TAT deputy governor dashes hopes of 2020 reopening for Thailand’s international borders

[John CS]

50 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

Absolutely. But Thais don;t stand up and say "No more". Love it how European folk say F***k the gov we do what we want!

Government should always be held in contempt, they serve the people and should protect minorities,

They will be held to account & truth will always out, non elected Global corporate bodies and individual billionaires should also be purged from influence

This goes for UN, WHO , Gated, Soros trying a one size fits all strategies on countries, these people do not have citizens interests, they are interested in power, control and are generally psychopathic

[DirtyHarry55]

I think they are hoping COVID19 will go away soon but it probably won't ever go away.

Eventually COVID19 will become less lethal as we develop immunity but we exposure to it.

The 2 Trillion they borrowed will soon be gone then what? Borrow more?

Heard there's a plan to replace Tourism revenue with Medical Marijuana revenue

but can't see them generating that much revenue selling weed and then probably

only for a select few.

 

Edited August 10, 2020 by DirtyHarry55

[Saint Nick]

8 minutes ago, Sharp said:

Nailed it !

If by "nailed it" you mean "sniffed the bathsalt"!

[ChaiyaTH]

5 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

This will be a disaster for everyone. Not one person will NOT be affected. This is serious, folks.

I doubled up in biz since COVID. Many opportunities now. Just depends what biz your in.

Anyway to be realistic around 25% will be affected. 

Edited August 10, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[ChouDoufu]

51 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

The flu is still 30-50 times more deadly than covid-19,remember the 1918 pandemic? 

 

as we all know, seasonal flu is nothing like a pandemic flu, and none of the bruhs claiming "it's just da flu, mon" are making that mistake.  they're claiming covid19 is little more than the annual flu, so let's get out there and party!

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/basics/about.html

 

webmd says "The number of people who die each year from flu-related causes in the U.S. is 8,200 to 20,000"

 

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/qa/how-many-people-die-from-the-flu-each-year-in-the-us#:~:text=The number of people who die each year,causes in the U.S. is 3%2C000 to 49%2C000.

 

we've lost 160k in under six months.

 

well, it is what it is.

 

 

 

Edited August 10, 2020 by ChouDoufu

[NanLaew]

7 hours ago, pookondee said:

I didnt think any other country would ever match the sheer stupidity, manic paranoia and absolute dictatorial nanny state abuse of its "sheeple" than that of my own home country.

 

Amazing Thailand: quickly looking like the lost identical twin of Australia.

Thailand doesn't have Covid-19 clusters and lock downs whereas Australia...

 

[ChaiyaTH]

Just now, ChouDoufu said:

 

as we all know, seasonal flu is nothing like a pandemic flu, and none of the bruhs claiming "it's just da flu, mon" are making that mistake.  they're claiming covid19 is little more than the annual flu

Point and problem is that the tests do general corona, a virus existing with the Dutch since the 80s. Thus many will get positive result with even a cold.

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, Blumpie said:

Have you been sniffing rocks?  

The flu transforms way faster than this coronavirus.  Scientists are extremely confident that this vaccine will eradicate it if it does work.

For crying out loud, stop reading prison planet dot com.  Jeez, LOL!  

He does have a point which you highlighted which is the flu is a killer and asked if the will be annual lockdowns to fight the flu virus?If not then what about all those that die from the flu are they not worth saving? 

[simola]

6 hours ago, ukrules said:

I think you're in for a surprise, this is going to be pretty widespread until the disease goes away.

It’s not going away. 

[DefaultName]

IF they can keep the borders closed until a vaccine can be produced and widely distributed, Thailand's strategy will be proved right.

 

Opening the borders prior to a vaccine is basically trading Thai lives for tourist cash.

[NanLaew]

10 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

...general corona, a virus existing with the Dutch since the 80s ...

Huh?

