Democrat Joe Biden chooses U.S. Senator Kamala Harris for White House running mate

[billd766]

4 hours ago, checkered flag said:

You must have your blinders on and your earplugs in, She is caustic, overly aggressive and mean spirited. These characteristics will make most voters want to vomit. 

She is intense and says a lot, but who wants to listen.

Any unbiased person should want to listen and make their own minds up.

 

Of course you and a few other posters on TVF have already made your biased minds up against her, by simply believing what Trump says about her and not checking.

[billd766]

31 minutes ago, Maktian D said:

you got the point -

It just says she took advantage of an old guys . everything  on her career started with this. 

And your problem with that is what, exactly?

[Morch]

21 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL  Yes, I'm 100% certain there's no connection.  To be fair I wouldn't know.  Given the shadiness of the political world I wouldn't be the least surprised if she was indeed accurate.  Perhaps the author has evidence of a connection which she failed to elaborate on?  Possibly.  Would you know?  Doubtful.  Can you verify?  Doubtful.  Personally, I read what she wrote, took note, but I'll reserve judgment of a connection until I see further evidence.  I feel that's a better decision than to jump to a forgone conclusion without having any knowledge at all.

 

"...I feel that's a better decision than to jump to a forgone conclusion without having any knowledge at all."

 

And yet, many of your posts display an opposite tendency. Or, more accurately, building whole castles in the air based on dodgy commentary, cherry-picked bits, echo chamber products and whatnot. This whole thing where you toss in some info, mix hyper partisan interpretation and speculation, then go on about "reserving judgement" is not particularly convincing.

[Morch]

21 hours ago, checkered flag said:

Or yours. Our opinions vary but we both have a right to express them.

 

An odd comment when coming from someone habitually questioning the right of none-American posters to comment on things USA, or disparaging their views based on not being American.

[Morch]

19 hours ago, riclag said:

Upgrading like how,overhaul the whole, its the same as burning down !

 My country can't wait for the election to be over!  There are some serious far left radical ideas that have to be addressed in America.

"Restore The Soul of America. Our best days still lie ahead.Anything is possible!  "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_2020_presidential_campaign

My country has heard the above in a broad sense for over 40 years!

This is his third attempt to be president of the United States.Hopefully it will be his last.its politicians like him, that have filled communities with false hope! The proof of that happen in the last election, 2016 when America's electorate voted down the continuation of it.   

 

"...its politicians like him, that have filled communities with false hope!"

 

What, like that wall thing? The Tired of Winning bit? Maybe Trade Wars Are Easy To Win? Etc...

[DrTuner]

I guess if Joe wins, half of the voters will be waiting for him to kick the bucket so their own heroine gets the reigns. While being too PC to admit it, of course.

[rvaviator]

19 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Rather than keep going on about “far left radical ideas” you could educate us all and tell us exactly what Biden’s “far left radical ideas” are?

Policy ideas only please. 

Sound bites and rhetoric is so much easier .....

and that applies to both sides of the divide ....

Edited August 16, 2020 by rvaviator

[rvaviator]

3 hours ago, Maktian D said:

you got the point -

It just says she took advantage of an old guys . everything  on her career started with this. 

Did she not work in a bar in Pat ..........   Or did I get that wrong .... ?

[mikebike]

20 hours ago, riclag said:

Upgrading like how,overhaul the whole, its the same as burning down !

You r possibly the only person in the entire english-speaking world who believes "upgrade" = "burn it down"...

[Dave0206]

7 hours ago, checkered flag said:

You must have your blinders on and your earplugs in, She is caustic, overly aggressive and mean spirited. These characteristics will make most voters want to vomit. 

She is intense and says a lot, but who wants to listen.

Exactly who would want to listen? She was mean to me asking me questions I try to avoid answering!

I mean I try to only put republicans fear of woman down to a few at the top but my god you eat up every word the orange one says.

