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17 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

But why? iPhone already has 2 factor authentication. So why would I need/want it? Serious question.

if the iPhone has 2 factor authentication built in that you can just add 2 fact auth to sites like Amazon, Discord, Firefox, Gmail, Teamviewer, etc.

then I agree it's not necessary to have Google Authenticator.  Twilio Authy is much better alternative than Google Auth and I use it for 2FA for 22 sites + there is zero need to worry about backups.

 

anyways, some people like alternatives.. so It's like saying Windows comes with Internet Explorer/Edge already. So why would I need/want to use Google Chrome, Opera or Mozilla Firefox?

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You must have an Apple ID and access to iCloud which is generally enough space to backup your apps and restore them to a new iPhone.   Do you backup your iPhone to your computer PC/Mac?  

How do you know as the OP doesn't appear to have mentioned it?  If one has an Apple ID then it 5GB of free storage and iCloud storage is generally enough to backup apps.  I turn off everything else an

You certainly are missing something- the point of the thread which is to determine if the google authenticator functions are transferred to a new phone with the data transfer. Its a big issue if its a

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so my advice is, if you need a 2FA app..

 

disconnect everything from Google Auth

get new phone

download Twilio Authy instead and use that

 

you'll thank me later.

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57 minutes ago, kekalot said:

if you need a 2FA app..

Some web sites I visit specifically asked me to input my Google verification code which I get from Google Authenticator.

 

Doesn't this mean I must use it, and transfer it to a new phone when I get one? Or will the other 2FA apps work also? I am a newbie at this so don't know.

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3 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Some web sites I visit specifically asked me to input my Google verification code which I get from Google Authenticator.

 

Doesn't this mean I must use it, and transfer it to a new phone when I get one? Or will the other 2FA apps work also? I am a newbie at this so don't know.

Some sites actually recommend using Google Authenticator as the holder of their Time Based passcode to furnish them the required token. This has nothing to do with Google, except use of their software to help keep and generate the code when requested.

 

Any similar authenticator will do the same thing.

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7 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

 

But why? iPhone already has 2 factor authentication. So why would I need/want it? Serious question.

its an added layer of security eg getting into my crypto account. Many other apps use it as well. Its great security

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22 hours ago, bbabythai said:

its an added layer of security eg getting into my crypto account. Many other apps use it as well. Its great security

 

Ok, understood. I just hadn't come across any app that suggested or requested it.

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13 hours ago, Eindhoven said:
On 8/18/2020 at 8:34 PM, bbabythai said:

its an added layer of security eg getting into my crypto account. Many other apps use it as well. Its great security

 

Ok, understood. I just hadn't come across any app that suggested or requested it.

It is not unusual to have that added security. Although my devices have apple’s security I also have a program that has another layer of security that has things like my passport, driving licenses, Tax information, almost all my important documents together with about 600 different user names and passwords.

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15 hours ago, Eindhoven said:
On 8/18/2020 at 8:34 PM, bbabythai said:

its an added layer of security eg getting into my crypto account. Many other apps use it as well. Its great security

Ok, understood. I just hadn't come across any app that suggested or requested it.

I don't think you'll run into it unless you go looking for the option to enable 2FA (Two Factor Authentication) on a login account. Then you may see a how-to guide for your login service suggest Google Authenticator but it's just one of many 2FA/MFA end-user programs that can be used to handle the time-based password / token-key authentication mechanism. Otherwise, as you say, most apps don't even suggest or require it. The go-to 2FA type for banking apps is the FingerPrint scanner, and before that it was the SMS text pin code.

 

 

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First, two things.

  1. Keep your backup codes
  2. Keep your old phone

From what I have found, you will need to use the "change" option on each of your 2-step verification enabled apps/sites. This will most likely require you to log into each account using your current 2-step verification process first (hence the use of backup codes or your old phone).

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Reporting back on my thread today. I moved data to a new iphone and no, the google authenticator codes were

not transferred. All other apps were successfully transferred but not this app. 

