Buying milk to put in tea and coffee

[bluesofa]

Asking for milk in a shop is not always straightforward as you might imagine.

As a Brit I put milk in my tea and coffee - that’s fresh pasteurised milk.

Buying in a supermarket is not a problem as you can choose the type you want from the cool cabinet.

 

Out in the sticks I find it more difficult, it seems due to the Thai perception of types of milk when you have to ask for it.

 

Nom sod (นมสด) to me means fresh milk. Asking for that in a shop will usually get you a tin of Carnation (very) sweetened milk.

Explaining I want it to put in hot tea results in the shopkeeper agreeing, and still pointing to the Carnation milk.

I have to ask for nom jud (นมจืด) - plain milk. Often the small shops will only have Thai-Denmark UHT long-life milk in a blue carton, (although I still get offered the sweetened version of Thai-Denmark UHT milk in a green carton).

[IvorBiggun2]

Go to the cold drinks cabinet and see if it's in there, and if it isn't, then they don't sell it. Most mom & pa shops only sell UHT milk as it has a long shelf life. Never use UHT milk to make tea. ????

[colinneil]

Well Bluesofa your gonna have a BIG problem if/ when you visit me.

Putting milk in tea.... Yuk, why adulterate a good cuppa tea with milk?

[bluesofa]

2 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Go to the cold drinks cabinet and see if it's in there, and if it isn't, then they don't sell it. Most mom & pa shops only sell UHT milk as it has a long shelf life. Never use UHT milk to make tea. ????

I know what you mean. However, I sometimes have to buy the a small carton of the UHT when visiting a friend of another (unstated!) nationality.
 

The smaller shops often have everything behind the counter, hence my asking, and interest in how Thais perceive types of milk differently.

[bluesofa]

8 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Well Bluesofa your gonna have a BIG problem if/ when you visit me.

Putting milk in tea.... Yuk, why adulterate a good cuppa tea with milk?

I've always put milk in tea. It's the way I was dragged brought up.

Perhaps coming from the midlands we were used to showing off that we had money, not like you the impoverished north.

[scorecard]

First point, 90% of Thais have little to zero knowledge or experience with all dairy products.

 

 

[stouricks]

14 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

I've always put milk in tea. It's the way I was dragged brought up.

Perhaps coming from the midlands we were used to showing off that we had money, not like you the impoverished north.

We always used to put milk in tea in Ashton-under-Lyne.

[PatOngo]

Milk in tea...........Nooooooo!

[Will27]

I reckon you're going get as much helpful feedback as you did in your Shopping Rant topic.

 

I'm going to get the popcorn.

[SteveK]

I'm British and I'd never drink a tea or coffee without at least a splash of fresh milk. I live in the absolute boondocks and there's several types of milk in the shops here, I get the 0% stuff because I'm trying to control my weight. I quite enjoy asking the girls in 7-Eleven for a big milk, always seems to get a laugh.

 

Get the Meiji stuff, you can get skimmed, semi-skimmed and full-fat. Available in even the most remote 7-Elevens.  

Edited September 1, 2020 by SteveK

[PatOngo]

11 minutes ago, scorecard said:

First point, 90% of Thais have little to zero knowledge or experience with all dairy products.

 

 

I was lead to believe they knew everything about everything!

[2 is 1]

Im not tea drinker, but my morning not start if im not get my morning coffee! Always put milk but never sugar! Almost all Thai coffee taste sht! Have bring coffee from Finland but its over long time ago! Now drink here Moccona gold. Find that has best taste.

Edited September 1, 2020 by 2 is 1

[SteveK]

1 minute ago, 2 is 1 said:

Im not tea drinker, but my morning not start if im not get my morning coffee! Always put milk but never sugar! Almost all Thai coffee taste sht! Have bring coffee from Finland but over long time ago! Now drink here Moccona gold. Find that best taste.

Thai coffee isn't good. Neither is the meat. Or their vegetables. Plus the beer sucks. You must be here for the poontang, which is decent. 

[SweatySock]

Agree with the OP that a cup of rosie should have a splash of fresh milk, not always easy to find out in the boondock however my fall back is a Nescafe with Coffeemate, that hits the spot in the morming.

[colinneil]

Just now, SteveK said:

Thai coffee isn't good. Neither is the meat. Or their vegetables. Plus the beer sucks. You must be here for the poontang, which is decent. 

Poontang???? Explain please.????????

[2 is 1]

Just now, SteveK said:

Thai coffee isn't good. Neither is the meat. Or their vegetables. Plus the beer sucks. You must be here for the poontang, which is decent. 