Where did you buy you’re blinkers? 
Mean spirited like when one of republican candidates called ted Cruz wife ugly?

or other conspiracy theories about his father sorry I didn’t understand you’re meaning of mean spirited.

When some decorated soldier was called to give his testimony regards Ukraine call and he unlike other cowards gave a true account of what went on he was vilified by republicans questioning his right to even be in the country and he had bad record( Jim Jordan) I’m lost on you’re version of mean spirited 

you’re right she says a lot unfortunately for the non listeners you are programmed to get the abridged version given by fox and frauds 

[earlinclaifornia]

5 hours ago, Tagged said:

It will be a tragic comic show from the Usa this year and this election, and it will not be over after, no matter he win or loose. It will continue for years to come more violent verbal physical. My 10 cents. 

Usa have been fostering a violent and offensive culture for centuries.

 

Yikes, where do you come up with a conclusion such as this? Please provide anything to prove your points? We equally have our own experiences and insight. I think most of Americans are good people and this unhappiness with the political realities is just a result of most feeling left out. The violence and offensiveness re a small part of most Americans values. I believe that the trumpness will dissolve as quick as it arose. This is a person who has lived over 60 years there and I have a great feel about America.

[Tagged]

3 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Yikes, where do you come up with a conclusion such as this? Please provide anything to prove your points? We equally have our own experiences and insight. I think most of Americans are good people and this unhappiness with the political realities is just a result of most feeling left out. The violence and offensiveness re a small part of most Americans values. I believe that the trumpness will dissolve as quick as it arose. This is a person who has lived over 60 years there and I have a great feel about America.

Yikes, yes, why? 

 

I have lived partly in America, met a wide group of different people from many states, from many different proffessions, and backgrounds. Also during my travels I have met a wide group of different people from around the states, and have family who still live in Us, and also emigrated back to Norway three generations later than the first one emigrated. 

 

It says alot about a country when they manage to Elect Trump in the first place.

 

Police violence

Number of people in jail

Homocides

number of wars involved With and in

history of genocides and slavery

 

The role playing in trade embargos around the world, that involve mostly challenges for the people itself and not the governments. Irak and Iran to Mention two countries and now teasing the sleeping tiger China. That is a war Usa not going to win. China have all the time and can wait, Usa do not have som much time to get back on the track. 

 

if nothing of all this matters, then I really do not know. As long the locomtive is moving, everything is good, but you know with dept, the unemployment rate, lack of health care, lack of proper education, lack of proper mental stable leader, you will suffer or your country will suffer for a long time. 

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

I guess if Joe wins, half of the voters will be waiting for him to kick the bucket so their own heroine gets the reigns. While being too PC to admit it, of course.

I dont agree. I think most will just be happy the idiot in charge now will be gone. All this winning is tiresome.

 

If Joe gets elected no one will care too much about politics but he will have a hard job getting rid of all the executive orders and trying to get the national debt down. It wont be an easy job after this current fiasco.

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, DrTuner said:

I guess if Joe wins, half of the voters will be waiting for him to kick the bucket so their own heroine gets the reigns. While being too PC to admit it, of course.

And Trump's VP candidate is missing that voter enthusiasm.

[darksidedog]

Some troll posts, off topic posts, replies and replies to replies have been removed.

Could have removed most of them as off topic also.

This is about Biden and Kamala, not China, or the status of the USA in the worlds eyes, or anything else.

[Scott]

Posting false information will and has resulted in suspensions.   Please keep your discussion on topic and civil.   Posts removed.    

[candide]

Biden choosing Kamala Harris as VP has nothing to do with China. Is it difficult to understand?

If you want to debate about China, use a thread related to China, such as this one:

 

[Tie Dye Samurai]

11 hours ago, DrTuner said:

I guess if Joe wins, half of the voters will be waiting for him to kick the bucket so their own heroine gets the reigns. While being too PC to admit it, of course.

