'Rourke?

[Chomper Higgot]

49 minutes ago, Logosone said:

That's quite allright.

 

But, out of curiosity, why would the NRA launder money it receives from legitimate membership fees?

 

You do realise the NRA is not a drug distribution network? 

 

Seriously, what kind of question is this?

You need to read the report from the Senate investigation into the NRA and it’s links to Russia.

 

It’s full of answers to your question re why the NRA would launder money.

 

It However raises the question why has the US AG refused to take action.

[OneMoreFarang]

Here are some details about what this is about. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/nra-lawsuit-new-york-attorney-general-wayne-lapierre

 

[unblocktheplanet]

About <deleted> time! The NRA has been responsible for more 'legal' unregistered gun sales than any other group, including automatic & assault weaponry, including silencers. This is not a Constitutional argument. The need for private citizens or militias to bear arms ended in the 19th century.

[unblocktheplanet]

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It However raises the question why has the US AG refused to take action.

Ummm, he's a Trumper and that's where the money comes from?!?

[Sujo]

For the AG not to file charges because an election is looming would make it a political decision.

 

For the AG to file charges due to evidence with no consideration of an election is called doing the job you get paid to do.

[Logosone]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

No, he did not. The connection was made entirely and tellingly by you.

You are wrong as always. He did:

 

"Oh, I see.  You mean the NRA is like a shell corporation laundering money."

 

Is what he wrote. Now the NRA is not laundering money. And it certainly is not a corporation.

 

Maybe read the thread before you post nonsense.

[Logosone]

46 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You need to read the report from the Senate investigation into the NRA and it’s links to Russia.

 

It’s full of answers to your question re why the NRA would launder money.

 

It However raises the question why has the US AG refused to take action.

So maybe you could post the evidence of the NRA's supposed money laundering activities.

 

Anything?

[Phoenix Rising]

5 minutes ago, Logosone said:

You are wrong as always. He did:

 

"Oh, I see.  You mean the NRA is like a shell corporation laundering money."

 

Is what he wrote. Now the NRA is not laundering money. And it certainly is not a corporation.

 

Maybe read the thread before you post nonsense.

He was asking a question, not making a claim.

You seem awfully confused today. Is everything OK?

[DoctorG]

Always fun to see people who know little about guns and gun owners espousing gun controls. The murder rate has shot up over the past month and you can bet it is rarely done by an NRA member. 

Having said that, I have no time for the NRA and if there is actual corruption then they should be stopped.

 

[stevenl]

23 minutes ago, Logosone said:

You are wrong as always. He did:

 

"Oh, I see.  You mean the NRA is like a shell corporation laundering money."

 

Is what he wrote. Now the NRA is not laundering money. And it certainly is not a corporation.

 

Maybe read the thread before you post nonsense.

You ask others proof of the NRA laundering money, since you claim the NRA is not laundering money, I'm sure you have the proof for that to show here.

[Logosone]

19 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

He was asking a question, not making a claim.

You seem awfully confused today. Is everything OK?

Lol, he was clearly insinuating the NRA laundered money. Just like Chomper Higgot, who I'm sure will surely post the evidence that the NRA is laundering money.

 

Can't wait to see it.

 

Is it going to be long?