Megasin1 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 The solo keyboard (defunct bar stool) warriors just don't get it. Many real "tourists" do not travel alone. They travel with their family as they are all taking a holiday. These are what most countries except Thailand would class as "quality tourists". They take tours, spend money and dont generally get so drunk that they end up in hospital. They will NOT be coming. Its too late in the season for snowbirds as they plan months ahead. They will NOT be coming. The Thai "quality" which are wealthy will not be confined, its against their nature, so NOT coming. That just leaves the same old regulars who will whine, complain but in the end will come, which let's face it doesnt matter what restrictions they put on or how much they charge, some people can't take a hint ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Europeanguy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Shey420 said: "can they hit there money goals while in this scheme". Sorry to be perhaps pedantic but shouldn't it be "their"? I am not a native English speaker so I could be wrong but I have lived in the UK for 35 years and I have never seen that use while I was there. But I see it nearly every single day on Thaivisa. If I am wrong, I am sorry and offer my apologies. If I am right, I see the problem as a writer making a point and get the reader to wander off because somehow disturbed by something else. The reader thought process interrupted is another way to describe what happens. Best regards all. Edited September 16, 2020 by Europeanguy Forgot something 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ajarnmarc Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 hours ago, SVC Porter said: They don't get it....no one is coming lol. This is something TAT will have to see, before they will believe or understand just how bad it really is outside of Thailand? It would appear, they think that economically; Thailand is the only country that has been hit...? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rumak Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 Yesterdays photo of a "shocked man" was taken down . Funny photo , happened to be a black man. Let's see how the same reaction to this latest news gets received : 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, ajarnmarc said: This is something TAT will have to see, before they will believe or understand Oh, how many times i have thought that , in various situations. It is then i come to remember the quote Crossy likes to use : " I can explain it to you, but i can not understand it for you " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, johnmcc6 said: So what about pensioners who are to old to get insurance but otherwise very healthy Off to another country, back to the small apt., old folkks home or street/gutter in their country. I would say if you can afford Thailand Elite but I dont think it's safe from the last nail in the coffin for retirement in Thailand, mandatory insurance unable to get for aged. 46 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: As a "tourist" that has lived here for 15 years with my wife and son ,in our own home ,if next year i go back to the UK for a holiday ,wonder if i will be expected to get insurance on coming back? Yes. I would develop a plan B for your family. I am. In fact my plan B is now looking more like plan A. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, baansgr said: No doubt that would be for the maximum period...a shorter stay from a low risk country is only £40 Exact;y , its for short term holidays not for long stayers , Also most insurance companies would get you repatriated when it comes to serious illness and big hospital bills , check out the ins; policy documents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karunasup Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 a cynical view: Thai policy is aimed at ensuring new revenue source to 4 star and 5 star hotels and their hospitals. All of them are well connected. Their policies, like in many countries, are dictated by the 1%. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, miamiman123 said: Hoping praying wishing and dreaming I know that song... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grusa Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Xonax said: To me that almost sounds like a normal trip to immigration for visa extension, except for the baby part. 1200 tourists a month distributed between 600 different hotels is like a drop in the ocean and will not save the whole tourist industry. There is a plot of land not far from me, with 25 Volvo buses parked up. they have been there since March. Another site not far away has 20-ish similar. These are not cheap Chinese buses. Conservatively, they hold 40 pax each. so, 25 buses at 40 seats = 1000 paying passengers. And that's just one small part of Pattaya darkside. Multiply by the whole country. I doubt that 1200 "tourists", with or without insurance, quarantine, etc., etc., is going to keep those bus companies and their employees going. Same goes for all the rest of tourism infrastructure. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris657 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 7 hours ago, AgentSmith said: I agree. My worldwide insurance policy covers me up to 2 million euros, 100% in and out patient, and covid-19 coverage is included. I sure do hope they won't force expensive redundant insurance upon us. I can prove I have insurance and that should really be enough. Nope - I would imagine that the Thai government approved insurance companies are the same ones as on the approved list for the O-A retirement visa. These companies are the only ones that they will accept...sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris657 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Chelseafan said: Strangely enough, I've made that same point before on a seperate post. But yes, defintely a scam Hmm - the word 'cartel' springs to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris657 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Shey420 said: They do get it. This is why their plan is to only have one to three flights per week. 1200 per month. Quilty tourist is what they been pushing since talks of reopening started. They can definitely get 1200 people per month with this new scheme. They can definitely get those numbers every month for the foreseeable future. While added more flights and more asq hotels and visitors. This is their ultimate plan. The question is can they hit there money goals while in this scheme. While every other business around them go under. I doubt that but it seems they are willing to have that collateral damage. Going forward it seems that all they want is high end tourists who wish to stay in the country for a few months each year....the 2 week sex millionaires of Pattaya, etc are finished which is what they have wanted for many years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremser Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Shey420 said: They do get it. This is why their plan is to only have one to three flights per week. 1200 per month. Quilty tourist is what they been pushing since talks of reopening started. They can definitely get 1200 people per month with this new scheme. They can definitely get those numbers every month for the foreseeable future. While added more flights and more asq hotels and visitors. This is their ultimate plan. The question is can they hit there money goals while in this scheme. While every other business around them go under. I doubt that but it seems they are willing to have that collateral damage. In the article is written no leisure tourists are allowed. ???? Under which category this 1200 special visitors would fall into? And btw more importantly 1200 lost souls a month can't do anything close to hit any goals. Even you don't feel this small number economical wise. So I don't get it how you come to the conclusion this would sound like any plan? Even for Thailand it would be poor planning. