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24 minutes ago, robertson468 said:

Samui already has non-Bangkok Airways Flights coming in.  All that Bangkok Airways does is charge them a fee for landing at their Airport.  Not a big problem.

And it’s not a cheap fee which is why Thai airways stopped their flights there .

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6 hours ago, webfact said:

"Samui Bubble" latest plan to rescue foreign tourism on devastated holiday island

Not the bubble again.. pleaseeeeee !

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6 hours ago, webfact said:

Samui Bubble" latest plan to rescue foreign tourism on devastated holiday island

Normal run of the mill Tourist ain't going to go in 14 day self pay Quarantine and getting Ripped of for an Stupid Extra Covid Insurance what Should be Covered in a Proper Travel Insurance and Jump through all the Hoops that come with the Drama.

The only People that Will come to Los are the Well connected Hi So Rich and Well of Business People/Traveling for the Job

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Two things I know about bubbles...

 

1 - they don't last very long

2 - they go pop

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Direct international flights from Europe ect don't think so. Some how.  But i bet Bangkok airways rubbing their greedy little hands together 

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The Inane nonsense continues. The administration ministers are simply not smart enough, nor humble enough to realize that Thailand and it's people need foreigners infinitely more than foreigners need them. Thailand will soon be a tourism footnote, at this rate. And the trillions of baht spent on hotels and other tourist related facilities will become a historically huge investment failure. 

 

Note to the Thai army. Your people are counting on you, and you are letting them down. Do something. Do anything. Do not continue doing nothing. Your people are starving for tourism income. 

 

Lethargy and extreme incompetence can be very ugly qualities.

 

These images were taken in Chaweng on Samui, this week. Utter devastation. And the baht billionaires continue to diddle daddle and propose this and that. Such ugly indifference. Such a sad failure. 

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10 hours ago, webfact said:

...he thinks that foreign tourism could resume mid-November under the plan.

Mid-November is monsoon high season and tourist extremely low season. In older times the resorts on Samui closed from November 1st till just before Christmas, not because the weather changed by Christmas, but because visitors came to celebrate Christmas and New Year.

 

There might be great weather in November-December, and there might be two weeks – and some years even more the two weeks – of very stormy weather from the north-eastern monsoon. The problem is that we don't know in advance which weeks will be good, and which weeks will be awful.

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31 minutes ago, dirtybirty said:

Direct international flights from Europe ect don't think so. Some how.  But i bet Bangkok airways rubbing their greedy little hands together 

The runway of Samui Airport (USM) is 2100 meters long.

 

A long range airplane, like B777 would need from 2,440 meter to 3,380 meter take off run at sea-level with MTOW (Max Take Off Weight). A B787 from 2,600 meter and an Airbus 330 needs 2,770 meter.

 

I can imagine that the length of the runway – and perhaps also weight – would limit a number of long-range destinations for direct charter flights.

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8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Your people are starving for tourism income. 

There are not enough foreigners going to go to Thailand to make any difference. They could open the borders without restrictions and tourists are just not going to arrive to welcome anyway. It's not just quarantine in LOS, it's also quarantine on return home.

 

If they really want foreigners, issue a one year visa, renewable for ever, without the idiocy that is in force at present, at a reasonable cost like Cambodia and other SEA countries do. I have zero confidence they would do that, no matter how bad things are.

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

There are not enough foreigners going to go to Thailand to make any difference. They could open the borders without restrictions and tourists are just not going to arrive to welcome anyway. It's not just quarantine in LOS, it's also quarantine on return home.

 

If they really want foreigners, issue a one year visa, renewable for ever, without the idiocy that is in force at present, at a reasonable cost like Cambodia and other SEA countries do. I have zero confidence they would do that, no matter how bad things are.

They should not only issue free one year visas, they should pay for half of quarantine costs. If they were serious. 

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19 hours ago, ronaldo0 said:

And it’s not a cheap fee which is why Thai airways stopped their flights there .

Sea planes - there should be sea plane flights to Koh Samui from Bangkok/Samut Prakan. Not entirely relevant to this thread, but a fun way to bypass the airport issue. Also: "Samui, the Maldives of the Bay of Siam"🙂

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1 hour ago, androokery said:

Sea planes - there should be sea plane flights to Koh Samui from Bangkok/Samut Prakan. Not entirely relevant to this thread, but a fun way to bypass the airport issue. Also: "Samui, the Maldives of the Bay of Siam"🙂

I have also been seriously considering the possibility.

 

I don't think people would fly slow small Twin Otter planes from Bangkok today – that's how the air traffic to Samui originally started – but from Nakhon Si Thammarat or Surat Thani, to Phangan and even Tao, could be a possibility. The shorter range could also increase the passenger payload to it's maximum; i.e. up to 19 passengers. The runway need is only 400 meters, which might be of more interest than sea plane to for example Phangan.

 

However, it's quite costly per seat to fly with these planes compared to modern jets. Perhaps people that could afford to use them, would prefer a Bangkok Airways flight to Samui, and instead more comfortably commute the 10-11 kilometers sea-ride by boat...🤔

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1 hour ago, khunPer said:
3 hours ago, androokery said:

Sea planes - there should be sea plane flights to Koh Samui from Bangkok/Samut Prakan. Not entirely relevant to this thread, but a fun way to bypass the airport issue. Also: "Samui, the Maldives of the Bay of Siam"🙂

I have also been seriously considering the possibility.

Ahh the good old days of visa trips to the Andaman Club in Burma with Alan Sadd and his sea plane.

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On 9/17/2020 at 7:49 AM, spidermike007 said:

They should not only issue free one year visas, they should pay for half of quarantine costs. If they were serious. 

not going to happen - even if quarantine is 100% free "real" tourists are not going to arrive in any numbers if they face time in quarantine hotels.

 

i base this on what has recently happened in europe - even faced with quarantine at their own homes on return it was a no-no, the tap immediately ran dry. maybe the chinese are more tolerant, i don't know, but westerners? forget about it.

 

and take quarantine away? well we can now see how that pans out: france, spain, uk, italy, germany

 

second wave.

 

there will be no saviour for the foreseeable future - best case would be a full return of expats and retirees, otherwise known as low season.

 

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All people from all nations should be welcome starting tomorrow. If you are willing to endure quarantine, no restrictions whatsoever. No begging of a consulate for permission to visit. That is nonsensical stupidity. And no limitations on the number of people who can visit.

 

More than likely, no matter how many they let arrive, this will fall flat on it's face. Few will be willing to endure quarantine, and the myriad of restrictions and requirements. The tourism industry is likely to collapse long term. It means millions will remain out of work long term. 

 

This hapless administration needs to develop some courage and initiative. They can't hide from the world forever. Extreme timidity from supposedly tough men is an amusing thing to witness. However, the pain they are inflicting on millions is not. The Thai army. Dumb and dumber. 

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