snoop1130 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Minister sets 48-hour deadline for checks on ammonium nitrate production, storage By THE NATION Suriya Juangroongruangkit In a bid to avoid a disaster like the recent explosion in Lebanon, Industry Minister Suriya Juangroongruangkit on Friday (August 7) ordered the Department of Industrial Works to monitor the production and storage of ammonium nitrate produced in Rayong’s IRPC industrial estate. The minister has also instructed officials to check on the handling of explosive materials and chemicals at nine factories that produce matches and fireworks. The minister expects a report on all this within 48 hours. Ammonium nitrate is normally used in the production of matches, fireworks and explosives, as well as for the production of pesticide and animal-related products. It is believed that improperly stored ammonium nitrate was behind the explosion in Beirut, which killed at least 137 and injured thousands. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30392609 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-08-07 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xtof2 Posted August 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 So, they have no clues if they have some or where they stock it. Actually, not a surprise 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Until two days ago he had never heard of ammonium nitrate, while he is at it how about powerful oxidiser/fertiliser, Sodium nitrate, used to make bacon, ham and cigarettes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted August 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) Typical Thailand, something happens 1000's of miles away, so they think if it could happen there,there's a very good chance it could happen here,and they start investigating where its stored in Thailand. They already had a huge explosion in Chiang Mai with Sodium Nitrate , I expect nothing really changed after that,regards storage etc. regards worgeordie Edited August 7, 2020 by worgeordie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 It's good that a Thai government minister learns from the errors from a country far away. I wonder how many other ministers around the globe take the initiative to make sure something like this won't happen in their own countries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted August 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, xtof2 said: So, they have no clues if they have some or where they stock it. Actually, not a surprise Did you read that in the article? Or where does your knowledge come from? I wouldn't expect from any minister to know in detail which amounts of dangerous chemicals are where. His job is to know the people who know the details. And his job might be to make sure the details are correct and rules are followed. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopy Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Good heads up move by the government. 48 hours is also prudent. Some may not know ammonium nitrate explosions happen periodically around the world. For instance the 1947 Texas explosion was much bigger than the one in Lebanon. It's great to see this treated as an immediate wake up call in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, worgeordie said: Sodium Nitrate It's in the Pink salt (Prague Salt, Insta Cure #1, or pink curing salt #1 ) I use to cure my bacon. I buy 1/2 kg bags. Should I be storing it down in the wifes chemi shed way down the back yard? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Grumpy John said: It's in the Pink salt (Prague Salt, Insta Cure #1, or pink curing salt #1 ) I use to cure my bacon. I buy 1/2 kg bags. Should I be storing it down in the wifes chemi shed way down the back yard? ???? Only if you're curing your bacon with ammonium nitrate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerve Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Doing and reviewing country-wide storage checks on dangerous substances is a wise idea. This should have been done everywhere after the big explosion (also ammonium nitrate) in Tianjin port in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickstart Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Going back to the 70-80's in the UK, IRA bombs going off all the time ,the police would go around arable farms asking if any urea fertilizer had been stolen ,one of the ingredients for making a bomb. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, kickstart said: Going back to the 70-80's in the UK, IRA bombs going off all the time ,the police would go around arable farms asking if any urea fertilizer had been stolen ,one of the ingredients for making a bomb. It was called Co-op mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtof2 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: I wouldn't expect from any minister to know in detail which amounts of dangerous chemicals are where. Reassure me, you're sarcastic, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOAX Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Beirut = 2,750,000 kg ammonium nitrate. Oklahoma = 2,200 kg ammonium nitrate. Oslo = 950 kg ammonium nitrate. New Dehli = A briefcase with ammonium nitrate. Videos of the aftermaths... 2020, Beirut, 150+ dead, 5000+ injured, thousands+ buildings damaged (over half the city, 20 sq.km+). 1995, Oklahoma, 168 dead, 680 injured, 258 buildings damaged. 2011, Oslo (few people were working due to vacation), 8 dead, 200-300 injured, buildings within 400 meters were significantly damaged. 2011, New Dehli (briefcase placed outside high court building), 15 dead, 79 injured, few buildings were damaged. Clearly it should be taken seriously. Handing out 48-hour-ultimatums is just ridiculous. How about some proper reports and spreading the amount of ammonium nitrate (and other highly explosive materials) between storage locations and outside of populated areas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A512 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: It's good that a Thai government minister learns from the errors from a country far away. I wonder how many other ministers around the globe take the initiative to make sure something like this won't happen in their own countries. Mr. Trump said clearly, "it was an attack.. it was a bomb of some kind,yes' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted August 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 hours ago, A512 said: Mr. Trump said clearly, "it was an attack.. it was a bomb of some kind,yes' And who cares what that serial liar said or didn't say? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted August 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 7 hours ago, xtof2 said: 12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: I wouldn't expect from any minister to know in detail which amounts of dangerous chemicals are where. Reassure me, you're sarcastic, right? Here is what I wrote: 12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: I wouldn't expect from any minister to know in detail which amounts of dangerous chemicals are where. His job is to know the people who know the details. And his job might be to make sure the details are correct and rules are followed. Why don't you just read the whole paragraph? And why do you only quote my first sentence? Was it deliberate? Or were you in a hurry? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A512 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: And who cares what that serial liar said or didn't say? I care wake up fella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A512 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: Here is what I wrote: Why don't you just read the whole paragraph? And why do you only quote my first sentence? Was it deliberate? Or were you in a hurry? give me break ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Better check the Potassium Nitrate stocks too......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A512 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said: Better check the Potassium Nitrate stocks too......... nah, they should start checking their sugar levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I actually believe they don't know where fertilizer is stored. Heck, did they ever find all the rotting rice from the rice scheme(s) ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) In functioning countries, storages are inspected regularly and their location and specifications are uniform and enforced. No need for kneejerk checks every two decades, while in the meanwhile everybody does whatever they please. Edited August 8, 2020 by DrTuner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A512 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, DrTuner said: In functioning countries, storages are inspected regularly and their location and specifications are uniform and enforced. No need for kneejerk checks every two decades, while in the meanwhile everybody does whatever they please. nobody ever mention anything about it in the last hundred years.. now everyone is so interested.. what a load of cr4p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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