You do understand that Trump is only 4 years younger than Biden, Trump's YOUNGER brother just died and The Donald is not about to get on a mountain bike for a ride like Biden was just recorded doing. Quit pushing the Biden is about to die bit.,..nobody is buying that he will go before Trump when POTUS is in the shape he is in when he is 74 years old. Trump could drop of a heart attack at any moment given the shape is he in and the stress he is under. That is a scenario NOBODY can deny.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I believe that the trumpness will dissolve as quick as it arose.

Trump was elected, IMO, because many Americans "dislike" Washington and politicians. That isn't going to change because Trump was unable to change the culture. Even if Trump doesn't win, expect more such to appear in the future. While Trump may vanish into history "Trumpness" isn't, IMO, going away.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, billd766 said:

Any unbiased person should want to listen and make their own minds up.

 

Of course you and a few other posters on TVF have already made your biased minds up against her, by simply believing what Trump says about her and not checking.

Perhaps we don't support her because the voters in the primary rejected her. If she was as good as some on here make out she'd be the candidate for POTUS, instead of being chosen, apparently, because she is female and of dark complexion.

I personally haven't seen anything from Trump on her.

[thaibeachlovers]

40 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

You do understand that Trump is only 4 years younger than Biden, Trump's YOUNGER brother just died and The Donald is not about to get on a mountain bike for a ride like Biden was just recorded doing. Quit pushing the Biden is about to die bit.,..nobody is buying that he will go before Trump when POTUS is in the shape he is in when he is 74 years old. Trump could drop of a heart attack at any moment given the shape is he in and the stress he is under. That is a scenario NOBODY can deny.

If Trump can't finish his term Pence becomes POTUS, and that's just fine with me.

[Credo]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump was elected, IMO, because many Americans "dislike" Washington and politicians. That isn't going to change because Trump was unable to change the culture. Even if Trump doesn't win, expect more such to appear in the future. While Trump may vanish into history "Trumpness" isn't, IMO, going away.

You may well be right.   Americans are, by nature, suspicious of government and Trump promised to change the government, but that meant gutting much of the bureaucracy.  Nobody likes bureaucracy, but in the end a large nation can't run without it and we are seeing that.   We see him trying to get the government out of medical care and that's left millions without medical coverage.  We've seen the CDC and health related organizations gutted -- and it wasn't just budgets cut, but it was people fired and positions not filled.  That has contributed heavily to the extremely poor response to the pandemic with everything from a depleted national stockpile of medical supplies to the roll out of ineffective tests.   We've seen the State Department gutted and to date it's hard to know the total effect of that.  The most current endeavor is the gutting of the postal service.   

There is no doubt that there is a lot of waste in government, but no system works well without the expertise and people needed to keep it functioning.  It's not always about efficiency, but it is about effectiveness.   

 

Biden and Harris will, if elected, restore some balance.

 
 

[thaibeachlovers]

50 minutes ago, Credo said:

You may well be right.   Americans are, by nature, suspicious of government and Trump promised to change the government, but that meant gutting much of the bureaucracy.  Nobody likes bureaucracy, but in the end a large nation can't run without it and we are seeing that.   We see him trying to get the government out of medical care and that's left millions without medical coverage.  We've seen the CDC and health related organizations gutted -- and it wasn't just budgets cut, but it was people fired and positions not filled.  That has contributed heavily to the extremely poor response to the pandemic with everything from a depleted national stockpile of medical supplies to the roll out of ineffective tests.   We've seen the State Department gutted and to date it's hard to know the total effect of that.  The most current endeavor is the gutting of the postal service.   

There is no doubt that there is a lot of waste in government, but no system works well without the expertise and people needed to keep it functioning.  It's not always about efficiency, but it is about effectiveness.   

 

Biden and Harris will, if elected, restore some balance.

 
 

Bureaucracies always expand irrespective of need. I'm all for a severe pruning.  They need to do their jobs better, and stick to what they are supposed to do.

 

However, as an outsider, the use of lobbyists seems to have got out of control. They should, IMO, be banned from any contact with government.

