Medical experts see Covid-19 risk for Thailand from foreigners

[NanLaew]

52 minutes ago, Strongheart said:

Criminal pseudo science politicized. The COVIT-19 "virus" has never been isolated. It's very existence is questionable.

The worldwide used PCR-Tests can not determine the presence of this "virus" nor are they able to determine if there is an infection.

This is a global hoax, a scamdemic. Entire economies are being crashed to be bought back later for cents on the dollar.

Wake up people !!!

Can I ask a favor while you're way out there in left field? Can you keep a lookout for the new Chinese crypto currency that will usher in phase three of Comrade Xi's global domination game.

 

Thanks!

NL

[PEE TEE]

56 minutes ago, onekoolguy said:

The virus went through my brothers family in Chicago a couple of weeks ago. He and wife are in 50's with 2 boys late teens.

He had sore throat and light fever for 3 days. Rest of family symthoms like hay fever 5 days. Thats all now ok.

The boys friends have mostly had it and are ok.

A lot of people that are getting it now are not severly effected? Maybe the virus is changing?

the world's social media are very good a causing people to panic , thinking if they get infected they will die  

[NanLaew]

4 minutes ago, PEE TEE said:

So now other asians  are called as farang i thought was only westerners 

I don't see the word 'farang' anywhere in the referenced OP.

 

Now if some lonely farang sociopaths with fragile ego's and an overinflated sense of their societal value here have introduced it in the interim four pages, then that's par for the course IMHO.

[Pedrogaz]

Unpopular but he is right. Coronavirus rates are far higher in other countries so letting in migrants, especially from Europe and America, raises the risk here in Thailand. Thailand and is a victim of its own success. Does anyone really think there was a grand plan to shut down tourism? Grow up.

[Mark17AA]

"Both countries have a long border"

 

Oh really, one not longer than the other then.

[NanLaew]

3 minutes ago, PEE TEE said:

the world's social media are very good a causing people to panic , thinking if they get infected they will die  

Almost a million dead people would agree.

[Cake Monster]

17 hours ago, PatOngo said:

With a population in excess of 65 million, why does Thailand even need to bring laborers from neighbouring countries? Could it be that the neighbours provide better quality, more reliable/energetic labor! ???? 

 

 

No ! they provide a willingness to actually work, and are a source of very cheap Labour and high profits for Thai Business Owners 

[Peterphuket]

The next expert is coming.

This world is ful(l) of experts, one knows even better than the other.

 

Ultimately, nobody knows.

[Peterphuket]

5 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Almost a million dead people would agree.

So what?? With more than 5 billion people.

And for sure? All this people died from Covid-19?

I dare to doubt it.

[dallen52]

17 hours ago, PatOngo said:

With a population in excess of 65 million, why does Thailand even need to bring laborers from neighbouring countries? Could it be that the neighbours provide better quality, more reliable/energetic labor! ???? 

 

 

Bottom line profit. 

The contract is done on 500 baht a day. 

The contractor puts it out at 450 a day.

Then sub contracts at 400 a day.

The labour is hired from neighboring countries at 300 to 350 a man day...

 

Sadly you get what you pay for. 

The owners think they are getting a quality job and pay 500 a day.

Reality is..

The labour is done by imported workers who get 250 to 300 a day...????

[Peterphuket]

Panic, panic, panic is all they like to create!

[johnny49r]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Allowing foreigners entry is risky for Thailand and it might be better to follow the sufficiency economy philosophy to lower dependence on foreigners until the virus situation can be contained globally,

Thailand has talked for decades about achieving a sufficiency economy but hasn't had the leadership to make it happen. Thailand can't simply drop tourism and switch to some other enigmatic occupation. If Thais want to achieve sufficiency and reduce or eliminate dependence on tourism they will need to dramatically improve their quality of education and develop a better class of government but it's a bit late for that now that the crisis is here.

So how are the people who rely on tourism going to live by following the 'sufficiency economy philosophy'? This works for the 1% but how about everyone else?

