Coronavirus: Thailand added to England's 'quarantine-free' list

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Coronavirus: Singapore and Thailand added to England's 'quarantine-free' list

 

Credit: PA Media

 

People arriving from Singapore and Thailand in England and Scotland will not need to quarantine from Saturday morning, the government has said.

 

They have been added to the list of "travel corridor" countries. But travellers coming from Slovenia and Guadeloupe will have to self-isolate for two weeks.

 

Both have also been added to Wales' quarantine list, while arrivals there from Gibraltar and Thailand will not need to self-isolate.

 

Full story: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54197620

 

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[ukrules]

You can't take it away unless you first give it.....

[Mama Noodle]

This would only apply if you got a direct flight, or a layover in a travel corridor country (unlikely) 

 

Regardless, Perfectly reasonable. 
 

Basically the U.K. (and the USA) are open, all you may or may not need to do is self isolate and report where you are. Home, Hotel, etc. 

[brommers]

Oh gosh, how wonderful!

No, wait. Does England not have over 3000 new infections per day, does England not have a testing system that is about to collapse, does England not have resurgent city by city lockdowns, does England not have the threat of curfews being imposed???

Why would anyone in their right mind want to go to this shambolic mess of a country!

[polpott]

12 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

This would only apply if you got a direct flight, or a layover in a travel corridor country (unlikely) 

 

Regardless, Perfectly reasonable. 
 

Basically the U.K. (and the USA) are open, all you may or may not need to do is self isolate and report where you are. Home, Hotel, etc. 

My flights to the UK go via Dubai. Not a problem for xfer passengers.

 

No need to self isolate, that's what's being removed.

[Mama Noodle]

4 minutes ago, polpott said:

My flights to the UK go via Dubai. Not a problem for xfer passengers.

 

No need to self isolate, that's what's being removed.

I just read on the U.K. gov website that if you transfer through a non corridor country then you still need to isolate. 

[polpott]

Just now, Mama Noodle said:

I just read on the U.K. gov website that if you transfer through a non corridor country then you still need to isolate. 

Not true.

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, polpott said:

Not true.

 

Says it right here:

“You will need to self-isolate if you visited or made a transit stop in a country or territory that is not on the travel corridor list in the 14 days before you arrive in England.

This applies to all travel to England, by train, ferry, coach, air or any other route.”

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-corridors

[polpott]

6 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Says it right here:

“You will need to self-isolate if you visited or made a transit stop in a country or territory that is not on the travel corridor list in the 14 days before you arrive in England.

This applies to all travel to England, by train, ferry, coach, air or any other route.”

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-corridors

How would immigration in the UK know that I'd been to Dubai? On arrival I present my passport to a reader and walk through the gate. No questions asked and my passport doesn't show my entry into Dubai. Technically, transfer passengers don't enter the country.

 

 

Edited September 17, 2020 by polpott

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, polpott said:

Not since midnight last night. How would immigration in the UK know that I'd been to Dubai. On arrival I present my passport to a reader and walk through the gate. No questions asked and my passport doesn't show my entry into Dubai. Technically, transfer passengers don't enter the country.

Do whatever you want bud, I couldn’t care less, but the wording is perfectly clear and you’ll need to fill out a declaration on arrival as well, and filling it out falsely makes you liable for a 1000 pound fine (also in the link)

[polpott]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

Do whatever you want bud, I couldn’t care less, but the wording is perfectly clear and you’ll need to fill out a declaration on arrival as well, and filling it out falsely makes you liable for a 1000 pound fine (also in the link)

Never filled out a declaration on arrival. I am a UK citizen with a UK passport, which, I presume, you are not.

[Dialemco]

2 minutes ago, polpott said:

Not since midnight last night. How would immigration in the UK know that I'd been to Dubai. On arrival I present my passport to a reader and walk through the gate. No questions asked and my passport doesn't show my entry into Dubai. Technically, transfer passengers don't enter the country.

Better check your facts you have to send questionnaire by email before departure country of origin declaring your full itinerary 

[polpott]

1 minute ago, Dialemco said:

Better check your facts you have to send questionnaire by email before departure country of origin declaring your full itinerary 

Not any more. Check your facts. And what if you live in the UK? Itinerary for the rest of your life?

Edited September 18, 2020 by polpott

[anemone]

I wish they d copy this system for Thailand, makes more sense than quarantine for everyone...

