Has anyone here gotten their 30 day extension beyond 26 Sept?

[snow flurry]

As the title states, I'm wondering if anyone has already obtained the 30 day extension and what did they have to say/do/produce to get it. Please share your experience including which immigration office you went to. Thanks!

[graemeaylward]

As it is 47 days until September 26th, no-one will be getting a 30 day extension beyond that date.  The clue is in the question, i.e. 30 days!

 

[Peterw42]

You would need to apply on September 26 to get a 30 day extension beyond September 26.

I think it is presumed you have already had an extension, and it expires 26 September.

 

Think like the stamp in your passport says "permitted to stay until 26/09/2020" and you have used up all extension options.

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

You would need to apply on September 26 to get a 30 day extension beyond September 26.

A 30 day extension can be applied for prior September 26th and will start on the 27th. Immigration has already announced that.

[Peterw42]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

A 30 day extension can be applied for prior September 26th and will start on the 27th. Immigration has already announced that.

Thanks, I stand corrected. ( can you delete my post as its wrong)

Do you get the extension even if you got a 30 day extension back before the amnesty started ?

[ubonjoe]

32 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Do you get the extension even if you got a 30 day extension back before the amnesty started ?

It could be a special 30 day extension with a letter from a person's embassy.

[AgMech Cowboy]

NO. I'm going to keep it in my back pocket for as long as possible. With the TAT Deputy Minister commenting the borders will not open until next year, I'm taking a wait and see approach.

[Iamemjay]

17 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

It could be a special 30 day extension with a letter from a person's embassy.

A letter from the applicant's embassy OR a doctor's certificate and take it to your local Immigration office:

 

 

[Peter Denis]

18 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

A 30 day extension can be applied for prior to September 26th and will start on the 27th. Immigration has already announced that.

It is presently unclear (at least for me) to which type of Visa extension this 27 September start-date refers to.

It looks as if it is limited to the Embassy letter supported 30-days extensions only (for those on short-term Visa with inability to return to their home-country).

But limiting it only to that category will not avoid the 'overcrowding' of IOs - addressed in the InfoGraphic - when other extensions of stay are handled from 'day of application' (e.g. not used 30-day extension from a Tourist Visa entry, not used 60-day extension for reason of visiting your thai wife/thai dependant child, 1-year extension of stay based on a Non Imm O Visa).

It will be an absolute mad-house at IO in the last week before Amnesty expiry, if all those other Visa-extensions would only do their application last-minute.  And it is quite sensible to do so if the start date is from date of application.

Imo it would make sense for IO to make an announcement that e.g. ALL short-stay extensions of stay applications (30-day as well as 60-day) applied for during the present Amnesty period would start from Sept 27.

[ifmu]

at this time i am will go for the no flights out .. i paid for a ticket for aug 28 it got canceled  and i am waiting for rebook .. so far they are ignoring me .. i have not tried to call usa  this is gotogate ..   and i cant keep paying for flights if they get canceled .. 

Edited August 11, 2020 by ifmu
incorrect date

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

It is presently unclear (at least for me) to which type of Visa extension this 27 September start-date refers to.

It looks as if it is limited to the Embassy letter supported 30-days extensions only (for those on short-term Visa with inability to return to their home-country).

That is only stated in the infographic. There is other info they have put out that only states extensions.

[Peter Denis]

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That is only stated in the infographic. There is other info they have put out that only states extensions.

Agreed.

But there are reports of applicants for a 60-day extension of stay,

- where their IO provides it from date of application,

- while other IOs tell that they will handle such application with start-date Sept 27 (and suggesting applicants to do it somewhere in course of September),

- and still others that flatly refuse to handle a 60-day extension of stay application (because applicant not on a 'valid' permission to stay).

The only consistency in how IOs seem to handle this is by being inconsistent.

And the sad conclusion being that every applicant has to enquire at his local IO, how it would work out for him/her.  And even so, different officers in same IO will tell you differently.

Note: There is also a positive side to this chaos-situation, and that is that when being turned down at your local IO, you can 'shop around' for a more accomodating IO in a different province and apply there.

 

[BritTim]

18 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

A 30 day extension can be applied for prior September 26th and will start on the 27th. Immigration has already announced that.

They announced that all kinds of allowed extensions will take effect on September 27th, regardless of when they are applied for. In the infographic, it is in the section on "long term visa holders", but probably also applies to those given medical extensions, or 30-day extensions with a letter from the embassy. I think this thread is a useful one, as it may clarify whether regular 30-day extensions (and 60-day extensions to visit family) will be permitted for those on tourist entries who already have stayed over six months longer than they normally would have been allowed to.

[ubonjoe]

47 minutes ago, BritTim said:

They announced that all kinds of allowed extensions will take effect on September 27th, regardless of when they are applied for. In the infographic, it is in the section on "long term visa holders", but probably also applies to those given medical extensions, or 30-day extensions with a letter from the embassy. I think this thread is a useful one, as it may clarify whether regular 30-day extensions (and 60-day extensions to visit family) will be permitted for those on tourist entries who already have stayed over six months longer than they normally would have been allowed to.

