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Can you believe this? We were at a repair shop the other day buying some brake parts and I happened to ask about what  the best oil would be for a Vigo Champ 2.5 Diesel Pre Runner, with a Turbo. )I want a good oil, that looks after the turbo and not some overpriced synthetic, just a regular oil that I can change every 5000KM, that is not braking the bank.

 

The guy there shows me this Mobil Oil... it is advertised as 40,000 KM between changes!!!! I was worrying about 10,000KM...I cannot believe any oil is good for that mileage!

 

So, any of you people out there that like to keep their oil in good condition, what do you recommend for a 2.5 Toyota D4D Turbo, as a 5000km decent oil? I am not interested in keeping the oil for 10000KM, I just would appreciate some advice on what works well with a turbo (never had a truck with one before) Just a reasonable oil that you would put in a Toyota and change every 5000 KM.

 

As always, good advice is greatly appreciated.

 

I was thinking of sticking to a main brand like Shell / Castrol or similar and just using 15W/40 or maybe 10W/30....any plusses or minuses? 0W30, 0W/40.... I only used 20W/50 in the UK, so I am an oil virgin!

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Let's pray, son. 

I gave back to the country yesterday, my pickup just clicked over 5000km and even though 1st oil change is not due till 15000km to make me feel good about doing my bit for the countryduring this pesky

Yes, which raises the question why is the OP not using what is recommended in the handbook ?

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Considering that it can reach over 40 degrees in Thailand a SAE xxW-50 oil would be a good choice, but i guess a xxW-40 oil is also sufficient. The number before the W is quite irrelevant for the temperatures here in Thailand.

Which other specifications are required and how often you are supposed to change it is written in your owner's manual.

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I used to use this ...  Mobil 1 turbo diesel pickup 5w‑40 ... I found that it stopped that 'rattle' on start up. Never found anything else that did.

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My mechanic changes the oil on my Vios every 5000 km, claims the rest of the car will wear out before the engine. He may be right.

The rule of thumb is 10,000 km max for a mineral oil with additives, 15,000 km for a semi-synthetic, 20,000 to 30,000 for a full synthetic. Cost goes up the more synthetic there is. IMO 40,000 is stretching the oil a fair bit.

Changing a full synthetic every 5000 km is wasteful. A recognized brand of non-synthetic is all that is needed for that frequency.

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Mineral...5000km, semi.....5/10000km, syn....10/15000km. I used syn in my Vigo upto around  15000km

Any ride with a turbo needs looking after, for me it would be a minimum of semi oil, has that little bit of extra protection, and the Vigo comes from factory with semi.

Most non turbo engines will go on for ever with anything in it, but the turbo is the thing that breaks down the oil, extreme heat, it needs the best for longevity.. 

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Assuming that the comments made are chiefly from old geezers that lugged only big iron V8 pushrod truck engines under the hood, these comments make sense. Modern engines - not so much. Today's common rail Diesel and direct injected gasoline engines are running much higher fuel pressure, all of which is produced with cam driven fuel pumps. Good luck running a regular mineral oil in these engines, the shorter oil change intervals will not make any discernible difference preventing early wear - they simply do not have the shear additives necessary to do the job.

 

This is probably a much better place to get qualified advise -

 

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

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9 hours ago, mistral53 said:

Assuming that the comments made are chiefly from old geezers that lugged only big iron V8 pushrod truck engines under the hood, these comments make sense. Modern engines - not so much. Today's common rail Diesel and direct injected gasoline engines are running much higher fuel pressure, all of which is produced with cam driven fuel pumps. Good luck running a regular mineral oil in these engines, the shorter oil change intervals will not make any discernible difference preventing early wear - they simply do not have the shear additives necessary to do the job.

 

This is probably a much better place to get qualified advise -

 

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

A rides handbook will state suitable oil grade/type/tech for it's given engine, and oil change time/KM.

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Toyota now recommend THEIR Full Syn oil for their new models. Should be changed no more than 10k km. The oil might be ok for a tad longer but their filters wont that's as important as the oil.  

Toyota sell their Full Syn at a little more than their semi Syn. So just use their Full Syn.

 

I believe that your car has around 6lt of oil in the engine??? But I can tell you a full change using Full Syn in my 2.8 that has 8lt of Toyota Full Syn oil, including filter, grease the prop costs, 2.300bht INC: That's at Toyota. Peanuts. N/B I also change mine at 5k why not as I said it cost next to nothing to keep the engine in great condition.  

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2 hours ago, fredob43 said:

Toyota now recommend THEIR Full Syn oil for their new models. Should be changed no more than 10k km. The oil might be ok for a tad longer but their filters wont that's as important as the oil.  

Toyota sell their Full Syn at a little more than their semi Syn. So just use their Full Syn.

 

I believe that your car has around 6lt of oil in the engine??? But I can tell you a full change using Full Syn in my 2.8 that has 8lt of Toyota Full Syn oil, including filter, grease the prop costs, 2.300bht INC: That's at Toyota. Peanuts. N/B I also change mine at 5k why not as I said it cost next to nothing to keep the engine in great condition.  

Well some of us out here have to watch our expenditure, so spending 50 quid on an oil change that is not needed seems a bit daft....🤔

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40000 kms is ridiculous, even the scammers at BMW would change it every 25000 after trying to make customers wait more (it is free during 5 years)

 

15000 for synthetic oil is acceptable, 5000 is ridiculous.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, transam said:

Well some of us out here have to watch our expenditure, so spending 50 quid on an oil change that is not needed seems a bit daft....🤔

Yes, while most of us can afford it. However, better to change before, than too late, right.

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2 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Yes, while most of us can afford it. However, better to change before, than too late, right.

I, and many here are not hi-so posters like yourself, but if a manufacturer, in their handbook, say change at 10,000km, then that is a figure that MORE than covers their engine wear worries.

Now, if you want to change your oil early because you are hi-so that's great, you are creating LOS employment, and spending your money here, well done....:clap2:

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1 minute ago, transam said:

I, and many here are not hi-so posters like yourself, but if a manufacturer, in their handbook, say change at 10,000km, then that is a figure that MORE than covers their engine wear worries.

Now, if you want to change your oil early because you are hi-so that's great, you are creating LOS employment, and spending your money here, well done....:clap2:

Yes, some of us can afford do that. I call it giving back to a country that gives me a great life and value for money.

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2 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Yes, some of us can afford do that. I call it giving back to a country that gives me a great life and value for money.

Commendable.....:clap2:.........................🤭

 

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