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4 hours ago, CGW said:

Knowing what some of the ingredients are in a vaccine, personally I can't see how anyone could be so desperate, MCR-5 being just one of the delightful ingredients.

Although some vaccines may use cells from the MCR-5 line, by no means all of them do. Just to take one example, the Oxford University ChAdOx1 candidate vaccine is made from a weakened chimpanzee adenovirus (cold virus) that has been genetically changed so that it is impossible for it to grow in humans, into which they splice a part of the genetic code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein. So no human cells (let alone MCR-5) are involved.

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After watching the video on youtube by Dr Carrie Madej named 'Urgent Information on Covid Vaccine" and just recently hearing that the pharmaceutical companies are pushing for a new law that anyone who

Yes....but I want the forehead sticker that certifies me as a "Covid-Free-Farang" and gives me a 30% discount on Thai Airways flights

tough choice coming up for many. for those of you saying you will not take a vaccine. i hope you plan on never really travelling anywhere ever again.   without a *vaccine* your movement will

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A vaccine requirement for international travel is not really unreasonable. It exists for other things in many countries such as for yellow fever if you've traveled to certain countries. 

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10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sounds like more conspiracy theory garbage. 

You are stupid? Why is this a conspiracy theory?!

 

If it is anything, it is a conspiracy fact

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3 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I'll wait until I've read the full published results of the phase 3 trials before deciding.

And I should just add that if there is eventually a properly-licensed vaccine for which the published results convincingly establish both safety and efficacy (and it's available here) then I will take it.

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16 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

You mention the vaccine will only be 50-60% effective.

Where does that come from?

Are you a doctor?

 

There's several hundred vaccines in tests, my guess (hope) is that many will be much effective at the 99% level.

Well as far as I know there aren't any Vaccine's that are 99% effective the best being Measles Vaccination at 97%

They don't know yet how effective a Vaccine would be as it will take years of testing but it's not expected to be over 75% but probably less.
My point being that we shouldn't expect instant immunity because we take the Vaccine.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/coronavirus-vaccine-dr-fauci-says-chances-of-it-being-highly-effective-is-not-great.html

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5 minutes ago, KohKood said:

You are stupid? Why is this a conspiracy theory?!

 

If it is anything, it is a conspiracy fact

Goodbye. 

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Vaccines for this virus which seem to be coming with widespread distribution sometime next year are neither a panacea or the end of human freedom and civilization. 

It will help eventually end the pandemic but not the virus. 

 

I say vaccines plural because there are multiple good candidates in development and also vaccine nationalism.

 

The first one widely released probably won't end up being the best one. 

 

Sounds messy? I guess it is. 

 

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24 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Although some vaccines may use cells from the MCR-5 line, by no means all of them do. Just to take one example, the Oxford University ChAdOx1 candidate vaccine is made from a weakened chimpanzee adenovirus (cold virus) that has been genetically changed so that it is impossible for it to grow in humans, into which they splice a part of the genetic code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein. So no human cells (let alone MCR-5) are involved.

Thats reassuring! :shock1:

"weakened chimpanzee adenovirus (cold virus) that has been genetically changed"

& people believe it is ok to inject this into their bodies! 🤔

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26 minutes ago, kokopelli said:

At 80+ yo I would think a covid vaccine would be of utmost importance?  Oh, I am 80 and would be first in line for an effective vaccine.

ok ...   you give it a shot and let me know how it goes    !

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5 hours ago, ezzra said:

it will probably mandatory to be vaccinated whether you like it or not, i believe that people who will refuse vaccination will have problems in maintaining normal lifestyle for the benefits of society as a whole nevermind that you will be branded as a selfish and an incompetent person...

It should be about the easiest thing in the world to give bung the nurse to not give you the vaccine as was mentioned earlier, but should pay more than 500Bt whether the nurse is a ladyboy or not.

 

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20 minutes ago, CGW said:

Thats reassuring! :shock1:

"weakened chimpanzee adenovirus (cold virus) that has been genetically changed"

& people believe it is ok to inject this into their bodies! 🤔

You do understand that chimpanzees are a different species to humans, so what infects them is less likely to infect us, don't you?

 

This particular vaccine construct was chosen precisely because it can't cause an infection in humans - so far it has been used in clinical trials of vaccines for at least ten different diseases involving thousands of people over a period of around a decade and it has never been found to cause any serious side effects. Its safety record is firmly established.

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