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Chelseafan said: I would rather think it wise to look at what the Thai insurance DOES NOT cover, for example, only £80,000 (maximum) cover in case of death Most 'sane' travel insurance companies (UK) will cover Covid, including emergency treatment and althought there is a slight premium, its not much. Unless something has drastically changed there were only 10 uk insurance companies offering Covid medical cover and only 5 full cover (cancellation etc). You would also have to be ill rather than symptomatic as UK Rules pointed out. But all in all, the overall conditions are going to make it singularly unattractive for any other than the desperate to wanna come to Thailand and certainly not going to help address their tourist industry woes. This is just tinkering for PR purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 It will cost less to spend the winter in Reunion (with free European standard healthcare for EU citizens) or on Mauritius (when they open up) than in Thailand. Even expensive Maldives will cost less for a 2-4 week holiday at a nice resort island. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Some need to recheck on any annual policies renewing Mine has chopped all up front Covid Coverage and the underwriters and re insurers involved cover over 50% of UK policies issued My coverage has completely gone and no amount of premium will reinstate it. Happy to scan in Email 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Chelseafan said: Same, I usually pay around £25 per trip. Just checked and it's around £30 including Covid insurance. Check my post above Chelsea..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 With other words, they keep the doors closed. Easy to understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post goatfarmer Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 If they were serious about encouraging tourists they'd adopt the Greek model: no insurance and the state covers the cost of testing, isolating you and your travel partners/family and treating you in hospital, if you get sick. In other words, the Greek state is taking the risk. Think about it. What is the cost to the state of hospitalizing/isolating a few people, or a few hundred, even a few thousand people, compared with the benefit of luring back part of the annual $65 Billion in tourist revenue. Sooner or later they'll do the arithmetic. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 hours ago, scorecard said: Wow, please share the name of the ins. company, thanks. Indeed see my posts just above this one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkieb Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, goatfarmer said: If they were serious about encouraging tourists they'd adopt the Greek model: no insurance and the state covers the cost of testing, isolating you and your travel partners/family and treating you in hospital, if you get sick. In other words, the Greek state is taking the risk. Think about it. What is the cost to the state of hospitalizing/isolating a few people, or a few hundred, even a few thousand people, compared with the benefit of luring back part of the annual $65 Billion in tourist revenue. Sooner or later they'll do the arithmetic. As usual the ones in charge can't see past the ends of their own noses (thainess). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rumak Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 Me thinks this is the type of tourist they expect . "starting from ONLY 4,200 baht ... don't forget the ++" Free pick up from your quarantine cell ? DO YOU fit the bill ? or can you foot the bill ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, checkered flag said: Maybe, if on a 3+3+3 visa. 15 years on a tourist visa is a long time. i was not being serious i am on marriage visa ,but according to Thailand ,we are just visitors,arnt we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rumak Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 I have to admit. Though i haven't even left Thailand in 12 years, and i have a retirement extension using the money in bank method .............. I am starting to get a bit uneasy. I do not purchase health insurance from the insurance conglomerate. I pay for my health care with my own funds. Will people like me be the next target ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, rumak said: I have to admit. Though i haven't even left Thailand in 12 years, and i have a retirement extension using the money in bank method .............. I am starting to get a bit uneasy. I do not purchase health insurance from the insurance conglomerate. I pay for my health care with my own funds. Will people like me be the next target ? I sincerely hope not as I am in a similar position. I would hate to have to leave here on the basis of just being uninsurable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly07 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 A consortium of Insurance companies-I wonder what the collective noun is for this? Suggestions omitting profanities might include 'swarm of (locusts)' 'gang of (pirates)' 'nest of (thieves)' and many more. Is Wuhan Flu a pre-existing condition? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnydrops Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, rumak said: I have to admit. Though i haven't even left Thailand in 12 years, and i have a retirement extension using the money in bank method .............. I am starting to get a bit uneasy. I do not purchase health insurance from the insurance conglomerate. I pay for my health care with my own funds. Will people like me be the next target ? I also worry about that. I keep feeling like I am dodging a bullet with my name on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kotsak Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, steven100 said: 6 hours ago, ezzra said: And the madness continues.... and the wheels on the bus go round and round ... I think the wheels came off a long time ago.. ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 So everyone has to join the club I was forced to join(I have a Non Imm OA). So I guess if one has an Elite, Non Imm O Retirement or Marriage then buying health insurance is required unless you never leave the country? But it is not great news for me as well. My current policy with Pacific Cross does not meet the Covid 19 Minimums so I will now have to pay double my current premiums. Maybe I will just leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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