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50 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

How many monthly transfers are you thinking is required? Some imm offices are requiring 12. If someone can provide the  400k in bank for couple months only, then good/safe way to go.

Yes, i thought 12 months too. You're right of course, 400k for a couple of months is a lot easier. Using the embassy letters should give him enough time to help.

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My gf say "you wolly to much. Evelything is going to wolk out". Just have to trust her, she is the Local after all

I am a little less confident compared to the last one but still thinking another extension will be done.  I think immigration know their are still a lot of people stuck here with no options to ex

The TAT is struggling to get new tourists, and the few who have been here - corvid free - since months, should get out. As so often here, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

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1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

I have no issue with Thailand. Strange you do. 

30 day visa exempt is not available for most Asean countries. Also they can be extended. 

Do couple border bounces and extend etc etc.

Hand drawn map do one once and photocopy for future extension.

I don't know many countries where you can arrive enter visa exempt then marry your internet mate, stick 13,000 usd into a Thai bank for couple of months and live here on annual extensions. 

And all that's too hard for you. Sad.

I have no issue with Thailand, just most of their ridiculous visa laws.

 

I use an agent.  No way am I putting 800k baht into a bank in a 3rd Would Country, just so I can spend money there and support their economy. 

 

As for ease of marriage visa, try Vietnam next door.  $50 for a 5 year multiple entry marriage visa.    

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7 minutes ago, PatrickC said:

A "hot zone". Geez. Covid is not dangerous. I've had cancer numerous times. Stuff happens. Life goes on. This virus is nothing to be scared of.

Even if you believe that, would you really want to go to a hot zone, where everything is closed, you can't go anywhere and are just stuck at home?  It will be a lonely, bleak winter in much of the USA.

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52 minutes ago, uberfarang said:

Agreed. My situation is not Thailand's problem and to be fair it's a "first world" problem in comparison to what Thailand's tourist industry is facing. I'm not the one who needs rescue.

 

They are the one needing the tourists, not the other way around. Nobody is desperately in need to travel to Thailand. But Thailand is in desperate need for their dollars. So please tell me how does Thailand benefit from kicking me and other "stranded" spenders out? I have plenty of yens to spend on short term accommodations and restaurants and would happily keep doing that until the borders open again.

 

I'm ready to leave, bought my ticket weeks ago (for the 3 time), it's not my GDP that is getting wrecked. A pity that Thailand doesn't want to benefit from the $ spent by "long-term tourists" already inside the country, but instead spend time crafting schemes to attract new ones. It's also a pity that many fellow members of TVF cannot comprehend that either.

 

By asking what does Thailand gain by kicking people out, you're trying to apply logic in illogical times.

 

However to answer your question, I'd think there would be legitimate concerns that if Covid does outbreak in Thailand, that these stranded tourists might become medical liabilities if they get sick. This would far outweigh any dollars they bring in.

 

I also think that the govt would gain a "tough" image, which it probably wants. So there are gains.

 

The dollars which stranded tourists bring in, I've argued before here, are a tiny drop in the ocean.

 

Whether I agree or not with the govt's decision, the point is, many posters here seem to think Thailand needs to take care of them. It doesn't.

 

I'd actually be in favour of the Thai govt regularizing people, and at the same time making them pay Thai taxes. This seems logical. However never ending extensions of the amnesty is not logical.

 

On the whole don't disagree with your point, but I also don't think endless amnesty extensions solve anything. Ideally they should regularize. Instead they chose to kick out. Like it or not, that is their decision to make.

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4 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

Even if you believe that, would you really want to go to a hot zone, where everything is closed, you can't go anywhere and are just stuck at home?  It will be a lonely, bleak winter in much of the USA.

 

Fair point - but my original point is that Covid in itself is not an excuse.

 

The consequences of Covid, maybe. 

 

But even then, Thailand is not obliged to take care of people.

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3 minutes ago, PatrickC said:

 

By asking what does Thailand gain by kicking people out, you're trying to apply logic in illogical times.

 

However to answer your question, I'd think there would be legitimate concerns that if Covid does outbreak in Thailand, that these stranded tourists might become medical liabilities if they get sick. This would far outweigh any dollars they bring in.

 

I also think that the govt would gain a "tough" image, which it probably wants. So there are gains.

 

The dollars which stranded tourists bring in, I've argued before here, are a tiny drop in the ocean.

 

Whether I agree or not with the govt's decision, the point is, many posters here seem to think Thailand needs to take care of them. It doesn't.

 

I'd actually be in favour of the Thai govt regularizing people, and at the same time making them pay Thai taxes. This seems logical. However never ending extensions of the amnesty is not logical.

