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My wife went to the Land Transport Office in Chonburi to have her 2 year car license renewed to 5 years.

 

1. She told me that they made her use some machine which projected red, green or yellow to the sides of the eyes right next to them.

2. The Thai application form mentions that she could have used the 2 year license for one more year without renewal.

 

My 2 year licenses for car and motorbike will as well run out within some 14 days and I have to renew for 2 years (unfortunately my Elite Visa does not allow 5 years). When I made the color blindness test at Chachoengsao at the time I was asked to tell the color of spots pointed at with a stick within a large circle, which was very easy and I passed with flying colors. But I know that I have some percentage of red-green color deficiency because I could never pass a Ishihara test. So this color deficiency is not "either you have it or not" - there are shades depending on the test method (for which I am a living example). Now I am a bit nervous because I do not know if the method described by my wife is a new standard or a procedure used at selected LTO recently which I would pass easily or not.

 

A) Does anybody know if this is a new procedure (or even a standard) and if they use still the "big circle" in Chachoengsao or at the LT Office in Banglamung or elsewhere ? Banglamung would actually be the nearest option but I dont care to go anywhere.

B) Could I really use my 2 year licenses for one more year without renewal and if not what would be the grace period in case of me as farang and a renewal 2 -> 2 years. Or is this only for Thai nationals and when renewing to 5 years.

 

Besides I am ready to get my Residence Certificates, have all the copies needed plus Med Cert. Just have to decide now which LTO. Chonburi would have been nice, not too many people, my wife got an appointment within a few days online but this new color test is a bit risky for me.

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" I know that I have some percentage of red-green color deficiency because I could never pass a Ishihara test"

 

Then should you be driving or riding a motorcycle at all? I used the LT near JJ in Bangkok, they do the test as described by your wife.

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Try the ole: "Did you drop this 1000 baht note?"   😊

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30 minutes ago, saakura said:

" I know that I have some percentage of red-green color deficiency because I could never pass a Ishihara test"

 

Then should you be driving or riding a motorcycle at all? I used the LT near JJ in Bangkok, they do the test as described by your wife.

I am driving cars and bikes since 45 years partially under the worst conditions and without any incident ever. Obviously other countries have different opinions about the severity of this green-red deficiency in the licensing process. As I said - I recognize the colors immediately - but the Ishihara is to a certain percentage difficult. But I have never encountered an Ishihara on the street.

 

Thanks for the info about the LT in BKK.

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33 minutes ago, blackcab said:

 

When your license is expired your entitlement to drive expires at the same time. There is no grace period at all when it comes to your entitlement to drive.

 

What you are referring to is the period after your license expires when the Department of Land Transport will renew the license without making you start the entire process from scratch.

 

These are two very different things.

True in normal circumstances, but there is a limited  amnesty in place right now and you can drive on an expired licence , provided you have applied to renew and are in possession  of a booked appointment at your local DLT. 

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Thanks Pilotman. I will apply then right away. There must be quite a backlog of applications nationwide.

 

I just remember how this went in Tokyo: I applied for the license and the guy behind the counter showed me indeed a Ishihara picture with a size of about 20 cm diameter. And I said: What is this ? He then showed me another plate (took seconds) with a single 20 cm diameter dark red dot. And I said: This is red. And so I passed.

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1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said:

Try the ole: "Did you drop this 1000 baht note?"   😊

Maybe funny but I have personally seen this and it works.

Another option is the agent route.  Never seen anyone fail with their agent signaling to the examiner prior to the test.

Just sayin.

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24 minutes ago, moogradod said:

Thanks Pilotman. I will apply then right away. There must be quite a backlog of applications nationwide.

 

I just remember how this went in Tokyo: I applied for the license and the guy behind the counter showed me indeed a Ishihara picture with a size of about 20 cm diameter. And I said: What is this ? He then showed me another plate (took seconds) with a single 20 cm diameter dark red dot. And I said: This is red. And so I passed.

I have never quite understood color perception tests.  There must be a difference between not seeing red and green at all and seeing them, but seeing them differently to what is considered 'normal'.  For example, if to a persons eyes,  green looks blue and red looks  brown, so long as you know what they mean to drivers, isn't that okay?  I know that would not do for pilots, or some other professions, but I fail to see why a person can't drive with that amount of differentiation. In fact, many people must do so.   I Must be missing something here. 

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2 hours ago, saakura said:

" I know that I have some percentage of red-green color deficiency because I could never pass a Ishihara test"

 

Then should you be driving or riding a motorcycle at all? I used the LT near JJ in Bangkok, they do the test as described by your wife.

 

I have a deficiency on my left eye. If I do the colour test, where there is a number somewhere in a circle with all coloured balls, in many cases I can't clearly see the number.

 

Same goes when you with those posts you often see on FB where there is a hidden object or number.

 

When I take off my glasses or close my left eye, there is no problem.

 

Do you really think I can not distinguish a green from and amber or red traffic light, and I should stay off the roads?

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41 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Maybe funny but I have personally seen this and it works.

Another option is the agent route.  Never seen anyone fail with their agent signaling to the examiner prior to the test.

Just sayin.

Amen Brother...money greases the skids very effectively in Thailand...

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3 hours ago, moogradod said:

1. She told me that they made her use some machine which projected red, green or yellow to the sides of the eyes right next to them.

It's a peripheral vision test.

No need to worry about the colours, just holler when you see a light flash to the left or right.

 

I took this test for my 2 year and 5 year licences.

If your peripheral vision is bad you can take a special eye test at a hospital who issue a certificate excusing that part of the test.

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The traffic lights in most of the world are red, green, amber.

Different configurations at intersections, railroad crossings, bridges, construction zones, etc.

Red and green are obviously used to stop or go.

I think most with some "minor hue impairment" can tell the difference on the roadways.  But, if a person has a severe issue and difficulty distinquishing between the two, it can be a major problem and obviously could cause an accident.

 

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On 8/10/2020 at 9:19 PM, Tanoshi said:

It's a peripheral vision test.

No need to worry about the colours, just holler when you see a light flash to the left or right.

 

I took this test for my 2 year and 5 year licences.

If your peripheral vision is bad you can take a special eye test at a hospital who issue a certificate excusing that part of the test.

This one was definitely a color test. My wife was only asked for the names of the colors - no such thing as indicating if you see something approaching from the left or right.

 

Has not anyone taken a test at Banglamung lately ? How do they test the colors there ? The good ole big circle or something else. They seem to have abandoned the Ishihara everywhere anyway but there is still this thing my wife describes or lights looking like a red light (only in this case the position is not what it used to be of course).

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1 hour ago, moogradod said:

This one was definitely a color test. My wife was only asked for the names of the colors - no such thing as indicating if you see something approaching from the left or right.

No, the lights may be coloured but that's immaterial, it's a test for peripheral vision.

You can stick your thumb up to indicate you saw a light, because they won't understand a word you say in English.

 

It's no different than the same test you may have at an opticians.

The colour blindness test is a chart where they point at colours.

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