FlyingThai Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Sundown said: Nah, to do a stopover you need a visa, russian people cannot go to Europe without a visa. You clearly don't know anything. Golden rule: don't speak about things that you don't have a clue about. Anyway, I'm already 5 months into visa amnesty and I will be for another 2 months while I enjoy you guys ranting about it. How does it sound to you? ???? He probably meant just a regular stop for example at Amsterdam or Frankfurt Airport and you don't need a visa to transit there. If there is a suitable connection flight to Russia it's definitely possible to go that route. Generally speaking I suggest people to use mileage tickets for their flight home as those can be easily changed against a very small fee depending on the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bestie Posted August 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2020 Who knows if the will extend the amnesty. At the moment the situation is unpredictable. COVID can come back fast as so a new lockdown. Borders still close. And the situation for those who are on a NON-O, NON-B or NON-ED who have to leave Thailand to get an new Visa is completely unclear and I think they won't come up with a solution until the the end of the amnesty. That's forces many people to an agent and to switch to the new long stay "volunteer visa" Purpose? Who knows. But for those like me who don't want really that new golden long stay Volunteer Visa don't have many options left. I will wait and see what will happen. Even if I get myself to the point where I pay the agent for it, it isn't a guarantee that they won't crackdown these type of Visa one day. What kind of Plan B should I have? There isn't any because of the lack of options and information. Fact is people on tourist visas and people who are on visa extension can get a new Visa inside Thailand if they want to and they still do it. Official. their ED Visa crackdown a few years ago where they tighten all the rules up looks at the moment totally useless. I guess tourist didn't come here in the first place to study but many don't have any other Visa option left. Which I fully understand. The hole Visa rules in Thailand are a little bit out of date for the new normal and sooner or later they have to change it. But it looks like they will try to stick on it as long as possible. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runamok27 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 23 hours ago, CorpusChristie said: Its hardly "clearly" , I would say that its improbable I would go with 50-50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, runamok27 said: I would go with 50-50. OK, You wanna go 50/50 . I will remove TWO wrong answers............. Right , lets see what two answers we have left................... 1 . The amnesty give be extended 2. The amnesty will not be extended Take your time......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim P Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Caldera said: You're making loaded assumptions about people who have chosen to remain in Thailand on amnesty. Being one of them, let me tell you two things: Firstly, I don't need to work, neither at home nor in Thailand. So it would be pointless for me to go home to find a job. Secondly, I have insurance and my insurance covers COVID-19 in Thailand, which I specifically confirmed with my insurance company. Maybe Thai immigration shares your concerns, but they did nothing to address them. Before the first amnesty was announced, they asked people in need of a special extension to get silly embassy letters, landlord documents and to take a set of photos at their residence. They didn't ask for proof of funds to remain or proof of insurance. Go figure. So you don`t need to work, guess you are in the process of obtaining your Elite Visa then, no...thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim P Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Anyone on amnesty better start preparing to leave or getting a new visa pretty much this week. Once on overstay if your picked up the penalties are pretty harsh including blacklisting. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Sept. 26 is the final deadline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jim P said: Anyone on amnesty better start preparing to leave or getting a new visa pretty much this week. Once on overstay if your picked up the penalties are pretty harsh including blacklisting. I work out there's another 7 weeks before the amnesty gets extended/expires. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phillip9 Posted August 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I work out there's another 7 weeks before the amnesty gets extended/expires. But anyone who wants to get an Ed visa needs to start the process now. The deadline to apply has already passed at some schools, and a lot have a deadline by the end of next week. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim P Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I work out there's another 7 weeks before the amnesty gets extended/expires. A new visa wont appear in your passport overnight, if it were me I would start preparing my documentation now. I am in the process of renewing my driving licence, normally done on the day, now I have to wait 6 weeks for an appointment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Just now, Jim P said: A new visa wont appear in your passport overnight, if it were me I would start preparing my documentation now. I am in the process of renewing my driving licence, normally done on the day, now I have to wait 6 weeks for an appointment. They only announce amnesty extensions 2 weeks before the current one runs out. The sensible thing to do is wait until the 15th September before taking any action. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip9 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, BritManToo said: The sensible thing to do is wait until the 15th September before taking any action. But what will your action be at that point? Your only options will be to overstay or leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoupeo Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 3:58 PM, CorpusChristie said: Its hardly "clearly" , I would say that its improbable 2 first amnesty were certainly improbable for you and many here it seems... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, scoupeo said: 2 first amnesty were certainly improbable for you and many here it seems... No, the first amnesty was a near certainty , the second one was a distinct probability and a third one is a improbability at the moment , IO have already stated that if we want another extension after that, we need to get a letter from our Embassy's 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzz Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 hours ago, BritManToo said: They only announce amnesty extensions 2 weeks before the current one runs out. The sensible thing to do is wait until the 15th September before taking any action. what a crazy thing to think< they've giving everyone 2 months to get their S@#t together or make plans to leave before than only a fool would put it off till mid Sept 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zikomat Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Trujillo said: Sept. 26 is the final deadline 3 hours ago, Jim P said: Anyone on amnesty better start preparing to leave or getting a new visa pretty much this week. Once on overstay if your picked up the penalties are pretty harsh including blacklisting. Both of you, please leave the country by the end of September. And leave me alone. I am going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 8 hours ago, bestie said: That's forces many people to an agent and to switch to the new long stay "volunteer visa" Purpose? Who knows. Purpose? Agent-laundered money, of course. 4 hours ago, Jim P said: So you don`t need to work, guess you are in the process of obtaining your Elite Visa then, no...thought not. He said he didn't need to work - not that he was either so filthy-rich that burning a pile of money on a giant-bribe doesn't matter - or a fool who would burn-up his retirement-capital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 12 hours ago, Peterw42 said: Can I ask why an agent ? I was always under the impression agents cant do much for marriage extensions, as you still need home visits, photos, head office approval etc. Is the agent just to help, or do they get around some of the requirements ? Agents/Lawyers can solve nearly any problem here - the only question is how much you have to pay. The "division office sign-off" is approx another 10K Baht - something for which retirees are spared, but to which those supporting a Thai family are subjected. All the other stuff - photos, financials, home-visits and waiting in queue - is punishment for "honest" applicants, who attempt to get extensions for list-price. The only "must haves" for Thai-family based are a valid passport and Thai family (marriage-cert, etc). If retired, valid passport and over 50 (DOB in the passport gives this away). The rest magically goes away, for those who use an agent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 7:35 PM, warcy said: ... If you overstayed more than x months, you will be banned from coming to Thailand for x years. It has been a rule for many decades. The banning didn't start until a few years ago. On 8/11/2020 at 9:27 PM, azaazo9 said: When it is going to happen? My husband lost his job on 11 May, and since then we've been on amnesty visa (we are in Thailand since 2013). Few weeks ago, he got a new job, signed the job offer, but simply can not obtain Non b visa without leaving the country. We went to immigration office but they told us that in order to get the Non b visa he has to get letter from our embassy, which is impossible, or to leave Thailand on 26 sept, and than go back. We don't know what to do. It is so frustrating. Does someone has any idea? Yes. In order to get Immigration to do a Completely Legal Thing - issue a new extension to stay for his new job w/o "going out for a new visa," he and/or employer will need to pay one of Immigration's corrupt agent/lawyer partners a pile of cash. That's how this has worked since pre-covid. The "go out" bit is to make it a PITA, so you will pay them off with agent-laundered money, instead. But now, "going out" isn't even an option, so they have folks over a barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wongkitlo Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, PatrickC said: They aren't kicking them out. They're asking them to leave. There are plenty of flights out if you want to leave. Is a bit misinformed. There are flights maybe but they are not relevant if they are not going to your home country. There are still many countries that are very hard to get to. If it is not possible for people to get home what do you