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3 hours ago, phuketcouple said:

I would even accept an 'electronic ankle monitor' -- still better than 14 days in a room in a hotel jail.

Hotel jail? If that is your attitude it indicates you would rebel and break the home quarantine.

 

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This is too easy. How much money is there for home quarantine, and how much money is there in mandated quarantine? Duh.

Because some people don't understand what quarantine means, just one of many examples: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/11/us/miami-university-student-party-covid-trnd/index.html What are they sup

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I do understand what you are saying, but:


How can Thailand worry so much about a manageable risk with a few non-covid-19 rule compliant foreigners when over 20,000 people die in accidents on the country's roads every year?

 

Schizophrenic or just money-hungry -- or both?
 

 

 

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Re the OP's question, Thailand HAD home quarantine for Thais returning from abroad in the early going. And what started happening almost immediately, those same returning home quarantined Thais were spotted out on the town hanging out in bars and nightclubs etc., oblivious to the risk. A TH public furor erupted, and that's what happened to the idea of home quarantine here.

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23 minutes ago, Nout said:

Hotel jail? If that is your attitude it indicates you would rebel and break the home quarantine.

 

Interesting

 

If I call a 14-day quasi imprisonment in a hotel room a 14-day prison, I am automatically a "rebel and break the home quarantine".


 

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10 hours ago, phuketcouple said:

In e.g. Germany it is rather the rule that a Covid quarantine can be spent at home. Violations will be severely sanctioned.

Germans are quite responsible in their civic duty...for example have you ever seen a German who does not recycle everything exactly as the government says it should be done ? Many societies, Thailand included have a lesser sense of civic duty.

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17 hours ago, howerde said:

It was possible in the early days for Thais, but as usual there were the people who simply did not bother, so now everyone does, except for diplomats i think

Not only in Thailand, 2 rich somewhat arrogant Australian families ignored/attempted to twist the rules, all members eventually copped large fines. 

 

Further, in Australia, several cases of security guards at quarantine hotels taking quarantine 'guests' to restaurants, discos, etc., eventually caught. Plus a couple of cases of male security guards at these hotels having sex with female quarantine guests in their rooms.

 

All of the above generated stricter application / monitoring of compulsory 14 days quarantine.   

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18 hours ago, howerde said:

It was possible in the early days for Thais, but as usual there were the people who simply did not bother, so now everyone does, except for diplomats i think

Diplomats have to quarantine also, the difference is that their quarantine can be arranged by their government reps here, subject to it meeting Thailand's requirements.

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17 hours ago, up-country_sinclair said:

 

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You think that the money paid for foreigners' quarantine to authorised hotels goes to the Government?  It goes to the hotels and they get a payment from the government.  State quarantine is not charged for citizens.

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Some posters seem to think that the cost of foreigners' quarantine facilities (authorised hotels) goes to the government and must, therefore, think that the hotels provide free accommodation and 3 meals a day for two weeks out of the goodness of their hearts.

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The simple answer is there is money to be made by making you quarantine in a hotel if you were allowed to self isolate like a lot of countries allow at home there is very little cost to you. It would be interesting to find out if there are government ministers who have interests in the government stipulated hotels. 

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Many people in England simply ignore the home quarantine rules when they return from a country on the red list. If it's like that in a (supposedly, lol) well-educated, advanced economy, would you really expect people in Thailand to behave better? I'm quite happy that the Thai authorities take matters very seriously and won't allow unsupervised home quarantine, the UK and EU, never mind the US coronapocalypse, could learn a few lessons from how they do things here.

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Government mindset is that farangs are dirty and they don't really want us to come only our money. The Government Quarantine hotels are very expensive for many people so tourists get fleeced for the first two weeks of their stay. Sadly an army guy broke his quarantine rules so the Thai Government brought in compulsory quarantine. 

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16 hours ago, phuketcouple said:

Covid-19 is not just plague or cholera!

 

Why such extreme, even irrational fear?

According to the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) in Berlin, an estimated 25,100 people will have died of the 'normal' flu in 2017/2018 in Germany alone.
 

Ah, now that's the real question that needs to be answered.

Who benefits from the hysterical paranoia that's been whipped up by governements and the media, not just in Thailand but around the world?

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1 hour ago, Hi Tea said:

"Why no home quarantine in TH?"

 

Covid-19 deaths in Germany, 9,452.

Covid-19 deaths in Thailand, 58.

What do you mean by "Covid-19 deaths"? Died with Covid or died of Covid? 

 

And it's actually 59 in Thailand. Not 58. 

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perfectly rational and if you want to live under german rules.. stay home. or wait until they put you in charge of making the rules... 

 

i never understand why people want another country to adapt the laws for them. 

 

do they change the laws for your convenience in germany? 

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They told me that in a hotel THEY LOCK THE DOORS AND WINDOWS  but if you stay at home they can't control you. I have to move out of Thailand even if I have visa . They are going to loose everybody all foreigners like this  BECAUSE COVID-19 is going to go on at least  5 years more.. I  AM  SURE ,,  GOODBYE  THAILAND  WELCOME  MEDITERRANEAN ............

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20 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Please somebody, push this question further to the government. It´s just too hard to answer for us simple TV members.

Soldiers are as simple as anyone except when they have the authority to extort money from the ordinary people, hence very overcharged hotel fees for ASQ, coved insurance and testing, what a moneymaker, so no home quarantines.

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1 hour ago, JusticeGB said:

Government mindset is that farangs are dirty and they don't really want us to come only our money. The Government Quarantine hotels are very expensive for many people so tourists get fleeced for the first two weeks of their stay. Sadly an army guy broke his quarantine rules so the Thai Government brought in compulsory quarantine. 

People were allowed to quarantine at home back in April but they didn't quarantine

Phuket authorities on the hunt for quarantine dodgers

Provincial chief of police, Rungrote Thakurapunyasiri, says the group that had been asked to self-quarantine lied about their whereabouts and continued to leave their homes. The chief has slammed the lack of honesty, accusing the group of potentially spreading the virus further through their actions.

“Even though they were advised to self-isolate at home for 14 days, their lack of honesty could worsen the situation. They could have easily spread the virus to unsuspecting people. The total lack of honesty also needs to be addressed as quickly as possible. 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/cv19-asia/cv19-thailand/phuket-authorities-on-the-hunt-for-quarantine-dodgers

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19 hours ago, baansgr said:

Because very few people would self quarantine. 

There are ways to make sure they do, one being clamp a very brightly coloured bracelet on their wrist that cannot be removed without damage, to be checked when the quarantine finishes, if there is any damage to it, heavy fines, jailtime then deportation. 

See how many people would break the quarantine then.

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Why would anyone want more COVID carriers coming into the country? You see every day, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 of the quarantines develop Covid. If they were "on their honour" not to go out of their own house, you would find most of them at Tesco or Siam Paragon. Better to lock them up.

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