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8 hours ago, nchuckle said:

Technically you are correct,although there is no stated need for that correlation (as we know TIT so it could be anyway). Additionally,on the face of it the policy would show validity for a year including Covid and it would require delving into the small print to reveal single trips of 35 days max. Would that be something they are likely to do? Alternatively,even if you had a visa extension beyond that date could you buy a return ticket to indicate that you intended to return before the 35 days...and just not use it ?

But the Thai Embassy issuing the COE supposedly requires a copy of your insurance policy to confirm required COVID coverage for amount and period of your authorized stay along with other COE requirements.  Gotta get the COE issued before being allowed into Thailand...or even getting on the plane.  And I expect the embassy knows some people will try to play insurance coverage games. Would need to talk to the COE-issuing Thai Embassy for what-ifs.

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Immigration do not issue Retirement or Marriage Visas. They issue annual extensions of your permission of stay (permits) which your renew each year, based on retirement or Thai family.  

If it was necessary to leave the country and you are married to a Thai you could apply for a certificate of entry at this time. You would need covid 19 insurance, a covid test 72 hours before arrival,

In the future I'm sure this requirement will be relaxed but for the time being if your in Thailand just renew your extension again for the time being. There are many of us in the same position, c

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12 hours ago, bill014 said:

I am 68 and, here in the UK, I can get worldwide, multi-trip travel insurance for a premium of £67.48. This is for a max 35 day trip, gives £10 million of medical cover, INCLUDING Covid-19 + other benefits.

But you are not 86! Try getting it when you are.

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Is it confirmed somewhere that on re-entering Thailand you need to have covid-19 insurance covering the full period of your intended stay?

It's crazy that there is no clarity about this.

And if you need to be covered for the full period of your intended stay, that's also a crazy and not well-thought out approach, because you can arrive with a 30-day, 60-day, 90-day or remaining days on your MutipleEntry Visa / Re-Entry permit.

So what if you apply for an extension of stay after your arrival and permission to stay used up?

> imo a requirement for a 30-day valid covid-19 insurance on the moment of entry would make some sense, as that already covers twice the incubation period of covid-19, so after 30 days it is clear that you were virus-free on entry.  And then there is no difference anymore between you and anybody else staying in Thailand.

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40 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

So what if you apply for an extension of stay after your arrival and permission to stay used up?

> imo a requirement for a 30-day valid covid-19 insurance on the moment of entry would make some sense, as that already covers twice the incubation period of covid-19, so after 30 days it is clear that you were virus-free on entry.  And then there is no difference anymore between you and anybody else staying in Thailand.

Exactly as I see the situation.

The Covid Insurance is only a requirement for entry, not to stay in Thailand.

Provincial Immigration offices probably wouldn't even be aware of the entry requirements and there is nothing in their orders to request such Insurance, unlike the General Health Insurance requirement for extensions of O-A Visas.

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4 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

Is it confirmed somewhere that on re-entering Thailand you need to have covid-19 insurance covering the full period of your intended stay?

It's crazy that there is no clarity about this.

And if you need to be covered for the full period of your intended stay, that's also a crazy and not well-thought out approach, because you can arrive with a 30-day, 60-day, 90-day or remaining days on your MutipleEntry Visa / Re-Entry permit.

So what if you apply for an extension of stay after your arrival and permission to stay used up?

> imo a requirement for a 30-day valid covid-19 insurance on the moment of entry would make some sense, as that already covers twice the incubation period of covid-19, so after 30 days it is clear that you were virus-free on entry.  And then there is no difference anymore between you and anybody else staying in Thailand.

 

There is plenty of clarity. Any Thai embassy in the world will confirm it needs to cover the full period of your stay.

 

If there is any lack of clarity it is posters here who don't read the embassy's web sites or who have not spoken to them.

 

As for how many days you arrive on - who is actually going to leave after that? Everyone is going to get an extension. Thus it is the period of your intended stay, not the period of your initial entry. 