[ChouDoufu]

8 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Point and problem is that the tests do general corona, a virus existing with the Dutch since the 80s. Thus many will get positive result with even a cold.

there are a number of different tests, with different procedures.

would you have a link to an article from a reliable source with this information?

 

 

[Bangkocker]

25 minutes ago, Sharp said:

Nailed it !

Huh  - well it looks like many here have lost possession of their faculties. Spanish flu, It's just the flu, world wide conspiracy, not as serious as anyone is claiming, Bill Gates stands to win and caused this, don't have the vaccine, as it contains nano particles and your tool will drop off OMG. Bye now. Go take a big deep breath and a stiff whisky everyone. Don't worry your darling will wait for you and remain faithful like she promised (if you keep paying her the monthly stipend) Sheesh !!

Edited August 10, 2020 by Bangkocker

[FarFlungFalang]

12 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

as we all know, seasonal flu is nothing like a pandemic flu, and none of the bruhs claiming "it's just da flu, mon" are making that mistake.  they're claiming covid19 is little more than the annual flu, so let's get out there and party!

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/basics/about.html

That's why I compared this covid-19 pandemic to the 1918 flu pandemic which seems to have had a much more devastating outcome and my guess is the flu is 30-50 times more deadly. 

[ChouDoufu]

3 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

That's why I compared this covid-19 pandemic to the 1918 flu pandemic which seems to have had a much more devastating outcome and my guess is the flu is 30-50 times more deadly. 

 

got it.  it's deadlier than the annual flu.  like a lot.  3-20k/year in the usa.  and the spanish flu was even deadlier.  like a lot.  675k total in the usa.

covid19 is somewhere in the middle, for now.  160k in six months is not enough to take it seriously?  let's see after the second wave hits, perhaps the leader of the free world will stop saying it'll magically just disappear.

 

 

 

 

[Burma Bill]

[KarenBravo]

There is a far worse and more insidious disease going around than Covid-19.

It doesn't have a name yet, but, symptoms include:-

 

Denying science.

Promotion of conspiracy theories.

Making false equivalencies (flu vs covid).

Denying the efficacy of proven methods of fighting the virus (masks, distancing, testing and tracing).

It seems to degrade the ability of people it infects to critical thinking and it may just lower IQ.

It seems to be spreading fast judging by the posts on this forum.

Edited August 10, 2020 by KarenBravo

[NightSky]

4 hours ago, Yinn said:

Sorry Mr USA, no thankyou. We have no infection local case 75 days already. We beat covid, not want be same USA.

Schools open, factorys open, plaza open, inside restaurants, weddings, etc etc. We live again. 

 

Only thing is border not open. Why we want this people come in? Argue about mask, anti vax, anti social distance, anti tracing app. Idiots. 

 

More people die your country every 4 hour than TOTAL Thailand.

 

Other countrys start lockdown again. Because they stupid. Open before they control. 

 

I loose money because covid. I not angry thai government. (About covid). 

 

But I angry so much other countrys covIDIOTS, maskholes, anti vaxxer loons. 

 

Fighting each other black and white, lefty and hard right etc etc. 

 

 

Who pay?

 

Like Spain? Open two week, must close again.

 

 

 

Thai should die because USA selfish guy want holiday? Pffft.

Thailand be remembered for 

Thailand ranked highest in a global survey for its effective handling of Covid-19 and recovery from the crisis. The Global Covid-19 Index (GCI), published yesterday (July 28), gave Thailand an index score of 82.06, putting it on top of the global chart as an example of best practices in tackling the dreaded virus.

Link 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30392083

 

USA remembered for? How many want go USA for holiday now? High covid, riot and looting, police killing, mass shooting etc etc

 

Good. 40 million every year to many. 

Damage nature to much. 

 

I be so so happy if covid finish tomorrow in the world same thailand. Thailand win covid in 5 weeks. 

 

Because 99% people follow the rule. If other countrys 30% refuse the rule, covid will win, sure. Forever.

I not want this selfish people come thailand for holiday. For what? Spread = close factorys, restaurants, plaza, schools etc etc again? 