 

[micmichd]

2 minutes ago, johnny49r said:

Thailand has talked for decades about achieving a sufficiency economy but hasn't had the leadership to make it happen. Thailand can't simply drop tourism and switch to some other enigmatic occupation. If Thais want to achieve sufficiency and reduce or eliminate dependence on tourism they will need to dramatically improve their quality of education and develop a better class of government but it's a bit late for that now that the crisis is here.

So how are the people who rely on tourism going to live by following the 'sufficiency economy philosophy'? This works for the 1% but how about everyone else?

 

Everyone else gets protected from foreigners that might bring viruses into the country. 

[Kaopad999]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Allowing foreigners entry is risky for Thailand and it might be better to follow the sufficiency economy philosophy to lower dependence on foreigners until the virus situation can be contained globally,” said Dr Thira.

Something i have been saying for the past couple of months on several of these threads.

I'm glad that my opinion has been backed up by a leading medical expert.

[Strongheart]

4 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

Something i have been saying for the past couple of months on several of these threads.

I'm glad that my opinion has been backed up by a leading medical expert.

Your "Medical Expert" is a lying shill.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, Wildliferescue said:

Doctors should run hospitals, not countries. Obviously. 

and soldiers should stick to the parade grounds and not attempt to run countries.

[steelepulse]

I'd love to see what the long term plan is.  It sure appears as if there isn't one and the general in charge is in such fear that he doesn't care if starvation, depression and other diseases kills hundreds of thousands of Thai people while waiting on the miraculous vaccine which if it's as effective as the flu vaccine, really isn't effective. 

 

Then what happens when the vaccine is shown to not be very effective?

[Bobydog]

With a population in excess of 65 million, why does Thailand even need to bring laborers from neighbouring countries? Could it be that the neighbours provide better quality, more reliable/energetic labor!  Many Thai Husbands send their wives out to work while sitting at home or elsewhere with their hand out for beer and ciggarett money, put them to work

 

[NoshowJones]

36 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

Unpopular but he is right. Coronavirus rates are far higher in other countries so letting in migrants, especially from Europe and America, raises the risk here in Thailand. Thailand and is a victim of its own success. Does anyone really think there was a grand plan to shut down tourism? Grow up.

Well why has the Thai unelected "government" chased so many tourists and expats away with their very unfair immigration issues even before the Virus came?

[Ketyo]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Allowing foreigners entry is risky for Thailand and it might be better to follow the sufficiency economy philosophy to lower dependence on foreigners until the virus situation can be contained globally,” said Dr Thira.

What qualifies the doctor to give advice on economics?

[micmichd]

7 minutes ago, Bobydog said:

With a population in excess of 65 million, why does Thailand even need to bring laborers from neighbouring countries? Could it be that the neighbours provide better quality, more reliable/energetic labor!  Many Thai Husbands send their wives out to work while sitting at home or elsewhere with their hand out for beer and ciggarett money, put them to work

 

Its getting better. Many Issan husbands now got jobs here in Chonburi (EEC), and they do work for their money. And still live together with their families. 

 

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, rtco said:

Eh ... please explain? There ain't no economy ... it's gone down the pan mate.

It's the philosophy of insufficient economy.Does that explain it for you Pauline?

[PatOngo]

57 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

As loath as I am to comment on the ignorant Thai bashing, the fact that Thailand has progressed from a mostly agrarian society to a mostly service industry based economy over the last 30 years or so is the very thing that enables you to squat here comfortably and freely type such misguided dross.

 

BTW, thanks for helping Thailand in this shift. Without your need for five-star resorts, condominiums, 'proper' bacon, Vegemite, the EPL and free Wi-Fi, they simply couldn't have done it without your collective, pontifical munificence.

I worked here and paid taxes for 30 years. I have trained hundreds of Thai's in that time, I have seen first hand the Thai attitude to work. Squatting here has NEVER been free! I don't stay in 5 star resorts, I don't live in a condominium, I can take or leave bacon, and I pay for my wi fi, you can jam the EPL! You keep hugging them everyday and do some research on 'Misguided ! ????

[Moon6966]

16 hours ago, baansgr said:

For any of those still hanging on to their business in the hope any kind of open border will be soon....this is a clear indication, cut your losses now as there ain't gonna be no tourists allowed back in Thailand for another year.