 

Besides, once you are in, you are in until mid next year when this thing is over. Unless you are relocating out or a close relative is about to die, you would have to be mad to leave Thailand before the middle of next year.

 

So defacto this means any insurance policy needs to be 1 year.

 

As for the 30 day suggested period - you can still get covid within Thailand after this, thus it needs to be for the entire period of stay. 

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23 minutes ago, PatrickC said:

There is plenty of clarity. Any Thai embassy in the world will confirm it needs to cover the full period of your stay.

If there is any lack of clarity it is posters here who don't read the embassy's web sites or who have not spoken to them.

As for how many days you arrive on - who is actually going to leave after that? Everyone is going to get an extension. Thus it is the period of your intended stay, not the period of your initial entry.

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When you apply for the entry-Visa, how can the Thai Embassy check the 'full period of your intended stay'?  They can only go by the permission to stay, that your Visa application will provide you.

And showing them a return-ticket at the end of the permission to stay for your Visa application, that would determine your 'period of stay'.

Once in country it is very unlikely that a local Immigration office where you apply for an extension of stay, would require you to show covid-19 insurance.  And rightfully so, because having been 30, 60 or 90 days in country 'proves' that you are covid-free and are not different than anybody else staying in Thailand.

 

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21 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

When you apply for the entry-Visa, how can the Thai Embassy check the 'full period of your intended stay'?  They can only go by the permission to stay, that your Visa application will provide you.

And showing them a return-ticket at the end of the permission to stay for your Visa application, that would determine your 'period of stay'.

Once in country it is very unlikely that a local Immigration office where you apply for an extension of stay, would require you to show covid-19 insurance.  And rightfully so, because having been 30, 60 or 90 days in country 'proves' that you are covid-free and are not different than anybody else staying in Thailand.

 

 

This is over complicating the issue. Just take the insurance out for 1 year and then you are covered for covid until it is over. They may well make it compulsory for extensions anyway. Can't hurt to have it. I'm in ASQ and keeping mine, even though I can cancel, in case I need it again.

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9 minutes ago, PatrickC said:

This is over complicating the issue. Just take the insurance out for 1 year and then you are covered for covid until it is over. They may well make it compulsory for extensions anyway. Can't hurt to have it. I'm in ASQ and keeping mine, even though I can cancel, in case I need it again.

No, it is not 'over complicating the issue'.  It is simple common sense.

Why pay for covid-19 insurance for a full year when you can limit it to the permission to stay of the Visa you are applying for?

Especially since after 30-days in-country, there is no difference anymore between you and anybody else already residing in Thailand.

Of course, if you WANT to be covered for a full-year, nobody will object you doing so.

But I do not buy the argument that you need insurance when already longer than 30 days in Thailand.  If that argument goes, EVERYBODY residing in Thailand should have that mandatory insurance.

 

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9 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

No, it is not 'over complicating the issue'.  It is simple common sense.

Why pay for covid-19 insurance for a full year when you can limit it to the permission to stay of the Visa you are applying for?

Especially since after 30-days in-country, there is no difference anymore between you and anybody else already residing in Thailand.

Of course, if you WANT to be covered for a full-year, nobody will object you doing so.

But I do not buy the argument that you need insurance when already longer than 30 days in Thailand.  If that argument goes, EVERYBODY residing in Thailand should have that mandatory insurance.

 

 

Common sense is subjective.

 

You clearly don't want to pay for insurance for the entire year. However I simply don't care - I'm happy to pay for it and be done with it. If you pay the full year you are covered, including if they make it mandatory for those residing in Thailand for extensions (possible).

 

Your original post said there was no clarity around time periods. There is plenty of clarity - length of intended stay. If you want to turn yourself in circles trying to work out the cheapest way to satisfy the authorities requirements, that is up to you.

 

Many people are now in ASQ, all of whom have had to have the insurance (including me) so it is clearly not that complicated. Just take it for 1 year, print the certificate, and you are done.

 

BTW most insurance policies can be cancelled part way for a pro rata refund if you read the Ts&Cs, so if you want to cancel after a month or 2 and get a refund, you can.

