Biden warns UK on Brexit: No trade deal unless you respect Northern Irish peace deal

[Thingamabob]

22 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Brexit Britain’s debut onto the world stage preceded by a self harming disregard for international law and a reminder that the ‘special relationship’ is a figment of British imagination. 

Relax. Within a year or two Brexit will work well for the UK.

[steve187]

2 hours ago, dunroaming said:

Glad you said elected yet.   At least you can recognise that he will be elected and that he will then dictate what the USA will accept or reject.  That is just weeks away.  But again that is an aside as congress decides on these things and they are overwhelmingly democrats.

he hasn't been elected yet, is a fact, not a hope or a premonition, or a care if he is or isn't, the USA has 330 million people and this is the best they can do to run the country.

Edited September 18, 2020 by steve187

[Knocker33]

I'm surprised he could string that many words together without drifting off in to cloud cuckoo land. 

[Scott]

Trolling meme removed. 

 

[Morch]

3 hours ago, Knocker33 said:

I'm surprised he could string that many words together without drifting off in to cloud cuckoo land. 

 

I'm surprised a Trump supporter would wanna go there.

[sandyf]

22 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

Well, he was used to acting like that with Obama. He tried to blatantly interfere in the Brexit referendum and influence the vote.

The Belfast Agreement and Brexit have been like shxx on a blanket and the US involvement in the BA gives them some right to express an opinion.

[sandyf]

On 9/17/2020 at 6:22 PM, steve187 said:

he hasn't been elected yet, but butting his nose into another countries business

In the words of Joni Mitchell.

 

But Pompeo appeared to brush off those concerns on Wednesday, although he said “we’ve made clear our view of the importance of the Good Friday Agreement.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pompeo-trump-administration-uk-brexit-pelosi-warnings

[evadgib]

Biden will be history by 4th November & despite all their bluster I cannot see ???????? seriously trying to pries NI away from ????????.

[RayC]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

Biden will be history by 4th November

Remains to be seen

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

& despite all their bluster I cannot see ???????? seriously trying to pries NI away from ????????.

It is not about the EU trying to prise NI away from the UK, it is about the EU protecting the integrity of the single market and customs union, and they are very serious about that.

[evadgib]

41 minutes ago, RayC said:

Remains to be seen

It is not about the EU trying to prise NI away from the UK, it is about the EU protecting the integrity of the single market and customs union, and they are very serious about that.

If ???????? want to patrol that border they can do so from the ???????? side.

[sandyf]

34 minutes ago, evadgib said:

If ???????? want to patrol that border they can do so from the ???????? side.

Bojo's game plan, bring an end to the Belfast Agreement and blame the EU.

[RayC]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

If ???????? want to patrol that border they can do so from the ???????? side.

The need to avoid 'patrols' is what is causing the problem. I don't think anyone wants to go back to the situation that existed on the NI/ RoI border areas in the '80s, do you?

[evadgib]

Bacloading unwanted visitors that turned up unannounced and uninvited via the EU could well end up being shoved back to the EU via Eire if France continue sending them.

[cmarshall]

The British have to accept that from now on the most powerful English-speaking country in Europe is Ireland as a member in good standing of the EU.  That is especially true with respect to political influence with the US, where both Dems and Rs support the Good Friday Agreement.

 

The Brexiteers had championed a free trade agreement with the US as the very reason for Brexit.  Now that they will not get any such agreement any time soon, they are singing a different tune.

 

It is breath-taking to watch the Tories wreck their own country.  Som nam na.

[melvinmelvin]

49 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

The British have to accept that from now on the most powerful English-speaking country in Europe is Ireland as a member in good standing of the EU.  That is especially true with respect to political influence with the US, where both Dems and Rs support the Good Friday Agreement.

 

The Brexiteers had championed a free trade agreement with the US as the very reason for Brexit.  Now that they will not get any such agreement any time soon, they are singing a different tune.

 

It is breath-taking to watch the Tories wreck their own country.  Som nam na.

 

What kind of units on which scale do you apply when placing UK below Ireland?

[Morch]

Just now, melvinmelvin said:

 

What kind of units on which scale do you apply when placing UK below Ireland?

 

Pints?

[sungod]

Biden is just another of those idiotic Americans whose cousin's friend's brother had a Irish Wolfhound as a pet, therefore claims Irish ancestry.