 

Nobody starving Thailand. We have lot food. We help each other.

 

i have good idea. Everyone in USA wear mask, wash hands, social distance, tracing app, lockdown 5 weeks. You be control covid. 

THEN you be welcome thailand. We not want your virus. For what?

 

Many TVF member anti mask, anti vax, anti tracing app, anti social distance. I not want foreigner with selfish behavior now. Refuse listen. Care themself. One guy say he will pay the nurse throw away vaccine, not take it. 

For what?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A few good points in all this but a lot of rehashed social media garbage too. You are starting to sound more like the nationalistic paranoids dictatorship of Thailand 

 

i wonder how many of those countries you criticise that you’ve actually visited in person? 

 

..the freedoms in Europe and USA are equal for immigrants and much more equal than in nationalist Thailand.

 

..what gives you the right or anyone else to say who gets to see their wife and kids and who doesn’t.?

[peter48]

I cannot believe it. They are going to forego the pent up demand from Fa-rang & Asian Tourists desperate to enjoy 'amazing Thailand', indeed there was an 'ad' on TV in UK the other day for Thailand. The economic misery this will inflict is beyond belief given it is Thailand's main earner. France,Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal are open to tourists & Brits, Germans, Dutch, Danes and Scandinavians  are desperate to get abroad. I cannot believe Thailand would do this to its nation. 

 

Lets hope the vaccinations come soon ( they are in their  third stage at Oxford university & being tested in UK, SA & Brazil  & its looking good).

 

Surely Vietnam is open? 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

19 hours ago, Dukeleto said:

 An additional levy placed on tourists of say $50 per head and simply open Thailand back up completely without quarantine and without a ridiculous medical insurance. With revenues from tourism and the additional levy they would still be making heaps of money, people back to work and The medical community become World experts at treating the virus. Make treatment of All those infected with the virus 100% free. 

 

Thailand doesn't have the medical personnel or infrastructure to handle what would become widespread CV infections under your notion, and all the resulting sick and dead that would occur from that... no matter what kind of entry fee you envision charging.

 

Such a place would need vastly more doctors and nurses trained in emergency medicine and intensive care than the country has now -- apart from lacking the necessary facilities, equipment, support services to handle such a thing.

 

And then of course, the government would get blamed for allowing dirty foreigners to come into the country willy-nilly and start infecting and killing Thai locals.  That's simply not viable here.

 

In short, you're dreaming an unrealistic nightmare.

 

 

[NightSky]

1 minute ago, KarenBravo said:

There is a far worse and insidious disease going around than Covid-19.

It doesn't have a name yet, but, symptoms include:-

 

Denying science.

Promotion of conspiracy theories.

Making false equivalencies (flu vs covid).

Denying the efficacy of proven methods of fighting the virus (masks, distancing, testing and tracing).

It seems to degrade the ability of people it infects to critical thinking and it may just lower IQ.

It seems to be spreading fast judging by the posts on this forum.

I think you refer to social media BS disease 

[FritsSikkink]

7 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

If they're not letting tourists in, then I guess that the 26th Sept. deadline for stranded tourists has to be extended as well.

I'm waiting for immigration to say 2020 will be aborted, and see you again in 2021 ????

They are letting tourists out so why extend the deadline.

[newcomer71]

7 hours ago, ukrules said:

I think you're in for a surprise, this is going to be pretty widespread until the disease goes away.

Viruses does not simply "goes away"... And only psychotic paranoids control freak like the f@#@#g junta at the power can overreact like this. They're not even able to bring back their nationals from abroad, not to mention foreigner with families and/or with properties and LIFE there... 

[FarFlungFalang]

6 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

There is a far worse and more insidious disease going around than Covid-19.

It doesn't have a name yet, but, symptoms include:-

 

Denying science.

Promotion of conspiracy theories.

Making false equivalencies (flu vs covid).