Thai just don't understand how should sell beef meat! They not "rare" cook that and its like chewing gum!

Good can find even some eatable from Makro. Vegetables has get some much fertilizer, like carrot is size of baseball bat!

[trucking]

14 hours ago, colinneil said:

Poontang???? Explain please.????????

Edited September 1, 2020 by trucking

[SteveK]

1 minute ago, colinneil said:

Poontang???? Explain please.????????

Colin you are a lovely guy, and I love your posts. But sometimes you are either a bit naive or are baiting me. Poontang is something which Thai girls call their "shells", you or I would say vagina. 

[bluesofa]

7 minutes ago, SteveK said:

Thai coffee isn't good. Neither is the meat. Or their vegetables. Plus the beer sucks. You must be here for the poontang, which is decent. 

You must be very thin.

[trucking]

14 hours ago, SteveK said:

Colin you are a lovely guy, and I love your posts. But sometimes you are either a bit naive or are baiting me. Poontang is something which Thai girls call their "shells", you or I would say vagina. 

 

I'd say a lot of other things but best not to in print.

[steven100]

Also Thai's are not the most concerned folk about keeping fresh milk cold even after delivery.

Who know how long a crate of milk has been sitting at the depot, not moved from cold room to cold room .... even in 7=11 fridges it doesn't seem very cold and milk should be very cold. 

Anyway,  the nearest taste to fresh milk I found was the Meiiji brand,  but not the tiny small bottle, only the mid size 450ml .  Others seem to taste funny, and not like milk.

[SteveK]

1 minute ago, bluesofa said:

You must be very thin.

77Kg and getting thinner.

[2 is 1]

1 minute ago, SteveK said:

They don't keep anything cold correctly. They don't repair things properly. They don't treat workers properly, either. They use too many agricultural chemicals. They don't drive properly. But the poontang is good.

You can continue that list forever lol. You forget : how they treat farang's ! ????

[Peterw42]

Dairy is only a recent thing in most of Asia and hasnrt really spread beyond western style supermarkets.

I recall backpacking through Thailand in the 1980s and milk didnt exist except for tinned or powdered. For many Thais, that is milk. My wife had never bought a carton of milk in her life until we lived together, it didnt exist.

Lots of Asians are lactose intolerant, having not grown up with milk as part of their diet.

[2 is 1]

2 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Lots of Asians are lactose intolerant, having not grown up with milk as part of their diet.

Hmm... i always think that smell is from sewer! That what wife say anyway! 

 

[bluesofa]

19 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Also Thai's are not the most concerned folk about keeping fresh milk cold even after delivery.

Who know how long a crate of milk has been sitting at the depot, not moved from cold room to cold room .... even in 7=11 fridges it doesn't seem very cold and milk should be very cold. 

Anyway,  the nearest taste to fresh milk I found was the Meiiji brand,  but not the tiny small bottle, only the mid size 450ml .  Others seem to taste funny, and not like milk.

Two cannibals eating a clown. One says to the other, "Does this taste funny to you?"

 

I buy the Meiji as well - the 830mL bottles. Ten at a time and put them in the freezer, same as I used to in the UK.

Here it takes four hours at room temperature to defrost a bottle.

[IvorBiggun2]

23 minutes ago, SteveK said:

They don't keep anything cold correctly.

It's well known that when a mom & pa shop closes at night they switch off the drinks cooler and switch it back on first thing believing they save electricity.

[bluesofa]

15 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Dairy is only a recent thing in most of Asia and hasnrt really spread beyond western style supermarkets.

I recall backpacking through Thailand in the 1980s and milk didnt exist except for tinned or powdered. For many Thais, that is milk. My wife had never bought a carton of milk in her life until we lived together, it didnt exist.

Lots of Asians are lactose intolerant, having not grown up with milk as part of their diet.

I agree about not finding milk here years ago. I remember my first year in Thailand in 1990 finding milk and coffee in Foodland in Patpong one afternoon.

 

The lactose intolerance must not be as common as it used to be, the kids have milk at school now - even if it is only UHT/longlife stuff.

[bendejo]

Another Meiji endorsement.  All the others are off my radar.  I'd rather take my coffee black, which I don't particularly enjoy.

 

 

[SteveK]

4 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

I agree about not finding milk here years ago. I remember my first year in Thailand in 1990 finding milk and coffee in Foodland in Patpong one afternoon.

Nowadays it's easier to find milk than poontang, and that's saying something!

 

And big milk is 44 baht in 7-Eleven.