 

IMHO the developer needs a serious kicking. If one loses ones phone then theres a big nightmare being locked out of many apps bc of Google authenticator. Very stupid functionality

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13 hours ago, bbabythai said:

Reporting back on my thread today. I moved data to a new iphone and no, the google authenticator codes were

not transferred. All other apps were successfully transferred but not this app. 

 

IMHO the developer needs a serious kicking. If one loses ones phone then theres a big nightmare being locked out of many apps bc of Google authenticator. Very stupid functionality

IMNSHO it is the correct way to do it. There is good security or convenience. 
 

Good free security is not usually convenient.

 

Your fingerprint data is not transferred, it’s good security.

 

AFIK the Authenticator uses QR codes to register apps, this time make a backup, keep the backup in a secure location for the next time.

The developer has a responsibility for security, they fulfilled it, the rest is up to you Unless you are paying.


did you do the transfer correctly?

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How do I transfer my Google Authenticator to a new phone?
Open Google's 2-Step Verification page in a browser and log into your Googleaccount when it asks you. In the “Authenticator app” section of the page, click “Change Phone.” Choose the kind of phone you are migrating to and click “Next.” You should now see the “Set up Authenticator” screen, complete with barcode.


I don’t know if this will transfer your data as well.

 

How did you transfer your data?  48B53135-434F-4D4F-A840-7D782583D5ED.jpeg.ae9bd62cc22d1a54319636b3d83d8563.jpeg
 

how much did you pay for the app? 

There are commercial apps that are easier, I use 1Password it has the same ability to authenticate, it’s easy to use on multiple devices.

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On 9/2/2020 at 5:14 PM, bbabythai said:

Reporting back on my thread today. I moved data to a new iphone and no, the google authenticator codes were

not transferred. All other apps were successfully transferred but not this app. 

 

IMHO the developer needs a serious kicking. If one loses ones phone then theres a big nightmare being locked out of many apps bc of Google authenticator. Very stupid functionality

There is an alternative for "Google Authenticator" it's called "Lockdown" (oke weird name in the current circumstances) this app syncs to your icloud and you just install it on another (iphone/ipad) device and you can use it on that (new) device as well.

 

Link: http://cocoaapp.com/lockdown/

 

Ps: It's not free

 

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Lockdown is a secure two-factor authentication app that works with any online service that is compatible with Google Authenticator or 1Password 2FA.

 
 
 
  • Data is automatically backed up with iCloud's CloudKit service and iTunes backups for restoring later for the ultimate two-factor authentication experience.
  • Syncing to multiple devices means that you can safely log into your online accounts no matter which device you're using.
  • If you forget or lose your device, or have to restore iOS on your device, you can easily pull down a backup of your data from iCloud without having to setup your two-factor accounts again.
  • Use TouchID on iPhone 5s or better to keep prying eyes from looking at your accounts stored in Lockdown.

 

 

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10 hours ago, MJCM said:

There is an alternative for "Google Authenticator" it's called "Lockdown" (oke weird name in the current circumstances) this app syncs to your icloud and you just install it on another (iphone/ipad) device and you can use it on that (new) device as well.

There are actually many apps that have the same function. The one I have is 1Password but the 2 factor is only a tiny part of it’s capability. I’ve been using it since the iPod version 2

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On 8/18/2020 at 4:18 PM, Eindhoven said:

 

But why? iPhone already has 2 factor authentication. So why would I need/want it? Serious question.

Wow, I thought you were really stupid, but now I think you are just trolling and taking the <deleted>.

 

OP:

 

I too wanted to do this, but run on two phones at the same time, and my research has suggested that you need to first go to all of your 2FA websites, login, switch off 2FA, then switch it on again and scan the new QR code for each website on both phones at the same time.

 

Then check afterwards that you can use either phone to authenticate, and then you should be safe to trash the old phone,

 

Hope this is more helpful 

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Assuming you have both phones, install Authenticator on the new phone then use the export accounts function in Authenticator on the old phone to generate a QR code that you scan with the import accounts function in Authenticator on the new phone. If you have many accounts, it might generate 2 or 3 QR codes. This is for Android, apologies if the Authenticator app on Apple is different.

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