Denying the efficacy of proven methods of fighting the virus (masks, distancing, testing and tracing).

It seems to degrade the ability of people it infects to critical thinking and it may just lower IQ.

It seems to be spreading fast judging by the posts on this forum.

As can be seen in the vid I posted above an eminent scientist makes several flu vs covid equivalencies.Can you post some of the results of studies that show that actually stop the virus or are they just methods of fighting the virus to delay the inevitable as is suggested by the second waves currently doing the rounds at the moment.How long are we going to stay in lockdown mode?   

[FarFlungFalang]

8 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

They are letting tourists out so why extend the deadline.

For those of us who have made a home here and are being told to leave as our visas have expired and used our 60 extensions and wish to stay with our families.

[simola]

5 hours ago, Yinn said:

Sorry Mr USA, no thankyou. We have no infection local case 75 days already. We beat covid, not want be same USA.

Schools open, factorys open, plaza open, inside restaurants, weddings, etc etc. We live again. 

 

Only thing is border not open. Why we want this people come in? Argue about mask, anti vax, anti social distance, anti tracing app. Idiots. 

 

More people die your country every 4 hour than TOTAL Thailand.

 

Other countrys start lockdown again. Because they stupid. Open before they control. 

 

I loose money because covid. I not angry thai government. (About covid). 

 

But I angry so much other countrys covIDIOTS, maskholes, anti vaxxer loons. 

 

Fighting each other black and white, lefty and hard right etc etc. 

 

 

Who pay?

 

Like Spain? Open two week, must close again.

 

 

 

Thai should die because USA selfish guy want holiday? Pffft.

Thailand be remembered for 

Thailand ranked highest in a global survey for its effective handling of Covid-19 and recovery from the crisis. The Global Covid-19 Index (GCI), published yesterday (July 28), gave Thailand an index score of 82.06, putting it on top of the global chart as an example of best practices in tackling the dreaded virus.

Link 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30392083

 

USA remembered for? How many want go USA for holiday now? High covid, riot and looting, police killing, mass shooting etc etc

 

Good. 40 million every year to many. 

Damage nature to much. 

 

I be so so happy if covid finish tomorrow in the world same thailand. Thailand win covid in 5 weeks. 

 

Because 99% people follow the rule. If other countrys 30% refuse the rule, covid will win, sure. Forever.

I not want this selfish people come thailand for holiday. For what? Spread = close factorys, restaurants, plaza, schools etc etc again? 

 

Nobody starving Thailand. We have lot food. We help each other.

 

i have good idea. Everyone in USA wear mask, wash hands, social distance, tracing app, lockdown 5 weeks. You be control covid. 

THEN you be welcome thailand. We not want your virus. For what?

 

Many TVF member anti mask, anti vax, anti tracing app, anti social distance. I not want foreigner with selfish behavior now. Refuse listen. Care themself. One guy say he will pay the nurse throw away vaccine, not take it. 

For what?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry but Thailand haven’t beaten Covid19. The virus will not be cured by a vaccine (if there is one). It’s only a matter of time before it returns. It’s probably never left but is currently asymptomatic. The world has to learn to live with it. 

[androokery]

Here's a novel - and unrealistic - idea: start by admitting tourists into to the country that are less likely to be a burden to the medical facilities. The first batch of tourists to be let in could be those under 60 years old and with a Body Mass Index of less than 28. Two metrics that are quite easy to check. These people can still be carriers though, but to a much smaller extent than the ones who get really sick.  

 

It would of course be very unfair to body builders???? 

[XB12X]

7 hours ago, madmen said:

Good move Thailand. I predict border opening mid 2021 and only for low risk countries and totally unrestricted travel mid 2022 or later if ever.. 

If ever. Some overstatement.

[DrTuner]

What, TAT going gloomy? It's the end of the times fellas.

[KarenBravo]

6 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

What, TAT going gloomy? It's the end of the times fellas.

Yup, you can't inflate the number zero.