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A couple of times now I've knocked into scooters trying to undercut me as I'm turning through a u turn, fortunately nothing has ever come of it, they just pickup their scooter and ride away, but recently my wife had the same happen and this time, this guy wants to be paid money. I believe he's at fault, but will the police think so in this situation? Has this happened to anyone else here? 

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6 minutes ago, northsouthdevide said:

It may or may not be yours or your wife's fault. 

Every traffic collision has to be judged as an individual situation. 

Just because you're in a car, doesn't mean you have right of way over a scooter. 

It may not be your fault, but if this has happened more than once, and you haven't intentionally collided with the scooters, then I would suggest you be more vigilant when making a u-turn. 

Yes, I understand that. I'm not sure if you drive here, but the uturns are not well designed for visibility and the speed of drivers coming from your left, I'd much rather take the risk of not looking right than getting tboned by a speeding car for not seeing it on my left. 

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4 minutes ago, jadee said:

Hi, I haven't had that exact thing happen (scooter on u-turn) but a couple of years ago I was pulling out of a junction and a guy on a scooter(moped - Honda click) shot between stationary cars and scratched across the front on my bumper.
Fortunately, I was being extremely careful and just inching out so he didn't come off (could have been so much worse) but he still insisted that I call insurance. I didn't have a dash cam at the time so I was worried, I waited for insurance, he spoke to me and then the guy, then said he wanted to go to the police station.
You can fairly imagine how worried I was, but I followed the insurance guy, went to the nearest police station. What happened was the police fined the biker for have no helmet or licence then called both me and the biker to the desk and asked what happened, decided I wasn't at fault and I left. 
So that's my advice; call insurance, go to the police station. 

Thanks a lot, it's my wife's car and shes let the insurance lapse somehow, so we've renewed it now but alas, too late to bring them in. She's Thai, so will have to let her sort it with the police and scooterer. Good to hear a positive story, my experience with the BiB has been mixed bag from great to awful. 

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2 minutes ago, 2long said:

A u-turn goes to the right, so in Thailand, that's the side to pass on. This means that if the scooter can and wants to travel faster than you, he might have the right to pass / undercut you. I know how frustrating it can be when driving a car to see these little things buzzing around and going through gaps. But having been a biker and car driver for more than 30 years, every story has two sides. There are many good and bad bikers and drivers alike. It's very easy to see it from your own point of view, and hard to see from others'.

He might have the right, that's why I thought I would check on here for similar experiences to help set expectations with my Mrs. 

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2 minutes ago, 2long said:

You need eyes everywhere on the roads here. Right, left, right, forwards, behind and right again!

It's not the scooter rider's fault that you choose left only for your own safety.

Fair enough. 

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49 minutes ago, RopeySG said:

I believe he's at fault, but will the police think so in this situation? Has this happened to anyone else here? 

Scooters will overtake on either side.

If you're driving a car, you need to watch out for them.

If she had no tax or insurance, it'll be her fault.

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3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Scooters will overtake on either side.

If you're driving a car, you need to watch out for them.

If she had no tax or insurance, it'll be her fault.

Tax was current, but insurance had lapsed. She misplaced her license too, so that's probably going to count against her also. 

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9 hours ago, RopeySG said:

Tax was current, but insurance had lapsed. She misplaced her license too, so that's probably going to count against her also. 

Which is odd as you can't buy tax without a new insurance.

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3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Which is odd as you can't buy tax without a new insurance.

I guess it's the voluntary insurance that's ran out. 

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