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On 8/12/2020 at 1:51 AM, GinBoy2 said:

When a vaccine becomes available, just get your head outta your ass and get vaccinated for Gods sake. If not for you, your kids and grandkids! 

I'm hoping my kids and grand-kids will be as naturally resistant to disease as I.

(cue the 'you only survived because everyone else is vaccinated' crowd) 

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After watching the video on youtube by Dr Carrie Madej named 'Urgent Information on Covid Vaccine" and just recently hearing that the pharmaceutical companies are pushing for a new law that anyone who

Yes....but I want the forehead sticker that certifies me as a "Covid-Free-Farang" and gives me a 30% discount on Thai Airways flights

tough choice coming up for many. for those of you saying you will not take a vaccine. i hope you plan on never really travelling anywhere ever again.   without a *vaccine* your movement will

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10 hours ago, elliss said:

   

    A vaccine , that has proven too be effective , against covid-19 .?

     What are the side effects ?. 

    It will be at least  two years, before we know , the Scientific results ..

 

So your answer is no - I'll stall. Its like I can't run the race because I can't tie my shoes, plus expect a participation trophy.

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On 8/13/2020 at 7:20 AM, Tounge Thaied said:

Key wording here. This efficacy rate is only applicable when they able to accurately match the vaccine to each seasonal strain. In other words, they can achieve 40-60% but only when they get the match right. And in fact, when you take the error rate of correctly matching the strain, the overall efficacy of anyone receiving a benefit drops to about 33%. What is even more important to consider is the attempt at the SARS 1 vaccine... which has not been successful at all. In fact, they gave up on attempting to produce this vaccine. 

So your saying no and looking for reasons. 

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On 8/13/2020 at 6:20 AM, aussiexpat said:

Just read on CDC website: 

"...recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine."

 

This means that half the people vaccinated get the flu anyway! Why would a brand new vaccine for Covid be any more successful than the seasonal flu vaccines they've been working on for the last 50 years? When you the weigh up the risk of unknown side effects, I'll only get it when Thais mandate it for coming in.

 

I get the flu vaccine as it helps me and those I come in contact with. It was mandated to work in a hospital in the US as I expect the Covid vaccine will be. In fact they had shot team nurses running the halls and checking everyone working. No proof and you needed to roll up your sleeve. 

We know flu strains mutate rapidly and because the flu vaccine in older technology and requires longer to develop hitting the right strain is not easy. That said even a 40-60% effectiveness significantly reduces illness and the risk of spreading.

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1 hour ago, checkered flag said:

I get the flu vaccine as it helps me and those I come in contact with.

How do you know it helps? do you not have a functioning immune system?

It's been over 50 years since I had flu and I take no drugs produced by the companies you work for nor do I intend to.

Your slanted view is obviously driven by your source of income IMO. 🙂 

From what I have read people that took the flu vaccine lowered their resistance to Covid 19, is the warning label wrong?

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2 minutes ago, CGW said:

How do you know it helps? do you not have a functioning immune system?

It's been over 50 years since I had flu and I take no drugs produced by the companies you work for nor do I intend to.

Your slanted view is obviously driven by your source of income IMO. 🙂 

From what I have read people that took the flu vaccine lowered their resistance to Covid 19, is the warning label wrong?

? What are you talking about? Go back and drink you 6 pack.

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5 minutes ago, CGW said:

From what I have read people that took the flu vaccine lowered their resistance to Covid 19

 

 

Interesting... I’ve not read or seen that information anywhere. IF true it could explain a lot if those nations with a high incidence of Covid-19 deaths and severe illness are also those nations with a high incidence of Flu Vaccine. 

 

Any reliable source CGW ????

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9 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

? What are you talking about? Go back and drink you 6 pack.

Admirable response :thumbsup:

$ first eh

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10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Any reliable source CGW ????

What is considered a reliable source, who is determining the "truth" 🙂

I posted information on this forum way back about this, there were warnings stating that the flu vaccine reduced resistance to covid, these were official, from the manufacturer, sure they are still available.

A search will doubtless bring them up - eventually, but as we are unable to filter our own information google has heavily "censored" what is called "fake" news!

A quick search with google revels nothing, if I use another search engine (Duckduck) there is a lot of information, this being the first, https://doctormurray.com/does-the-flu-shot-increase-covid-19-risk/ is this reliable, depends if you consider a Doctor is telling the truth or if you want to believe censored results, major advertisers have a huge influence on results, there is a lot of true information out there but getting harder to find!

If people were able to put aside their "cognitive dissonance" for a period and look at facts?

The usual suspects, those in the industry will no doubt be on the "attack" now 🙂

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8 hours ago, checkered flag said:

? What are you talking about? Go back and drink you 6 pack.

 

  Tell us about yourself , Cf . 

    Your professional status , or just another Google Quack .

     We have so many , on TV forums , becomes so boring ..

 

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11 hours ago, checkered flag said:

So your answer is no - I'll stall. Its like I can't run the race because I can't tie my shoes, plus expect a participation trophy.

 

 Should the vaccine , cause undesirable affects to my health and well-being .

   I should be able to sue the manufacturer , yes ?. 

    

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11 hours ago, elliss said:

 

  Tell us about yourself , Cf . 

    Your professional status , or just another Google Quack .

     We have so many , on TV forums , becomes so boring ..

 

I would ask you the same. But I don't expect anything in you life history,

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