 

And there will be a difference between you and those already residing in Thailand - you'll have better insurance which you can use if you happen to get covid. I'm keeping mine for that reason. You never know what might happen.

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6 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

Is it confirmed somewhere that on re-entering Thailand you need to have covid-19 insurance

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there are various Thai embassy websites that state that all non Thai people must have insurance or documentation proving equivalent coverage (the equivalent coverage applies mostly to diplomats and other special cases)

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39 minutes ago, PatrickC said:

 

Common sense is subjective.

 

You clearly don't want to pay for insurance for the entire year. However I simply don't care - I'm happy to pay for it and be done with it. If you pay the full year you are covered, including if they make it mandatory for those residing in Thailand for extensions (possible).

 

Your original post said there was no clarity around time periods. There is plenty of clarity - length of intended stay. If you want to turn yourself in circles trying to work out the cheapest way to satisfy the authorities requirements, that is up to you.

 

Many people are now in ASQ, all of whom have had to have the insurance (including me) so it is clearly not that complicated. Just take it for 1 year, print the certificate, and you are done.

 

BTW most insurance policies can be cancelled part way for a pro rata refund if you read the Ts&Cs, so if you want to cancel after a month or 2 and get a refund, you can.

 

And there will be a difference between you and those already residing in Thailand - you'll have better insurance which you can use if you happen to get covid. I'm keeping mine for that reason. You never know what might happen.

 

To add to the above - Shouldn’t we all have insurance cover when in Thailand anyway?

 

Unless of course someone want to rely on a ‘Go fund me’ appeal when they fall off the back of a motorcycle or slip in the shower. 

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

To add to the above - Shouldn’t we all have insurance cover when in Thailand anyway?

 

Unless of course someone want to rely on a ‘Go fund me’ appeal when they fall off the back of a motorcycle or slip in the shower.

Some overall health-insurance policies also provide covid-19 coverage.

And you can buy relatively cheap specific covid-19 insurance when in Thailand.

 

I am residing in Thailand and my long-term travel-insurance policy does NOT cover it.

But I do not see the necessity for subscribing to such a policy given the fact that Thailand is virtually covid-free.  Of course everybody is free to subscribe to such covid-19 insurance if they think it useful for their situation.

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1 minute ago, Peter Denis said:
37 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

To add to the above - Shouldn’t we all have insurance cover when in Thailand anyway?

 

Unless of course someone want to rely on a ‘Go fund me’ appeal when they fall off the back of a motorcycle or slip in the shower.

Some overall health-insurance policies also provide covid-19 coverage.

And you can buy relatively cheap specific covid-19 insurance when in Thailand.

 

I am residing in Thailand and my long-term travel-insurance policy does NOT cover it.

But I do not see the necessity for subscribing to such a policy given the fact that Thailand is virtually covid-free.  Of course everybody is free to subscribe to such covid-19 insurance if they think it useful for their situation.

 

The ‘long term’ health policy I was in the process of choosing anyway (and had already chosen for my Wife and Son) included Covid-19 cover. 

 

This policy also covers international health care (except USA). But isn’t travel insurance (i.e. doesn’t work for lost baggage, trip cancellation etc). 

 

The Covid-19 cover (and certificate) was simply something expected of any policy I would have chosen. 

 

I’m not sure that travel insurance would be valid for someone living in Thailand for 6 months at a time etc (although policies vary).

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3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

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I’m not sure that travel insurance would be valid for someone living in Thailand for 6 months at a time etc (although policies vary).

In my case - being fully covered health-care wise at no cost in my home-country - travel-insurance which includes both unlimited health-insurance as well as unlimited repatriation coverage, is my best option.

My home-country issued travel-insurance policy covers any trip up to 6 months (after which I do need to be back in my home-country for 2 weeks, in order to be eligible for my next 6 month trip).

Note: For the 'overflow' months (I stay longer than 6 months in Thailand) I make use of on-the-fly travel-insurance.

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