When eventually Thailand will open their will be nothing left for tourists to come no hotel no guesthouse no shopping no nothing 

All go bankrupt and finished 

Or do the government think that the people paying rent will just sit with no business for over a year? 

Those who Owen it will sell 

What will tourist do in Thailand? 

They will have to rebuild everything 

What's been achieved in about 40 years has gone by.. Over 

It's only going to be worse 

[micmichd]

9 minutes ago, Ketyo said:

What qualifies the doctor to give advice on economics?

He didn't. 

He gave advice on medicine. 

[fulhamster]

17 hours ago, rkidlad said:

Yes, a great idea to follow (if you have money). If you don’t, then all you have to look forward to is the sweet release of death. 
 

I was quite partial to the philosophy in the movie Layer Cake: 

 

“You’re born. You take s***. Get out in the world and take more s***. You climb a little higher and you take less s***. ‘Til one day you’re in the rarified atmosphere and you’ve forgotten what s*** even looks like”.

But of course in Thailand, this doesn’t apply. 

 

 

 

The 1% are born in the rarefied atmosphere and never look down

[Kaopad999]

28 minutes ago, Strongheart said:

Your "Medical Expert" is a lying shill.

And your evidence for that is based on what exactly? 

"Dr. Yong Poovorawan is widely recognized for his work on genetic sequencing and detection of the H5N1 avian influenza virus in Thailand, which saw outbreaks beginning in 2004, and is regarded as the national *expert* on the subject. He has received many awards for his research achievement such as National Researcher Awards from NRCT. He has published more than 500 Scopus papers with citation of more than 5000 and H-index of 39".

Yeah, sure, just sounds like a lying buffoon, right... 
 

Edited September 19, 2020 by Kaopad999

[Expat Tom]

Thailand bringing in cheap labor from neighboring countries is analogous to America bringing in cheap (and often illegal) laborers from south of the Rio Grande River. We could even go back further to the roots of slavery in America. I once saw a bumper sticker on a pickup truck in the "Deep South of the USA". It read, "If I knew then what I know now, I would have picked my own damn cotton". America has and will continue to pay for slavery because the British immigrants to the USA wouldn't do the work themselves. Thailand has become more wealthy than its neighbors. There are still economic problems here but a large number of Thais are driving nice cars and getting fat at McDonalds and are too lazy to do their own hard work. Thailand will pay the same price as America. Maybe in the future (20 years hence) you might see bumper stickers on Thai cars saying, "if I knew then what I know now I would have picked my own fruit, build my own buildings, and worked in my own low paying hotel jobs".   

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Take it you would have preferred Thailand followed the UK model, similar population, now looking at a new national lockdown to try and minimise the total projected covid related deaths of 69.5K by Jan 1st.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-kingdom?view=total-deaths&tab=trend

 

Remind me, how many covid related deaths in Thailand?

3600 viral pneumonia deaths of unknown cause when they stopped publishing the data in March and 433000 cases under investigation of which no follow up information has been forthcoming.That should give you an indication of what really happened in Thailand unless you believe the nonsense this administration  publishes after all the mainstream media is owned by the same boys in green who run the show.

[rupert the bear]

aghh self sufficiency and all foreign debt magically disappears along with investment. a remarkable economic miracle in the making,last time tried quite recently in a neighbouring country,cambodia year one a la pol pot and the thai govt tried to assist in the rape as much as possible so certain groups inc the military and thai chinese biz elite could enrich themselves.its all sounding so familiar isnt it!!!guess who was the biggest recipient of all the rice the cambodians needed ,yes the PMs new friends in mainland china.they took it as payment for debts owed.the rest is as we all know history.yep sounds like a great plan.all coz of what?another thai returning home with corona.why arnt these people tested before they get on the plane with a PCR test in the same way everyone else must be?its all so very weird.the answers  are banal and bizarre just like re opening for tourism,the level of intelligence is breath takingly lacking whilst on the same day 65 dead at the side of the road and the same no die of injuries in the next few days,but they dont count as we will look stupid so shut up or ill attack you,beam me up scotty!