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Thailand reports first coronavirus death in over 100 days


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On 9/18/2020 at 10:49 PM, MyTHaiMyKe said:

If thailand did testing, they would find a lot more cases of the china/xi virus than they think they have!

Bangkok Post, today. 3 people arrived from Thailand in Japan, all tested negative 2 days before leaving Thailand having been tested at hospitals. They tested positive after arrival in Japan. 

They had been in circulation amongst large groups of people in Thailand. 

They do not propose a risk to Thai people, Thais are immune, don't worry, no one will be affected by this. 

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Wow Saudia Arabia is a hot spot.  Meanwhile in the USA  6.61 million infected,

approaching 200 thousand deaths, and yet some Idiots there are telling other

people to take off their masks. Is that country a land of Idiots. The Americans who still

think that their absolute freedom is more important than being cautious maybe

the next bunch to get sick, and some more will die. I would hope that there will be

enough intelligent people in that country to have enough smarts to ignore their

village idiots.  Thailand, stay cautious, but remember  that there is a lot of

people who are out of work because of this virus.  A new plan is needed, but

is the government and TAT smart enough to come up with a good plan?

Geezer

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9 hours ago, Tounge Thaied said:

It's not false... a large percentage of asymptomatic "cases" are in fact not spreaders. A small percentage are spreaders. 

 

I don't know what you mean when you use the term "spreader".  What I was talking about is the fact that asymptomatic and presymptomatic people can absolutely be "contagious" and spread the virus to others around them.

 

If you think that's not the case, please provide some credible, unbiased documentation that supports your view, other than you just claiming it's so.
 

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Testing of people without symptoms is especially critical because the CDC estimates that up to 40 percent of people infected with the novel coronavirus show no symptoms of covid-19 but still may be highly infectious and spread the virus.

 

 

Brett Giroir, an assistant secretary at the Department of Health and Human Services:

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“I want people to know that if you are asymptomatic, you can still spread the virus,” Giroir said. “That’s why masks are so important, and we want to encourage asymptomatic people to be tested.”

 

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The updated [CDC] recommendation posted Friday says: “Due to the significance of asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic transmission, this guidance further reinforces the need to test asymptomatic persons, including close contacts of a person with documented SARS-CoV-2 infection.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/18/cdc-reverses-controversial-coronavirus-guidelines-testing-people-without-symptoms/

 

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12 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Absurd isn't it.....

The reason Thais aren't tested prior to flight is because they are repatriating.  As such Thailand cannot refuse them entry.  They can however refuse foreigners.  Same in any country.

The test a couple of days prior to a flight just means you are not showing positive at that point.  Because of the incubation period you could easily have it.  This is the reason for the 14 day quarantine during which everybody is isolated and tested twice - on the 5th day and 13th day - and yes, that applies to Thais and their children too.

 

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8 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

Bangkok Post, today. 3 people arrived from Thailand in Japan, all tested negative 2 days before leaving Thailand having been tested at hospitals. They tested positive after arrival in Japan. 

They had been in circulation amongst large groups of people in Thailand. 

They do not propose a risk to Thai people, Thais are immune, don't worry, no one will be affected by this. 

Maybe some false positives, due to being saliva tests which seemingly can be inaccurate. Like one of the earlier 'positive' test of a traveller from Thailand to Japan back in August. 

https://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/detail/TCATG200816100910455

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On 9/18/2020 at 5:36 PM, ourmanflint said:

You have to ask yourself if 1 death in 100 days is worth the current economic chaos Thailand has put itself through?

What? That makes no sense at all. What you have to ask is if the current economic hardship is worth all the potential deaths it has spared us, which is impossible to answer. But if Thailand would've had the same amount of deaths per capita as Sweden, for example, there would've been 40.000 deaths from corona.

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On 9/19/2020 at 12:19 PM, djuiiy said:

by that logic all social animals should have been wearing masks for millions of years. Odd that masks never evolved in any animal as a porous flap of skin over the breathing holes. Instead, all social animals have no obstruction breathing holes and lick or rub noses with each other to share germs.
In other words, all the social animal species that choose to not share germs go extinct. The only successful survival strategy is to share germs, keeping immune system active and updated. Herd immunity is strong.
I wonder if the thai gov are going to enforce the same stratergy wrt heart attacks, which tend to happen during physical stress : never do any exercise, because that puts stress on the heart. Also for mental health, never do any mental work, because that puts stress on the brain and might lead to a mental breakdown and suicide. Same for all your other systems/organs besides you immune system, never use them, because that puts stress on them, which might damage and destroy them, hence death.

"In other words, all the social animal species that choose to not share germs go extinct." Yeah, right.... Seems you are unfamiliar with evolution, along with logic. "all social animals should have been wearing masks..."

Native American populations were decimated when European diseases came with settlers. Europeans thought they were moving into "empty lands". The viruses preceded them.

Currently there are so many people on earth that yes, humans would not go extinct. Maybe watch some Mad Max films...

I think it is insane to consider that losing huge fractions of population is preferable to wearing masks, washing hands and distancing. And as many scientists have repeatedly said, this is a new virus and we don't know that much about it: how long do antibodies protect, for example. Covid from same family as "common cold". Gee, I had a cold when I was 5: why am I not immune? Give a read of this for a comparison of "novel" diseases and their impact.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/06/how-europeans-brought-sickness-new-world

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