[Hamus Yaigh]

10 minutes ago, polpott said:

I am a UK citizen with a UK passport

Exactly, you are free to flout whatever regulations you like and put everyone else at risk bro.

 

From above web site:

Transit stops

A transit stop is a stop where passengers can get on or off. It can apply to coaches, ferries, trains or flights. Your ticket should show if a stop is a transit stop.

If your journey involves a transit stop in a country, territory or region not on the travel corridor list, you will need to self-isolate when you arrive in England if:

• new passengers get on
• you or other passengers get off the transport you are on and mix with other people, then get on again

You don’t need to self-isolate beyond normal timescales if, during your transit stop in a non-exempt country, territory or region:

• no new passengers get on
• no-one on-board gets off and mixes with people outside
• passengers get off but do not get back on

[Mama Noodle]

23 minutes ago, polpott said:

Never filled out a declaration on arrival. I am a UK citizen with a UK passport, which, I presume, you are not.

This is probably your first covid too (like everyone else).

 

American, but I can read and have been following along with covid travel stuff for months now because my employment requires constant travel. 

[Mama Noodle]

15 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Exactly, you are free to flout whatever regulations you like and put everyone else at risk bro.

Crazy because common sense would (should) dictate that a person going home is likely gonna be around family, and should self isolate after high risk exposure regardless of whether or not the law mandates it. 

[polpott]

4 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Crazy because common sense would (should) dictate that a person going home is likely gonna be around family, and should self isolate after high risk exposure regardless of whether or not the law mandates it. 

Currently in the UK (far more so in the US), the average person is far more at risk from their next door neighbour than from someone who has traveled from Thailand and transited through Dubai airport.

 

 

Edited September 18, 2020 by polpott

[bkk_mike]

36 minutes ago, polpott said:

Not any more. Check your facts. And what if you live in the UK? Itinerary for the rest of your life?

I think you're confused...

They got rid of landing cards.

 

But this new Covid questionnaire is not a landing card. You can fill it in online, but you have to give your flight details and where you'll be staying for the two week self-isolation (if your journey details show you need to self-isolate).

[polpott]

13 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

This is probably your first covid too (like everyone else).

 

American, but I can read and have been following along with covid travel stuff for months now because my employment requires constant travel. 

So, you have never entered the UK with a UK passport?

[polpott]

1 minute ago, bkk_mike said:

I think you're confused...

They got rid of landing cards.

 

But this new Covid questionnaire is not a landing card. You can fill it in online, but you have to give your flight details and where you'll be staying for the two week self-isolation (if your journey details show you need to self-isolate).

And if you don't fill it in?

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, polpott said:

So, you have never entered the UK with a UK passport?

Do you think your U.K. passport exempts you from the covid questionnaire?

[polpott]

Just now, Mama Noodle said:

Do you think your U.K. passport exempts you from the covid questionnaire?

i think it exempts me from interfacing with an immigration officer.

[GeorgeCross]

excellent news for stranded brits, no quarantine, extensions or extra docs now required!

 

 

 

 

[Mama Noodle]

6 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

excellent news for stranded brits, no quarantine, extensions or extra docs now required!

This always made me curious, Brits have always been able to go home, just like Americans. 

[Guderian]

Since hardly anybody in England and Wales is paying attention to the quarantine rules, what does it matter which country is on the list and which isn't? New cases are rising sharply, and now deaths have started creeping upward again, so much for Boris's "voluntary" quarantine.

[dave moir]

1 hour ago, brommers said:

Oh gosh, how wonderful!

No, wait. Does England not have over 3000 new infections per day, does England not have a testing system that is about to collapse, does England not have resurgent city by city lockdowns, does England not have the threat of curfews being imposed???

Why would anyone in their right mind want to go to this shambolic mess of a country!

???? Gather you're not English! ????

[Crusader]

Well, that's still not a good enough reason to want to go there anyway.

[stephenterry]

Quite agree. 

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, polpott said:

How would immigration in the UK know that I'd been to Dubai? On arrival I present my passport to a reader and walk through the gate. No questions asked and my passport doesn't show my entry into Dubai. Technically, transfer passengers don't enter the country.

 

 

That´s wrong! Even if you do not have a stamp in your passport, you will still have a digital travel trace in your passport, as it´s scanned at every arrival. So, you can be sure they know where you have been as well as that you will get 14 days of beautiful quarantine if the country is not on the list. Problem solved! ????