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6 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

You do understand that chimpanzees are a different species to humans, so what infects them is less likely to infect us, don't you?

Really! you do understand we are human beings that have immune systems, don't you?

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After watching the video on youtube by Dr Carrie Madej named 'Urgent Information on Covid Vaccine" and just recently hearing that the pharmaceutical companies are pushing for a new law that anyone who

Yes....but I want the forehead sticker that certifies me as a "Covid-Free-Farang" and gives me a 30% discount on Thai Airways flights

tough choice coming up for many. for those of you saying you will not take a vaccine. i hope you plan on never really travelling anywhere ever again.   without a *vaccine* your movement will

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The Health Secretary says he expects frontline health workers will be the first to benefit from any successful COVID-19 vaccine.

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On what he predicts for the future for COVID-19

I'd be surprised if we're still wearing masks and 6-feet distancing in two or three years. I think the most likely outcome is that we'll eventually get to herd immunity. The best way to get to herd immunity is through a vaccine and some certain populations who have already been exposed or will be exposed.

And then the expectation I have is that this virus will actually become the next common cold coronavirus. What we don't know with these common cold coronaviruses is if they went through a similar transition period.

So, say something like OC43, which is a common cold coronavirus that was originally from cows. It's been historically reported that there was an outbreak associated with the transition of this virus from cows to humans that was very severe disease, and then after a few years, the virus became just the common cold. So in three to five years it may be that you're still getting COVID-19 in certain populations of people or every few years, but the expectation is hopefully that it'll just be a common cold and it's something that we can just each deal with and it won't lead to hospitalization and the shutting down of society.

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/09/900490301/covid-19-may-never-go-away-with-or-without-a-vaccine?t=1596994583405

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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-further-boosts-uk-vaccine-manufacturing-capacity

 

Press release

Government further boosts UK vaccine manufacturing capacity

Pharmaceutical and biotech organisation Wockhardt will carry out the crucial 'fill and finish' stage of the vaccine manufacturing process.

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4 hours ago, runamok27 said:

Given that vaccines are never 100% effective and flu vaccines are around 50% effective I don't see how a vaccine will change much with regards to international travel. A return to normalcy is impossible with a 50% effective vaccine. The world population is well and truly terrified of this virus so I don't think a vaccine will do nearly as much as people think. People are putting way too much importance on a vaccine when, after a vaccine is available, as soon as the news reports of vaccinated people getting the virus and giving the virus to others, and it will, what then? This is not even throwing in a mutation to the virus that makes all of the current vaccines useless. 

I don't agree with you. Herd immunity gained from both the already infected and the vaccinated eventually means the pandemic phase of the virus is over and with that the extreme measures would be over as well. The virus stays with us but becomes normalized. 

 

This clip discusses the benefit of a vaccine with at least 50 percent effectiveness:

 

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I don't believe in vaccination.

Refused my first vaccination (TB) aged 13, only had one since then.

Been everywhere in the world, caught nothing worth worrying about.

Hardly ever catch flu, but oddly my vaccinated friends seem to often catch it.

Have you ever wondered what that crater shaped scar on you arm is? That is from a small pox vaccine.

Never met anyone who didn’t have a small pox scar.

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Just now, Mama Noodle said:
Just now, Onrai said:

Never met anyone who didn’t have a small pox scar.

 

I don't have a small pox scar. 

1958 - 59 ??

 

Varies by country, and this for western countries; if you were born in this year or after you have  a good chance of not having it as it stopped being mandatory in a number of western countries.

 

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flu vaccines are around 50% effective I don't see how a vaccine will change much with regards to international travel. A return to normalcy is impossible with a 50% effective vaccine

 

Flu vaccines are distinctly different than other vaccinations. As regards all the ear-blather about flu vaccines on this thread. It is a <deleted> shoot, and always has been with the flu. They identify what they think might be the most dangerous new strain of flu and make a vaccine based on it. Many times another strain, or mutation of flu turns out to be the one that rolls across the world in flu season and the vaccine is not effective. That is how human influenza viruses work. A doctor or health professional should have explained all this, pre vaccination. Yet posters seem oblivious; fascinating. Especially those who claim they work in the health field. 🤔 

 

In the future if you want to travel, very likely will have to have a vaccination, a documented one. then have a preflight test and likely post flight. For all the people who claim they are not going to get a vaccination. That leaves them either stuck in Thailand, or out of Thailand, exactly where they are now. Better get used to it.  

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8 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

1958 - 59 ??


Way later. I’ve had more vaccinations than I care to remember, even got an anthrax one, malaria meds etc, but no smallpox scar. 

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Just now, Mama Noodle said:

Way later. I’ve had more vaccinations than I care to remember, even got an anthrax one, malaria meds etc, but no smallpox scar. 

I just base it on personal, what would they say here, anecdotal family info. My sister was born in 56, she had the smallpox, required (or recommended). I was born in 59, not required for me. And that went for people I went to school with, we all did not have the smallpox. Conversely my sister friends from her same grade, all did.

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11 hours ago, DrTuner said:

I don't really get why people are after Old Bill. He got pussy-whipped by Melissa, she's the mastermind behind the vaccine schemes. Look at her.

I think her name is Melinda, but I think her's his own man.

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5 hours ago, gearbox said:

If the vaccines are proven to work, I think it is likely that a vaccination certificate would be required for any new visas, renewals and extensions.

I agree that it will likely be a requirement for extensions of all type and entrance into Thailand. Look at how efficiently they've done quarantine. Requiring vaccination will be easy.

If your against vaccination but want to stay in Thailand, you need to get over your fears.

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1 hour ago, Onrai said:

Have you ever wondered what that crater shaped scar on you arm is? That is from a small pox vaccine.

Never met anyone who didn’t have a small pox scar.

I don't have one.

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