They put that remark in the infographic under the wrong section. 

Official info I have seen only states extensions and not only the 2 mentioned in the infographic.

[Caldera]

24 minutes ago, BritTim said:

I think this thread is a useful one, as it may clarify whether regular 30-day extensions (and 60-day extensions to visit family) will be permitted for those on tourist entries who already have stayed over six months longer than they normally would have been allowed to.

True. I guess the reason why we haven't had reports yet (either way) is that people are waiting for reports before heading to immigration themselves. ????

 

I'm no exception. I'd go myself to give it a shot, but I prefer to wait for a bit longer to see if any positive or negative reports surface.

[JimGant]

1 hour ago, Peter Denis said:

It looks as if it is limited to the Embassy letter supported 30-days extensions

Except some (many?) embassies, like the US, are no longer issuing such letters. Understandable, as embassy appointments appear to be for emergency purposes only, at least at the US embassy.

[G950]

19 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

A 30 day extension can be applied for prior September 26th and will start on the 27th. Immigration has already announced that.

I arrived on a 6 month METV in February. When my 60 days was just about to end in late March the first amnesty was announced. 

 

Would I still have a right to a 30 day extension based on not having extended my original 60 day stay ? 

 

[Peter Denis]

32 minutes ago, G950 said:

I arrived on a 6 month METV in February. When my 60 days was just about to end in late March the first amnesty was announced.

Would I still have a right to a 30 day extension based on not having extended my original 60 day stay ?

YES, if not used already you can still apply for the 30-day extension that Tourist Visa entry entitles you to.

 

If you are planning to stay long-term in Thailand, you would then need to apply for a 90-day Non Imm O Visa (for reason of retirement or for reason of marriage to a thai national - different requirements).  That application needs to be done when there is still at least 15 days (some IOs require 23 days) left on the 30 days permission to stay.  Then during the last month of those 90 days you can apply at that same iO for the 1-year extension of stay based on that original Non Imm O Visa.

You would need to meet the financial requirements on the day of application for the 90-day Non Imm O Visa and meet the two month seasoning requirement of the funds when applying for the 1-year extension of stay.

 

NOTE 1: There is a confirmed case of an applicant at CW who was on a Visa Exempt entry and while on the Amnesty successfully applied for the 30-day extension of stay and subsequent 90-day Non Imm O Visa.

But it is strongly recommended if you plan to do the 30-day extension > 90-day Non Imm O Visa > 1-year extension of stay route, to enquire beforehand at your local IO to ensure they are OK with you applying for the 3 steps in that process (and not block you mid-way because you have been on the Amnesty).

In case they would not be willing to confirm one of those steps, you could look for a more accomodating IO in another province, and start the process there.

 

NOTE 2: When you intend to stay long-term in Thailand, providing the following info would be helpful, as it will determine the options you have on that 3-step process.

Your age - nationality - whether officially married to a thai national or with a thai dependant child - your local IO (or place where you prefer to locate.

On the basis of that info, the requirements for the different applications on that 3-step journey can be provided.

 

[G950]

1 hour ago, Peter Denis said:

YES, if not used already you can still apply for the 30-day extension that Tourist Visa entry entitles you to.

 

If you are planning to stay long-term in Thailand, you would then need to apply for a 90-day Non Imm O Visa (for reason of retirement or for reason of marriage to a thai national - different requirements).  That application needs to be done when there is still at least 15 days (some IOs require 23 days) left on the 30 days permission to stay.  Then during the last month of those 90 days you can apply at that same iO for the 1-year extension of stay based on that original Non Imm O Visa.

You would need to meet the financial requirements on the day of application for the 90-day Non Imm O Visa and meet the two month seasoning requirement of the funds when applying for the 1-year extension of stay.

 

NOTE 1: There is a confirmed case of an applicant at CW who was on a Visa Exempt entry and while on the Amnesty successfully applied for the 30-day extension of stay and subsequent 90-day Non Imm O Visa.

But it is strongly recommended if you plan to do the 30-day extension > 90-day Non Imm O Visa > 1-year extension of stay route, to enquire beforehand at your local IO to ensure they are OK with you applying for the 3 steps in that process (and not block you mid-way because you have been on the Amnesty).

In case they would not be willing to confirm one of those steps, you could look for a more accomodating IO in another province, and start the process there.

 

NOTE 2: When you intend to stay long-term in Thailand, providing the following info would be helpful, as it will determine the options you have on that 3-step process.

Your age - nationality - whether officially married to a thai national or with a thai dependant child - your local IO (or place where you prefer to locate.

On the basis of that info, the requirements for the different applications on that 3-step journey can be provided.

 

Thank you for taking the time to reply. This board has provided value information over the years and we all appreciate the time and effort put in by yourselves and other major contributors. 

 

I am in the process of registering a Thai Export company. This is an established business I have been doing for years and is not covid affected, our sales have actually gone up this year which has baffled us but anyway.......

 

The issue I have is that the law firm I am using insists that I will have to leave Thailand, apply for the Work Permit abroad and then come back in. I guess technically that is possible through repatriation flight - ASR etc but realistically would cost a lot of time, $ and stress. 

