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FYI a farang owned condo is only tax exempt if the farang owner has a Yellow tabien bahn in his or her name, this is because the blue tabien bahn has no name in it in the case of a farang owner.

Why would you pay a lawyer 1500 baht per condo when tax cost for your 2 condo would be only 136 baht after discount applied?   Even if you missed the discount date total tax would still only

Yes, city hall was a zoo but the accountant battled through it and got the tax paid.  Oddly, 198 baht total in tax, which at least was expressed to me as 99 baht per unit.  Obviously, I would anticipa

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11 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Exactly, a lot faffing about by the sound of this thread

Yes, they don't make it easy.  However, on balance, it is still better to pony up now and go through it rather than wait and accumulate additional levies as fines.  That's just my take though.  Each to their own.  I paid an accountant 20X the tax to handle it.  In retrospect, I probably should have waited as my condo admin team appear to be stepping up now and may handle it.  Anyway, I wanted peace of mind.  I am not there on the ground and I prefer to have stuff like this done and dusted. 

 

Next year, I will try to handle it more cost effectively through LINE and the admin team.  I was prompted to use the accountant by the apparent deadline for discount of Aug 31st.  This has now been extended to the end of October. 

 

The only ways to find out the amount due is to either go to city hall and ask or to contact them over LINE with all your property details and with some delay they may get back to you with the sum due.  if they do, all you need to do is a bank transfer.  

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13 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

if they can't be bothered to send bills out I don't see why we should be bothered to waste time struggling to pay it, I'm out

1 hour ago, Henryford said:

If they don't send out bills (i haven't had one) how do you know how much to pay?


Lots of threads running in the housing forum about this tax.

 

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Mr Prayoon Rattanaseni, Director-General of the Department of Local Administration (DLA), explained this week that where it is the case that the DLA has not sent an assessment notification to the taxpayer, it is considered the taxpayer has no burden to pay tax under the law. 

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Mr. Lavaron Saengsanit, Director-General of the Fiscal Policy Office, Ministry of Finance, explained that should a member of the public not receive a tax assessment notification, or the deadline for tax payment is extended or postponed, they will not have to pay a fine or surcharges. Some local administrative organizations have now extended the tax deadlinebeyond the end of August. Meanwhile, many local administrative organizations as well as Bangkok Metropolitan Administration are considering extending the deadline for the payment of the tax.

 

 

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Since I got my notice this year and paid it I expect by routine I'll receive it again in April. Definately going to head there as soon as it drops to avoid the crowds. I seemed to dodge a bullet with ease of payment on Friday which I can only put down to having gone there in March or April and getting some sort of signed handwritten calculation on my assessment sheet. It's the only thing I can think of that seemed to fast track me on the day compared to what others have reported. I should add there were zero queues when I went back in March/April, my friend managed to pay his then but they wouldn't accept it from me at that time. 

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5 hours ago, Henryford said:

If they don't send out bills (i haven't had one) how do you know how much to pay?

You have to go and get the bill for this initial billing period from City Hall. They need to see your Chanote to correctly determine the payment amount and your name in Thai and your house book for cross referencing data.

 

In subsequent years, they'll probably mail it to you.

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Report on my visit to pattaya city hall today thursday  3 sept to pay the tax.

Same place and mostly similar to what Banana7 stated earlier, however there were total about 40 to 50 people.

Got there about 11.20am

First step short wait, gave the chanotes and blue book (falang -no name). They did not need copies. Thats all they needed, did not want my passport.

From that i got a new pink number.

Waited about 20 minutes they give you the statement of assesment and tax due 0.02 %. And  the reduced discount figure.

White ticket was attached to queue for payment. That took the longest.

I was concerned that it was lunch time. Staff started taking their lunch but some continued with the payments. I got my payment done about 12.20.

So it took about 1 hour in total.

Seemed reasonably organised. Clearly potential for queue jumpers, but not a problem in my visit. Except for one old frail lady with walking stick was given priority. No problem with that.

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50 minutes ago, jojothai said:

gave the chanotes and blue book (falang -no name). They did not need copies. Thats all they needed, did not want my passport.

