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Do i need to get my visa first or register for repatriation flight?

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Okay completely confused. This whole process is crazy.

 

Do i need to get my visa first (which i assumed i would need to) or do i register for a repatriation flight first?

 

I am completely confused, because i am going through the process of completing the visa form (as someone who is eligible to return). So i assumed the order was as follows :

 

1) Get visa

2) Register for repatriation flight

3) Once you get offer for repatriation flight go through the COE process

 

But someone has now thrown a spanner in the works and told me to go register for a flight first, before i even start with the visa.

 

Also, they only issue you a visa for 3 months, so what if you can't get on a flight in that time frame?

 

PLEASE HELP ME WITH THE ORDER !!!!  The Thai embassy reply to me this week took the urine - telling me to phone them, when they have never a answered a single call for 2 months !

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Applying for the visa and certificate of entry are done at the same time as far as I know.

Since the visa allows you to enter the country with it for 3 months I am certain you would get on a flight before then.

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I talked to the Thai Embassy UK about this and they said i could submit for a Non B first.

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13 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Applying for the visa and certificate of entry are done at the same time as far as I know.

Since the visa allows you to enter the country with it for 3 months I am certain you would get on a flight before then.

 

Certificate of Residency? Do you mean Certificate of Entry?

 

Don't tell me there's another certificate i am not aware about, lol

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9 hours ago, Greghuntleyuk said:

Certificate of Residency? Do you mean Certificate of Entry?

Fixed now. Sorry

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I Just went the through the online application process (Los Angeles) and I cannot advance to obtain my COE until I submit a commercial flight. I found a one-way flight for $419.00 for October. So I am not happy about having to spend that extra money just to advance in the process, knowing I will have to fight with the airline later to get that money back. Why are they requiring this? Also, I did not complete the online application because I didn't want to book the flight yet... now when I go back to the online application it says not to complete the application again or it may slow down the process but to use the "EDIT LINK" anyone had any experience with the EDIT LINK? I don't see that link now when I go back in. I did not complete the last page of uploads, because I didn't have a flight booked yet and I didn't submit the application so maybe that is why? 

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23 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said:

I cannot advance to obtain my COE until I submit a commercial flight.

Sorry that is just wrong? If you need a flight use the ihanatours its listed on the embassy. They gave out a list of repatriation flights. Ihanatour gives you confirmation letter for the embassy and you don't have to pay upfront. 

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9 minutes ago, Wars said:

Sorry that is just wrong? If you need a flight use the ihanatours its listed on the embassy. They gave out a list of repatriation flights. Ihanatour gives you confirmation letter for the embassy and you don't have to pay upfront. 

Ok. I found it. That is certainly helpful it appears, I have not tried to book on the site yet so we shall see. They really should put this information embedded at the start of the application... It is incompetence like this that gets us all frustrated and confused... https://ihanatour.com/thai

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5 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said:

Ok. I found it. That is certainly helpful it appears, I have not tried to book on the site yet so we shall see. They really should put this information embedded at the start of the application... It is incompetence like this that gets us all frustrated and confused... https://ihanatour.com/thai

Yeah they have a FAQ https://thaiembdc.org/2020/07/23/faq-for-non-thais-wishing-to-enter-thailand-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/

https://thaiembdc.org/visas/

lots of info. Nothing commercial is flying in so don't waste your money on that. You gonna be busy calling up the ASQ's to find matching dates for the flights. 

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1 hour ago, Tounge Thaied said:

Ok. I found it. That is certainly helpful it appears, I have not tried to book on the site yet so we shall see. They really should put this information embedded at the start of the application... It is incompetence like this that gets us all frustrated and confused... https://ihanatour.com/thai

The reason why they don't give that info out is because you need to submit your application first.

Only after they check it for compliance they get back to you and tell to book the ASQ room and flights via provided in that response designated agencies and email links.

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1 hour ago, unheard said:

The reason why they don't give that info out is because you need to submit your application first.

Only after they check it for compliance they get back to you and tell to book the ASQ room and flights via provided in that response designated agencies and email links.

Which is why I made my original comment. To submit the application, I have to purchase a commercial flight before the application will submit. A flight that we all know will not be used... why are they requiring that?

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Greg,

about 1 week ago before the message that all flights in August were full, there was a clear message on the Thai embassy website stating that “Visa, and COE” would be dealt with once a repatriation flight has been secured and paid for, only then would a Visa and COE be issued. 
Just as confused as you 

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10 hours ago, Tounge Thaied said:

Which is why I made my original comment. To submit the application, I have to purchase a commercial flight before the application will submit. A flight that we all know will not be used... why are they requiring that?

This was exactly the problem I experienced.  So I tried just creating a PDF note saying I would book my flight as soon as they set up flights for my intended departure timeframe of early Sep.  I uploaded that and then I could submit the COE application.  The LA consulate then responded that my application couldn't proceed without a flight booking.  I also asked all the approved airline booking agents if they could issue me some form of confirmation for a Sep. flight - NOPE.

 

They essentially make it nearly impossible if you want to fly early in the following month as they don't release the flight schedule until the last week of the current month.  Since it takes a few days to process the COE then the ASQ hotels are full by the time you can get a flight.

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The UK Thai embassy has different requirements to that of those in the USA, from my understanding from the UK Thai Embassy there is no need to book ASQ or phantom flights that do not exist, requirements are to register for the repatriation flight first going forward ! 

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On 8/15/2020 at 8:25 PM, stubuzz said:

I talked to the Thai Embassy UK about this and they said i could submit for a Non B first.

BOI have approved my application so in theory i can now apply for a non-IB and jump through the hoops to get on a flight.  So that's what i'm about to embark on. Departing from UK.

 

Have just being reading the Royal Thai Embassy London website to understand the sequence.

 

Their website's general Visa page says "It is advised that visa application should not be submitted until applicants have been notified by the Embassy that their requests for the Certificate of Entry have been approved."  And if you click a link to apply in person/by post you then get the message "Due to the current COVID-19 pandemic, foreigners wishing to go to Thailand have to apply for the Certificate of Entry".  When I follow the link provided taking you to requirements for COE, I see for my situation (and it seems for others too), it says if you don't have a visa then apply for it and the COE at the same time.  So I will start the online application now - as it says covid Health Insurance and hotel booking for ASQ + declaration cannot be uploaded but are provided in hard copies when you submit your passport.

 

Hopefully there is nothing that trips me up with the online visa application.

 

For the repatriation flight registration, the site requires personal details etc. Each of which have an asterisk next to them.  The field where you upload your ASQ doesn't.  Usually on a form, it says somewhere that asterisked fields are compulsory.  Has anybody tried to register without uploading a booking?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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