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6 minutes ago, greggraham said:

UK Embassy have given me a letter for my situation. They updated their website last week. 

US embassy have given everyone a letter on TV that has asked for one in the last week. They sent an email / updated their website last week. 

Is the purpose of this letter to extend beyond Sept 26th for medical or unable to fly reasons, or is to grant a valid permission of stay prior to and up to Sept 26th for the purpose of applying for a Non O > long term extension.

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If you have 400k baht in the bank now you can apply for a 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) that is required to apply for a extension of stay based upon marriage. The 400k baht only has to be in

@Barnabe UJ has given you the correct information for the procedure to convert your TV to a Non O as a prelude to applying for an annual extension of stay based on marriage. There is no seas

Next week I'll go to Chaeng Wattana and post an update here.

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On 8/14/2020 at 3:36 PM, ubonjoe said:

Clicked on wrong link before for is for a Thai child not marriage. I have changed it in my post.

Correct one: http://bangkokimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/06-edit_NON-O.pdf

Ubon Joe 

If I put 400K in the bank tomorrow can I get a 3 month extension to get 12 month marriage extension I have already had my 2 month extension from my non 0 and it expires the 16th Sept

So wondering if I can get a 3 month if I put the money in and ask for it so the money mature and also if they refuse me for the dependency because money is not matured can I request an extension to allow th emoney to mature ??



Or is that not applicable in this case 

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55 minutes ago, Nadia6 said:

If I put 400K in the bank tomorrow can I get a 3 month extension to get 12 month marriage extension I have already had my 2 month extension from my non 0 and it expires the 16th Sept

My post you quoted is for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry not a extension. It can only be applied for if you are on a visa exempt or tourist visa entry.

Since you have a non-o visa entry you can apply for a one year extension of stay based upon marriage or for being the parent when you can meet the financial requirements.

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2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

My post you quoted is for a 90 day non immigrant visa entry not a extension. It can only be applied for if you are on a visa exempt or tourist visa entry.

Since you have a non-o visa entry you can apply for a one year extension of stay based upon marriage or for being the parent when you can meet the financial requirements.

But there is no time for the funds to mature so I guess its back to hoping that i can apply for the dependency without money having to mature.

 

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28 minutes ago, Nadia6 said:

But there is no time for the funds to mature so I guess its back to hoping that i can apply for the dependency without money having to mature.

It is a extension of stay based upon being the parent of a Thai. A dependency extension does not exist.

Many office have waived the 2 months in the bank if you are the parent of Thai even if still married. Some people have done it when applying based upon marriage with proof they have a child or children.

You just need to talk to your local immigration office about it.

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Just came back from Chaeng Wattana and it couldn’t have been worse.

 

They started implicating with everything, the pictures are not aligned, bank passbook is not updated (it was but last transaction date was not on the same day), my wife was registered as living in Samut Prakan etc.

 

The deal breaker was the lack of rental receipts. We moved in to a new condo next week, so obviously didn’t have any receipts but had the original and copy of the rental agreement.

 

They told me I have two chances: 

- book a 60 day visa extension at Muang Thong Thani in the 25th of September, wait until 14 days left in the extension then try again 

- change TM30 to my wife’s condo (she owns it) in Samut Prakan and go to the immigration office there and start again 

 

The second option is the best but she has rented the condo out, so we would have to ask the renter to stay away during the visitation day... not sure if that’s a good idea or not, when do they tell you about visitation? On the day before?

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After the anger is gone (they really riled me and my wife up, super difficult and unhelpful) I’m starting to think the Muang Thong Thani is the best option, as the Samut Prakan one is too risky if we get caught cheating the system.

 

I have made an appointment for the 18th of September for a Visa Extension (counter K). If I can get that then we will have (almost) 3 months of receipts at the end of the extension which should be enough. I’m thinking about paying in advance for the rent due on the third month and ask the landlord for a receipt.

The immigration officers suggested this themselves, so they might allow us to go through even with basically 2,5 months in this new condo.

 

If anyone has a better option please let me know.

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16 hours ago, Barnabe said:

They told me I have two chances: 

- book a 60 day visa extension at Muang Thong Thani in the 25th of September, wait until 14 days left in the extension then try again 

- change TM30 to my wife’s condo (she owns it) in Samut Prakan and go to the immigration office there and start again 

Sorry to hear about them being so picky specially in this situation. I never get a receipt for my condo payments just an ATM slip. But the rental agreement is on the wife's name.