 

Many of these idiots used to contribute to NORAID, which through other channels helped fund the Provisional IRA, a terrorist organisation. Then after 9/11 the US found it wasn't cool to fund terrorism anymore.

 

I am not a fan of Trump, but I dislike hypocrites even more.

Edited September 19, 2020 by sungod

[sungod]

2 hours ago, RayC said:

The need to avoid 'patrols' is what is causing the problem. I don't think anyone wants to go back to the situation that existed on the NI/ RoI border areas in the '80s, do you?

No, and nor do the UK government, so this is just political hot air.

[cmarshall]

11 hours ago, sungod said:

Biden is just another of those idiotic Americans whose cousin's friend's brother had a Irish Wolfhound as a pet, therefore claims Irish ancestry.

 

Many of these idiots used to contribute to NORAID, which through other channels helped fund the Provisional IRA, a terrorist organisation. Then after 9/11 the US found it wasn't cool to fund terrorism anymore.

 

I am not a fan of Trump, but I dislike hypocrites even more.

Michael Collins's "terrorism" is what gained Ireland its independence.  And what is terrorism, but the selective use of force to gain your political end from the resulting fear?  Is the American way of pounding a country into submission with B-52 bombers somehow more civilized?  The US killed between 150,000 and one million Iraqis in the Second Iraq War alone.  Not since Cambodia in the 70's has a government killed as many as one million innocent people, not Russia, not China.

 

So, terrorism is just a tactic and one that's effectively more humane that all-out asymmetric war, for example. 

[sungod]

23 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

Michael Collins's "terrorism" is what gained Ireland its independence.  And what is terrorism, but the selective use of force to gain your political end from the resulting fear?  Is the American way of pounding a country into submission with B-52 bombers somehow more civilized?  The US killed between 150,000 and one million Iraqis in the Second Iraq War alone.  Not since Cambodia in the 70's has a government killed as many as one million innocent people, not Russia, not China.

 

So, terrorism is just a tactic and one that's effectively more humane that all-out asymmetric war, for example. 

So killing innocent people is fine by you, as long as its a tactic in your political game?

 

Yes or no will suffice.

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.   Please keep it civil.  

 

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, sungod said:

So killing innocent people is fine by you, as long as its a tactic in your political game?

 

Yes or no will suffice.

If the answer is no, would you agree to open inquiries into allegations of summary execution perpetrated by British forces and the British state?

[simple1]

14 hours ago, sungod said:

Biden is just another of those idiotic Americans whose cousin's friend's brother had a Irish Wolfhound as a pet, therefore claims Irish ancestry.

 

Many of these idiots used to contribute to NORAID, which through other channels helped fund the Provisional IRA, a terrorist organisation. Then after 9/11 the US found it wasn't cool to fund terrorism anymore.

 

I am not a fan of Trump, but I dislike hypocrites even more.

Some members of both the Dems and Republicans supported NORAID. Biden aligns to Irish Catholicism.

 

Though he has been in public life for almost 50 years Biden’s religious and ethnic ties are not widely known. He was the first Irish Catholic vice president and would be the second Catholic president after John F. Kennedy.

 

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/joe-biden-catholic

[sungod]

As long as it is not a witch hunt, which seems to be the current course on inquiries into British soldiers.

How about putting all those convicted terrorists back into jail who benefited under early release, that would seem fair too right?

 

 

 

[cmarshall]

15 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Some members of both the Dems and Republicans supported NORAID. Biden aligns to Irish Catholicism.

 

Though he has been in public life for almost 50 years Biden’s religious and ethnic ties are not widely known. He was the first Irish Catholic vice president and would be the second Catholic president after John F. Kennedy.

 

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/joe-biden-catholic

But surprisingly, the US Supreme Court has been dominated by Catholics for years.  If Amy Coney Barrett indeed succeeds Ginsburg, the Catholics will be six out of nine.

[bannork]

Trump's special envoy to NI has also warned the British Gvt about the dangers of a hard border emerging.

[3NUMBAS]

bidens too old to be pres .so we have the usual rotten selection of potential presidents .what a teriible selection to choose from again.. all of em rotters

[Morch]

24 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

bidens too old to be pres .so we have the usual rotten selection of potential presidents .what a teriible selection to choose from again.. all of em rotters

 

There's a 3 year gap between the two candidates. Try harder.

[PhonThong]

On 9/17/2020 at 6:22 AM, steve187 said:

he hasn't been elected yet, but butting his nose into another countries business

He's looking for another "payoff".

 

[Scott]

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