 

On the whole don't disagree with your point, but I also don't think endless amnesty extensions solve anything. Ideally they should regularize. Instead they chose to kick out. Like it or not, that is their decision to make.

Fair points. I'm not even asking for extended the amnesty either, but at least provide paid extension of tourist visa. I would even have been okay to pay for one year (but not five) of elite visa.

Some will argue that's basically what those "volunteer visa" are, sorry for being new to this game, I didn't know corruption was the way to do things here, my loss 😉

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1 hour ago, uberfarang said:

Agreed. My situation is not Thailand's problem and to be fair it's a "first world" problem in comparison to what Thailand's tourist industry is facing. I'm not the one who needs rescue.

 

They are the one needing the tourists, not the other way around. Nobody is desperately in need to travel to Thailand. But Thailand is in desperate need for their dollars. So please tell me how does Thailand benefit from kicking me and other "stranded" spenders out? I have plenty of yens to spend on short term accommodations and restaurants and would happily keep doing that until the borders open again.

 

I'm ready to leave, bought my ticket weeks ago (for the 3 time), it's not my GDP that is getting wrecked. A pity that Thailand doesn't want to benefit from the $ spent by "long-term tourists" already inside the country, but instead spend time crafting schemes to attract new ones. It's also a pity that many fellow members of TVF cannot comprehend that either.

I'm confused because on one had you state you don't meet the financials and on the other you say Thailand desperately needs your money. In reality Thailand wants tourists (when the threat of Covid19 is gone) who have money to spend and have fun. 

My wife's friend traveled back to Boston last month without a problem. 

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1 hour ago, adrianb said:

A year ago I was strictly using my ATM from Singapoe to get cash. I am unsure if I deposited enough of it then in my Thai banks. There was a 4 month period this year with zero deposits. The last 3 months over 200k directly into my bank. Money seems to come and go, but I spend a lot more than 40k a month here.

Where should I try? Chumphon I rent a place by the sea, but the immigration here are unhelpful. Should Igo and try MTT in Bangkok or somewhere else?

 

I am interested in an answer to your questions too.  Chumphon is my local office.

 

I was thinking of trying MTT as the embassy letter appears to be accepted there but I am unsure whether MTT require evidence of a Bangkok address.

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1 hour ago, 2530Ubon said:

You can use the embassy letter to springboard to a long term visa based on marriage. This should give you enough time to leave the cash in the bank, or you can show 40k monthly deposits from abroad into a thai bank account (your account).

If you have an existing Non O you'll probably need to show 12 months of transfers.

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37 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I couldn't agree more. However, I think we must accept that the new visa arrangements, with quarantine and insurance, are crafted to allow"new visitors, or more properly, new money. A consortium have exerted their influence to set up a scheme whereby a limited number of high spending tourists will be allowed to enter the country for longish periods.

The keyword is indeed "high spending tourists", and although it is not how the official announcement presents it (same for the misleading clickbait news articles popping everywhere about that) but if you read between the lines, they are really just targeting really big spenders, If the maths are correct they expect each of them to spend between 200,000 and 1,000,000 bahts per month... Considering how cheap are the hotels now, I wonder where one should go to spend that much.

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5 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

I'm confused because on one had you state you don't meet the financials and on the other you say Thailand desperately needs your money. In reality Thailand wants tourists (when the threat of Covid19 is gone) who have money to spend and have fun. 

My wife's friend traveled back to Boston last month without a problem. 

Where did I say I didn't meet financial requirements? I'm certainly spending more than what the retirement visa is asking, I'm just not old enough to qualify.

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1 minute ago, uberfarang said:

Where did I say I didn't meet financial requirements? I'm certainly spending more than what the retirement visa is asking, I'm just not old enough to qualify.

Go for an Elite Visa. It sounds right for you.

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25 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

Yes, i thought 12 months too. You're right of course, 400k for a couple of months is a lot easier. Using the embassy letters should give him enough time to help.

I just went online my bank only gives a 6 month statement unless you go to the bank and request one. I know they will then have to contact the head office and wait for it to be sent. Many Thai banks are like this. 

So expecting to get a statement in time will also be a problem for many.

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1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Of course your correct, however next cabinet meeting is 22. Leaving 3 days to deadline given 26 is a Saturday.

If I was a bookmaker that make extension 10-1 long shot.

Your generous I'd give 1000 to 1.

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30 minutes ago, PatrickC said:

 

A "hot zone". Geez. Covid is not dangerous. I've had cancer numerous times. Stuff happens. Life goes on. This virus is nothing to be scared of.

You are right, and why Asians are such a pussys? European countries back to normal already several months and all Asian countries still playing apocalypse zombie with this flue virus, I can’t imagine what would they do if the real virus come into play...

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