[simple1]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps we don't support her because the voters in the primary rejected her. If she was as good as some on here make out she'd be the candidate for POTUS, instead of being chosen, apparently, because she is female and of dark complexion.

I personally haven't seen anything from Trump on her.

Plenty of articles about trump's responses. A few of many...

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/15/politics/kamala-harris-donald-trump-campaign-2020/index.html

 

ABC USA...

 

 

[Opl]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps we don't support her because the voters in the primary rejected her. If she was as good as some on here make out she'd be the candidate for POTUS, instead of being chosen, apparently, because she is female and of dark complexion.

I personally haven't seen anything from Trump on her.

"“They see potential in her,” Buttigieg’s pollster wrote about Kamala Harris, after interviewing groups of black voters — “but do worry that America won’t elect a black woman.”

https://fr.scribd.com/document/431372932/South-Carolina-Focus-Groups-Findings#from_embed

[stevenl]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps we don't support her because the voters in the primary rejected her. If she was as good as some on here make out she'd be the candidate for POTUS, instead of being chosen, apparently, because she is female and of dark complexion.

I personally haven't seen anything from Trump on her.

 

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If Trump can't finish his term Pence becomes POTUS, and that's just fine with me.

You're ok with Pence, who was rejected in the primaries, but not with Harris, because she was rejected in the primaries?

[Scott]

A post in a foreign language has been removed.   English only on this section of the forum.

 

[MaxYakov]

Kamala is a disaster. Yes or No? Yes or No? (borrowing from her favorite answer requirements during her interrogation sessions). ????

 

 

Edited August 17, 2020 by MaxYakov

[Tippaporn]

56 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Plenty of articles about trump's responses. A few of many...

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/15/politics/kamala-harris-donald-trump-campaign-2020/index.html

 

ABC USA...

 

 

Trump's comments were honest and truthful.  What's the problem?  He's not making it about gender or colour.  Only the Dems and libs are twisting their interpretations in order to once again paint orange man bad.  LOL

 

Trump was correct in saying that Harris was disrespectful and vicious towards Kavanaugh.  She was.  She displayed none of that towards Biden when she said she believed his accuser.  Double standard?  And where oh where are her values?  She believes Biden's accuser (at least those were the words coming out of her mouth) so if she truly believed that Biden was guilty of sexual misconduct wouldn't her values and principles cause her to decline Biden's offer to be his running mate?  But no, she'll give Joe a pass on that and his racism exhibited by his earlier support and friendship with segregationists and his anti-busing stance (which were very hurtful to poor old Kamala).  She'd toss out all of her values (if she truly has any) for the opportunity to be president VP.

 

Edit:  BTW, did anyone notice the report of Trump's brother at the end?  No condolences or well wishes at all.  How pathetic.

Edited August 17, 2020 by Tippaporn

[Chomper Higgot]

35 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Trump's comments were honest and truthful.  What's the problem?  He's not making it about gender or colour.  Only the Dems and libs are twisting their interpretations in order to once again paint orange man bad.  LOL

 

Trump was correct in saying that Harris was disrespectful and vicious towards Kavanaugh.  She was.  She displayed none of that towards Biden when she said she believed his accuser.  Double standard?  And where oh where are her values?  She believes Biden's accuser (at least those were the words coming out of her mouth) so if she truly believed that Biden was guilty of sexual misconduct wouldn't her values and principles cause her to decline Biden's offer to be his running mate?  But no, she'll give Joe a pass on that and his racism exhibited by his earlier support and friendship with segregationists and his anti-busing stance (which were very hurtful to poor old Kamala).  She'd toss out all of her values (if she truly has any) for the opportunity to be president VP.

 

Edit:  BTW, did anyone notice the report of Trump's brother at the end?  No condolences or well wishes at all.  How pathetic.

Harris’ questioning of Kavanaugh has set Senate Record with the evidence for his removal from the SCOTUS and prosecution for perjury before the Senate.

 

He lied under oath and deserves a great deal more of this ‘disrespecting’.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 17, 2020 by Chomper Higgot