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UK COVID-19 daily death count could be scrapped: Telegraph

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4 minutes ago, scammed said:

i have to agree with you on this one, it takes a great man to snap out of it

and admit his modus operandi was a fallacy

Britain has done excellent work in reviewing its death count repeatedly. Much better than Germany. Very transparent from the UK and very sensible work.

 

I don't think over counting deaths the way European countries are doing is good thing. It means we do not know the true extent of this illness' danger. It distorts the figures.

 

The reason why countries are counting this way is because of WHO guidelines. But many countries interpret it differently.

 

The difficulty is that to do an autopsy on every single patient who died with a positive Covid 19 test  is not something doctors wanted to do. They were concerned about dangers to them. It is time consuming. It is costly. However in many cases that would be the only certain way to determine if the patient actually died of Covid 19 or not.

 

Obviously what countries like Thailand are doing is also wrong and even worse, to basically count hardly anyone as having died of Covid 19 since they do not test 99% of the population.

 

The problem in South East Asian countries most do not have the resources to test. The authorities in Indonesia have therefore taken issue with the WHO methodology in counting the death rate and have said that potential patients, not yet tested, should be included in the equation. The reason being that by including them, though not tested yet but suspected, this would reduce Indonesia's fatality rate from 8% to 3%.

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/coronavirus-indonesia-disputes-whos-method-of-counting-the-countrys-fatality-rate

 

Unfortunately  many countries seem to have great problems in getting accurate death figures, so whatever is done to improve the accuracy is a good thing. Health authorities and ministers should take a cue from the UK government in this regard.

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

Britain paused its daily update of the death toll last month and the government ordered a review into how Public Health England reports coronavirus deaths, after academics said the daily figures may include people who died of other causes.

 


I would be inclined to agree with the academics.
 

There were occasions when readers of U.K. newspaper articles on coronavirus would say in the “readers’ comments” section at the bottom of the article that when one of their relatives died in a hospital, a decision had to be made about what to put on the death certificate. The relatives were told that if they agreed that coronavirus was the cause of death, the body could be released quickly for the funeral.
 

If however the relatives felt that death was caused by other reasons, the body would have to go into storage and that it might be weeks or even months before a final decision on cause of death could be made. 

 

Naturally, distressed relatives wanted to have a funeral as soon as possible and so were more likely to agree that coronavirus, rather than heart or cancer problems, caused the death.

 

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, silver sea said:

 

 


I would be inclined to agree with the academics.
 

There were occasions when readers of U.K. newspaper articles on coronavirus would say in the “readers’ comments” section at the bottom of the article that when one of their relatives died in a hospital, a decision had to be made about what to put on the death certificate. The relatives were told that if they agreed that coronavirus was the cause of death, the body could be released quickly for the funeral.
 

If however the relatives felt that death was caused by other reasons, the body would have to go into storage and that it might be weeks or even months before a final decision on cause of death could be made. 

 

Naturally, distressed relatives wanted to have a funeral as soon as possible and so were more likely to agree that coronavirus, rather than heart or cancer problems, caused the death.

 

 

 

 

 


Further to my comments above, here is an interesting article about Professor Karol Sikora “who has gained a huge Twitter following during the crisis, claimed doctors are sometimes too keen to mention the disease on death certificates.“

 

He is also a cancer treatment expert.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8409677/Coronavirus-deaths-HALF-official-toll.html

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Maybe that was genius from UK, who count speed of Ferrari in Red Bull case!?

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6 hours ago, webfact said:

UK COVID-19 daily death count could be scrapped

A Wuhan cover-up. All countries have their reasons to sweep information under the carpet.

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Daft to count a death as a covid19 death 28 days after someone has recovered from covid19. It should be noted that the UK is one of three countries that does not report the number of people who have recovered from covid19. This might be the reason why they could be recording road deaths, for example, as covid19 deaths. Even if someone has covid19 it's not a covid19 death it's a road traffic accident!

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Well, that is a good start.   

So, can we now begin to report the daily deaths of the diseases which cause considerably more deaths beginning with heart attacks, cancer, diabetes, and the other 19 diseases which cause more deaths daily than COVID-19 Plandemic to show how ridiculously low the COVID-19 are in contrast?

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