 

So the 60 day extensions when on tourist visa are done at Muang Thong Thani after all? Ubonjoe earlier said these are done at CW.

 

But they did confirm that 60 day extension is possible while on tourist visa/visa exempt and under amnesty? Also why wait till last day? If you get it now it should start on the 26th anyway?

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6 minutes ago, Jackie66 said:

So the 60 day extensions when on tourist visa are done at Muang Thong Thani after all? Ubonjoe earlier said these are done at CW.

Apparently they have changed it to Muang Thong Thani. At CW they were doing them at a different section than those shown for there.

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2 hours ago, Jackie66 said:

Sorry to hear about them being so picky specially in this situation. I never get a receipt for my condo payments just an ATM slip. But the rental agreement is on the wife's name.

 

So the 60 day extensions when on tourist visa are done at Muang Thong Thani after all? Ubonjoe earlier said these are done at CW.

 

But they did confirm that 60 day extension is possible while on tourist visa/visa exempt and under amnesty? Also why wait till last day? If you get it now it should start on the 26th anyway?


Same here, the rental contract is in my wife’s name. But that wasn’t the problem, the problem was that it coincided with our move (in the past week) to the new condo, hence no receipts. With her condo being rented this is the perfect storm.

The wait for the last day is to ensure that when the extension expires on the 25th of November I have 3 months of receipts to show. They said if I go there now the date will start from the day I go there.
 

However I prefer to play it safe and book for the 18th of September to give me a few days to have an alternative or return there if they are too picky.

I think I will focus on getting a 60 day extension now so I don’t get kicked out and worry about the rest later. 

 

@ubonjoe What do you think of this plan? They directed me to a web page where I booked a visit to MTT on the 18th, choosing “Applying for short term visa at Muang Thong Thani (counter K)”. 
I know this was their advice but I don’t trust them 100%.

 

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18 hours ago, Barnabe said:

They started implicating with everything, the pictures are not aligned, bank passbook is not updated (it was but last transaction date was not on the same day), my wife was registered as living in Samut Prakan etc.

You need to file a new TM30 and supply signed copies of the landlords Tabien Baan and ID card as proof of your address. It's immaterial where your wife is registered as your not residing there.

 

Update the book in branch, not at the ATM.

They should be able to update to same day, if not, deposit 100 baht, then update.

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10 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

You need to file a new TM30 and supply signed copies of the landlords Tabien Baan and ID card as proof of your address. It's immaterial where your wife is registered as your not residing there.

 

Update the book in branch, not at the ATM.

They should be able to update to same day, if not, deposit 100 baht, then update.

 

Yeah they told me that about the passbook. There was some heated discussion in Thai between them and my wife until they finally stopped complaining about her residence, but the rental receipts was the real deal breaker here.

 

They also told me that the bank guarantee is valid for 7 days?

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Personally, I've never known rental receipts being requested providing you've filed the TM30, and submitted signed copies of landlords TB and ID card + rental contract.

 

The amount in the passbook must match that in the letter.

If you need to deposit 100 baht to update the passbook, do that first before requesting the letter.

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@Barnabe

Hi, after the hell-time they gave you, you are probably not keen to have to go there in person again to do the TM-30 notification they require.

But the good news is that that is not necessary at all, as you can register the place that you (a foreigner) is staying on the IO TM-30 website, which would then allow you to file a TM-30 of yourself (as well as any other foreigner) staying at the premisses and make a screen-shot of that TM-30 showing that you are in compliance.

I did PM you a step-by-step instruction on how to register on the IO TM-30 website (either as owner, on behalf of the owner or as tenant) and subsequently file a TM-30 of you staying there.

It's relatively easy if you know how (hence the step-by-step instruction).

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9 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Personally, I've never known rental receipts being requested providing you've filed the TM30, and submitted signed copies of landlords TB and ID card + rental contract.

 

The amount in the passbook must match that in the letter.

If you need to deposit 100 baht to update the passbook, do that first before requesting the letter.

 

I have been to immigration many times, although only for visa extensions, and I never found such a bunch of unhelpful officers.

I understand if I don't meet the requirements, but their job should be to explain it to me what is exactly needed, give alternatives, etc, not act like <deleted> and throw their hands in the air and say "cannot". We went to two different ones and they actually had different requirements for some of the stuff.

 

The fact is that they specifically told me that the rental receipts were a deal breaker. This was confirmed by all officers around, including the head officer.

Hence I think the best move for me is to get that extension now and worry about the visa later.

 

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