Ireland32 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, fdsa said: I totally agree. Sell harmless drugs like LSD or MDMA, not killing drugs like meth or cocaine. Cocaine kills , Really , your dentist uses it , duh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Matzzon said: That will somehow send a little bit of message. It will not as has been proven, it only makes criminals more criminal, and in the case of drugs risks and prices higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, herwin1234 said: In too many farang countries he would have been a free man in a decade, give or take a few years. Lets hope THAILAND doesnt get infected with these liberal ideas but stays strong and fair. A convict in New Zealand, William Dwane Bell murdered three people (and had more than 100 other criminal convictions)--he got 30 years for a triple murder. He'll be 53 when he gets out. That's an outrageous miscarriage of justice, and I'd bet my life's savings he'll kill again when he's out. The NZ authorities apparently have no clue about either criminology or victimology. They need to read John Douglas' "Mindhunter" and "Journey into Darkness." Douglas along with Robert Ressler (who coined the term "serial killer") was the original FBI profiler and also the lead author of the FBI's Crime Classification Manual. He would be aghast. Meanwhile the families he's ruined will be worrying about their safety once he's out. Edited August 29, 2020 by Dustdevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvdo Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 6 hours ago, JoePai said: Excellent news - carry out sentence tomorrow please Agree with the conviction even when this could eventually change into life prison. However what interests me most .. how does this seemingly effective operation of Thai institutions, police and justice compare to the BOSS case ? OK, there was 'only' one death and no drugs trade, but why Thai folks don't make a point that apparently the system is capable to find and convict criminals whereas in another case in which the evidence is even more overwhelming, they can't. We know the reasons why, but why the public opinion doesn't insist to have an answer to this question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Thailand frequently sentences people to the death sentence but it's rarely carried out as the govt usually commutes it to a life in prison X-years later. Once commuted then time for good behavior and/or sentence reduction can occur which means the death sentence went to a life in prison sentence then to a lessor sentence....and then release from prison after 10-30 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Thailand#:~:text=Thailand retains the death penalty,persons remain on death row. Quote Capital punishment in Thailand From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search Thailand, as of 2018, is one of 58 nations that retains capital punishment. Of the 10 ASEAN nations, only Cambodia and the Philippines have outlawed it, though Laos and Brunei have not conducted executions for decades.[1] Thailand retains the death penalty, but carries it out only sporadically. Since 1935 Thailand has executed 326 persons, 319 by gunshot—the last on 11 December 2003—and seven by lethal injection (the latest was executed on 18 June 2018). As of March 2018, 510 persons remain on death row.[2] As of October 2019, 59 of them are women, 58 of them for drug-related offenses.[3]:31 Bang Khwang Central Prison contains the nation's primary death row, but death rows are present for both men and women in provincial prisons.[1] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Bob12345 said: Doubt it, as thailand already has the death sentence and they still committed the crime. It does reduce repeat offences though. Or would, if the sentences were actually carried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 6 hours ago, JoePai said: Excellent news - carry out sentence tomorrow please Did you take into account that around 5-6 percent of the executed were in fact innocent? Which actually means the state committed murder? And do you really have such high regards for the investigators seen the admissions of guilt and the automatic building of the case around the admission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Bender Rodriguez said: if caught with that amount, in your car, a quick death instead of years of waiting oh, that was taksin style, right ? any high level drug people murdered during the extraductal killings under Thaksin? think you'll find the answer is No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhonchai nick Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, Victornoir said: Death inflicted on willful murderers can be supported. But not for traffickers and other legal offenses. The sentence will not be applied and the guilty will be pardoned in 10 or 15 years. So much the better. Death for pre-meditated murder, child rape and armed robbery (death/ injury or not) Drug related crimes such as this and other very serious crimes should have a life sentence where LIFE MEANS LIFE. No pardons for good behaviour, royal birthday pardons, old age etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneM Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Matzzon said: That will somehow send a little bit of message. Death sentences have never send out any message whatsoever. Crime never decreased because of it... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagull Sam Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 All very gung ho, chest beating stuff. I was attacked by a drug crazed bar girl on my last visit, repeatedly kicking & stamping on my already injured head. Now I have difficulty walking unaided. I know the damage yaba can do. Execution is wrong in all cases, end of. Summary justice? This isn't a John Wayne movie. Or perhaps you would like to live in the Wild West. Howdy partner let's give them thar baddies a woppin! Yee Haa! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 7 hours ago, JoePai said: Excellent news - carry out sentence tomorrow please How can you delight in the misfortune of others? In my opinion a life sentence is more than enough. They will be pardoned for sure, all for show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, Dustdevil said: A convict in New Zealand, William Dwane Bell murdered three people (and had more than 100 other criminal convictions)--he got 30 years for a triple murder. He'll be 53 when he gets out. That's an outrageous miscarriage of justice, and I'd bet my life's savings he'll kill again when he's out. The NZ authorities apparently have no clue about either criminology or victimology. They need to read John Douglas' "Mindhunter" and "Journey into Darkness." Douglas along with Robert Ressler (who coined the term "serial killer") was the original FBI profiler and also the lead author of the FBI's Crime Classification Manual. He would be aghast. Meanwhile the families he's ruined will be worrying about their safety once he's out. Don't you believe in rehabilitation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, hvdo said: Agree with the conviction even when this could eventually change into life prison. However what interests me most .. how does this seemingly effective operation of Thai institutions, police and justice compare to the BOSS case ? OK, there was 'only' one death and no drugs trade, but why Thai folks don't make a point that apparently the system is capable to find and convict criminals whereas in another case in which the evidence is even more overwhelming, they can't. We know the reasons why, but why the public opinion doesn't insist to have an answer to this question. You know the answer and so do society. Only expats here seem to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Bob12345 said: Doubt it, as thailand already has the death sentence and they still committed the crime. The way to make a statement is for them to actually carryout the sentence 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 hours ago, soalbundy said: It won't happen Envelope time....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 it will not happen but it sure will scare a few people for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtemple Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 hours ago, jesimps said: Who cares if it sends a message or not. Put them down and save the taxpayers the cost of keeping them in jail. The moral of this tale is if you don't want to face a death sentence, don't sell hard drugs. Seems such a simple choice to me. Hopefully they will start executing Farang drug dealers too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, simtemple said: Hopefully they will start executing Farang drug dealers too. What about the boys with the shiny buttons ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odisan Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Though I have no sympathy for any of these, the fact the 7 who pleaded guilty got the same sentence as the one who didn't means no-one's ever going to do it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Benmart said: Not my country, and not my business to cry out for death or leniency. So happy for that. You're happy it's not your country? Yet happy to live here, I wonder why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Matzzon said: That will somehow send a little bit of message. Dream on, little Dreamer???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, simtemple said: Hopefully they will start executing Farang drug dealers too. Most start off as drug addicts, why not just execute them? I expect people like you think they are evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, DrTuner said: It does reduce repeat offences though. Or would, if the sentences were actually carried out. You know what brings offences to zero? Killing everyone. Big solution: nuclear war. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trucking Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 21 hours ago, rooster59 said: They were in the lookout or lead vehicle. Sounds like the police were tipped off. They knew what they were looking for otherwise not much of a lookout vehicle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Eight people less to spread a drug who make the addict crazy after a short period of use. Well done to the justice system, hope all drug dealers learn something from this sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, kingstonkid said: The way to make a statement is for them to actually carryout the sentence Any evidence that would result in less crime? Many countries have tried different approaches, nowhere is there any evidence that death penalties (carried out or not) are effective to keep others from doing the same. And look around you in traffic... want to change the risk of your kid dying at a minor accident brought from "very high" to "minimal" by putting him in a child seat? Many don't bother, they take the risk. Same with wearing a helmet on the motorbike, not driving while under the influence, or or not sitting in the back of a pickup... People don't think about the consequences, cause they think it wont happen to them. The next drug dealer with 500kg will just continue, because he wont get caught. Or he will bribe his way out. No matter the possible consequences, many people keep taking huge risks (even with barely any return, like in traffic). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzupnow Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 boss redbull number 9? he is into meth and coke too oo my mistake he has money, i am getting stupid in my old age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, ujayujay said: Dream on, little Dreamer???? So, why don't you deal drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoCesar Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 There are certain ppl in the gov and police that deserves the same sentence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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