suggest they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 4 hours ago, scoupeo said: 2 first amnesty were certainly improbable for you and many here it seems... Errmm , did you read all the thread (and my posts ) ? No, you didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padthaininja Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 hours ago, BritManToo said: They only announce amnesty extensions 2 weeks before the current one runs out. The sensible thing to do is wait until the 15th September before taking any action. I'll be waiting as well. Bali should open up to tourists on Sep. 11, and hopefully, other Asian countries open up as well. I don't see Vietnam opening until 2021 but I have my eyes on it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 hours ago, zzzzz said: what a crazy thing to think< they've giving everyone 2 months to get their S@#t together or make plans to leave before than only a fool would put it off till mid Sept It is a risk versus cost analysis, as long as you are willing to leave if there is no announcement of an extended amnesty (or strong indications of one) by September 12th. It should still be possible to leave, just horribly expensive. Personally, I think a further amnesty is unlikely, but those who think one likely (no one can be sure either way) could decide to wait. Those who wish to stay after September 26th, but decide to wait before making a commitment better be very sure that their plan B is going to work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Wongkitlo said: Is a bit misinformed. There are flights maybe but they are not relevant if they are not going to your home country. There are still many countries that are very hard to get to. If it is not possible for people to get home what do you suggest they do? Those for whom travel to home country is impossible, even with months to arrange it, need to put pressure on their embassies to provide letters that confirm this. It should be possible to get serial 30-day extensions with embassy letters until the airports in their home countries reopen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingThai Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, padthaininja said: I'll be waiting as well. Bali should open up to tourists on Sep. 11, and hopefully, other Asian countries open up as well. I don't see Vietnam opening until 2021 but I have my eyes on it.. Wouldn't be surprised if this will be postponed last minute and even IF they reopen, how exactly do you want to fly there? THAI is grounded, Air Asia doesn't fly internationally. Bangkok-Doha-Denpasar on Qatar? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 4:46 PM, Zikomat said: If there is any life in places like Pattaya at the moment - it is thanks to those foreigners on amnesty who are still in Thailand. Kick this group out and destroy finally any business the Thai people in the touristic places might still have. Who is more important for Thailand? These people or some corrupted Immigration staff? There are also a lot of Expats who live here not on amnesty, plus those working and also perhaps on Education. I really am unsure how many foreigners are here purely because amnesty has permitted it, and also whether they are financially capable of supporting local businesses in any significant way. As to your last question.... probably the immigration staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 hours ago, BritTim said: It is a risk versus cost analysis, as long as you are willing to leave if there is no announcement of an extended amnesty (or strong indications of one) by September 12th. It should still be possible to leave, just horribly expensive. Personally, I think a further amnesty is unlikely, but those who think one likely (no one can be sure either way) could decide to wait. Those who wish to stay after September 26th, but decide to wait before making a commitment better be very sure that their plan B is going to work. And need to be prepared for not coming back to Thailand for a very long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Denis Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 7 hours ago, padthaininja said: I'll be waiting as well. Bali should open up to tourists on Sep. 11, and hopefully, other Asian countries open up as well. I don't see Vietnam opening until 2021 but I have my eyes on it.. Don't doubt what you say, but can you provide a link to information about Bali opening up to tourists Sept 11. This will sound like music in the ears of those that are 'end of the line' and for who home-country is not an option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trucking Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 In the English language newspapers today , a quote by CAAT director Chula Sukmanop : "As of now, no commercial airlines are permitted to operate flights into and out of Thailand and only a number of foreign business people are allowed to enter the country for business purposes." Whether this statement is just a reiteration of the current situation or Mr Chula has his facts wrong is not clear. If it were literally true then hard to see how you can leave if the borders are closed and there are no flights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 This topic has now run its course after I had clean out several off topic inflammatory posts along with he expected replies to them. This topic now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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