 

White ticket was attached to queue for payment. That took the longest.

 

Jojothai, thanks for report.

I take it you were Not claiming the property as you're primary residence (since you stated you paid the bill).

 

Or rather, were you indeed claiming the property as your primary residence, but they did not regard your documents as sufficient evidence / proof to avoid the tax?

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54 minutes ago, OneZero said:

Jojothai, thanks for report.

I take it you were Not claiming the property as you're primary residence (since you stated you paid the bill).

 

Or rather, were you indeed claiming the property as your primary residence, but they did not regard your documents as sufficient evidence / proof to avoid the tax?

Your point is well noted.

I was not claiming as my residence so there was no need to follow through with them on that issue.

Useful if other people can let us know what happened if they had to claim it was main residence, and if that caused any problem or more documents were required.

FYI, I have my main residence in bangkok, and the district sent me a notification in june by registered post that indicates as my residence and showing zero tax, so i did not get taxed there.

For that, all i had to do was sign a card that was included and send it back to them.

It would be good if the rest of the districts did something similar, but clearly that has not happened.

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9 hours ago, OneZero said:

Jojothai, thanks for report.

I take it you were Not claiming the property as you're primary residence (since you stated you paid the bill).

 

Or rather, were you indeed claiming the property as your primary residence, but they did not regard your documents as sufficient evidence / proof to avoid the tax?

if main residence you don't have to pay this circ 20 baht tax?

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1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

if main residence you don't have to pay this circ 20 baht tax?

Thats what i understand.

There is an exemption for individuals declared resident up to a value of 10 million baht.

The tax is 0.02% of the assessed value of the property.

That is this year. I think it was going to be 0.03% and may be that next year. Have to check for advice online.

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  Visited PCH today

 

Simple 3 stage process.

Paid 48 Baht  for my 75M condo.

 

Next year 480 Baht . Must be before 31st April 2021

 

The hardest part was parking.

 

Motorbike(me) -bit of a struggle.

Car -somewhere between very difficult and impossible.

Suggest the use a motorbike -if possible

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51 minutes ago, Delight said:

  Visited PCH today

 

Simple 3 stage process.

Paid 48 Baht  for my 75M condo.

 

Next year 480 Baht . Must be before 31st April 2021

 

The hardest part was parking.

 

Motorbike(me) -bit of a struggle.

Car -somewhere between very difficult and impossible.

Suggest the use a motorbike -if possible

that your main and only property? if it is it's meant to be zero baht, next year maybe not they told me, they asked me to phone again next year, I decided it's not worth it, they seem very disorganised hence bills not being sent out

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never seen wife so angry.  Ban Amphur office at about 2.00pm yesterday.  1 person in queue.  Staff chatting, mobiling and disappearing.  Took nearly one hour to pay B30.  Good to see her spirit, but of course to no avail

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On 8/26/2020 at 12:51 PM, Banana7 said:

Which visas are qualifying visas for the yellow book? Is a retirement "O" a qualify visa? Where can the blue book be exchanged for the yellow book?

This depends on your office where to obtain the yellow book (you actually not exchange the blue book for a yellow book).
You become an yellow book extra to your existing blue book, which should be probably empty.

 

About Visa, I made my yellow book a few years ago (4-5) with only a visa except stamp in it. I think if you have an O-Visa or extension based on retirement or marriage then you should be on the safe side. I also heard from some they only become if they are married.. so every office handles it a little bit different. The best is you go there and check what the requirements from your office are!

 

good luck

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I got these papers also. Seems the sqm number for my house is way bigger than the actual house is so wonder if anyone had the same issue, and went in to challenge the number, and if so, any success?

 

As long as tax rates remain like this (ridiculously low...), does not matter. However I think it is more than certain they go up in future - whether will go to same level as in the old system is the question (in my case 3xx bath vs 7500 baht annually).

 

Anyway, will go city hall later with house drawings to ask...maybe the sqm number as basis for tax is what is allowed to build in the plot, not the actual size. Will see...

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