 

I have heard people say it is possible to obtain a WP without leaving the country and would love to hear any ideas on if and how this is possible. New Zealand Passport / Apartment in BKK / No Thai wife or dependents - here for business purposes only.

Edited August 11, 2020 by G950

[Peter Denis]

3 minutes ago, G950 said:

Thank you for taking the time to reply. This board has provided value information over the years and we all appreciate the time and effort put in by yourselves and other major contributors. 

 

I am in the process of registering a Thai Export company. This is an established business I have been doing for years and is not covid affected, our sales have actually gone up this year which has baffled us but anyway.......

 

The issue I have is that the law firm I am using insists that I will have to leave Thailand, apply for the Work Permit abroad and then come back in. I guess technically that is possible through repatriation flight - ASR etc but realistically would cost a lot of time, $ and stress. 

 

I have heard people say it is possible to obtain a WP without leaving the country and would love to hear any ideas on if and how this is possible. New Zealand Passport / Apartment in BKK

Hi G950,

Unfortunately I am not very knowledgeable in the area of doing business in Thailand and how to get hold of such Work Permit as your law firm claims is needed.

@ubonjoe will surely know how to proceed in your case.

Cheers and success!

[ubonjoe]

14 minutes ago, G950 said:

The issue I have is that the law firm I am using insists that I will have to leave Thailand, apply for the Work Permit abroad and then come back in. I guess technically that is possible through repatriation flight - ASR etc but realistically would cost a lot of time, $ and stress. 

A work permit cannot be applied or issued  outside the country. If you are outside the country a company can use a WP3 form to apply for it and then send you the receipt for it to apply for a non-b visa.

It is possible to apply for a work permit while in the country to obtain a work permit application approval but it will not be issued until you have a non-b visa.

[freesudani]

Yes ... just got back from immigration CW after providing my embassy paper , the extension is 30 days starting 26-september , but they didnt give me the extension yet ,i got a stamp on my passport  to get back to them on September for final approval. 

[G950]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

A work permit cannot be applied or issued  outside the country. If you are outside the country a company can use a WP3 form to apply for it and then send you the receipt for it to apply for a non-b visa.

It is possible to apply for a work permit while in the country to obtain a work permit application approval but it will not be issued until you have a non-b visa.

Thank you for your reply ubonjoe. 

 

Just for clarity. Is it possible to complete the whole process of starting a company then moving to legally being able to work and stay without leaving Thailand IE Non-B visa & Work Permit ?

[Peter Denis]

37 minutes ago, freesudani said:

Yes ... just got back from immigration CW after providing my embassy paper , the extension is 30 days starting 26-september , but they didnt give me the extension yet ,i got a stamp on my passport  to get back to them on September for final approval. 

Thanks for the report.

It confirms that for short-term Visa holders the Embassy provided statement of inability to re-enter home-country, will provide a 30-day extension of stay starting on 27 September (as mentioned in the InfoGraphic).

 

[freesudani]

9 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Thanks for the report.

It confirms that for short-term Visa holders the Embassy provided statement of inability to re-enter home-country, will provide a 30-day extension of stay starting on 27 September (as mentioned in the InfoGraphic).

 

It still subject for approval though.... there is a possibility i can be denied 

[jackdd]

On 8/10/2020 at 5:02 PM, ubonjoe said:

A 30 day extension can be applied for prior September 26th and will start on the 27th. Immigration has already announced that.

The police memo, for which you sadly didn't get the translation yet, says that tourists have to leave until 26th September. No regular 30 day extension possible, not even 60 days to visit wife, the only possible extensions are based on medical reasons, or with a letter from the embassy.

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by jackdd

[ubonjoe]

9 minutes ago, jackdd said:

The police memo, for which you sadly didn't get the translation yet, says that tourists have to leave until 26th September. No regular 30 day extension possible, not even 60 days to visit wife, the only possible extensions are based on medical reasons, or with a letter from the embassy.

It was requested but the first one received was only page one. I should have the rest of it later today.

I will wait for it before saying much about it. 

[BritTim]

3 hours ago, G950 said:

I have heard people say it is possible to obtain a WP without leaving the country and would love to hear any ideas on if and how this is possible. New Zealand Passport / Apartment in BKK / No Thai wife or dependents - here for business purposes only.

You need a visa agent or specialist immigration law firm to help you do this in country. I am unsure of the costs involved, but it should be possible. Unfortunately, I cannot help with a suggested firm in Bangkok to help. You will need to call around, unless someone else has a good suggestion.

[G950]

22 minutes ago, BritTim said:

You need a visa agent or specialist immigration law firm to help you do this in country. I am unsure of the costs involved, but it should be possible. Unfortunately, I cannot help with a suggested firm in Bangkok to help. You will need to call around, unless someone else has a good suggestion.

I hear you. It is kind of what I thought was the case. I do have a list of the usual suspects to call tomorrow. 

[BritTim]

21 minutes ago, G950 said:

I hear you. It is kind of what I thought was the case. I do have a list of the usual suspects to call tomorrow. 

Tomorrow is a public holiday, and might not be the best day to be calling law firms.