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What happens next with UK plan to breach Brexit divorce treaty?


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3 hours ago, abrahamzvi said:

What about breaking a treaty? How can anyone, any country, trust a government which is not prepared to keep a contract that it negotiated and signed. UK will be even worse off than by just leaving the EU without an agreement on trade.

A trick treaty, 'broken' only by something with the importance of a council by-law, or of a parking ticket. The world doesn't care.

No agreement on trade is better than a bad agreement on trade. The UK will be OK thanks. What international products are you thinking of not dealing with us now?

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41 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

So: simple: an hard border at the outside of the EU. Means: between North and South Ireland.

A Good Friday agreement, with the British, which hold 20 years.

A "divorce" treaty with the British, which holds 12 months.

Why to negotiate with the British of any treaty anymore, as they hold as long as it pleases THEM ?

 

1 Jan: "third country" to the EU = WTO third country import duties into the EU, Schengen visa, international driver licence and insurances when British want to enter the EU... as long as the EU holds that treaty.

 

As trustworthy as a Brit...

 

If the EU wants to enforce a hard border between North and South Ireland, that's up to the EU. You should not also cry about the Good Friday Agreement though if you are the one who are frustrating it.

 

Third Country? Well that has caused you a problem now hasn't it? If you want to make it more difficult to move or trade over your borders, well that's also up to you. C'est la vie, but no great shakes.

 

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57 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

In these 3 1/2 months all parliaments of all 27 EU member states have to accept. If nothing comes to an acceptance, we have per 1 Jan a Hard Brexit and are the tiny islands west of the EU "third country". 

 

But.. is there really any Brit, who do not start to think what their EU customers are doing and did already ? Your really think there are many EU retail organisations, who accept a gamble on their purchasing prices and.. deliveries in time ? Or reserve their shops shelf spaces for goods they really can rely on ? ?

You think there are any industrial users of British raw materials, spares or components who trust on just-in-time supply and did not contract reliable sources inside the EU ? 

As international supermarket and industrial buyer since 1977 I can tell you: his battle is already fought and NOT won by the British. 2021 is already a lost year for the British exports.

Brits might think that way seeing how all goes ....but those brexiteers they are like those big horses in front of the beer delivery wagons in the old days ....you know ....with those side flaps beside their eyes ....????

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5 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

What cards does he have to play with? There is little in his deck to give us the upper hand. 

Lot easier doing a trade deal with one country rather than 26 that all have totally different economies...so he does have an advantage over the EU

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39 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

And I hope the Germans take control of Europe like in the 1940s and dictate what is law and how to do things with the countries bending over and taking it up the... I forgot they already are.

Seems that it is only disturbing you ....not us Europeans  ....whyyyy...! ????   ????

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1 minute ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Germany are the the largest country by population and GDP in Europe, certainly, but the idea that they control everything in the EU is silly. However it fits neatly into the Cummings inspired paranoid delusion that we (The people of UK) are being controlled by others. 

 

It is now 2020, we are in a much changed world, it is over 75 years since WW11. Do you think it is possible for certain Brexiteers on TV to grow up enough to recognise this era is long past, and almost entirely irrelevant to 2020, or are we going to have to go on endlessly listening to assorted versions of "Actung Spitfire"...............Yawn.

Well if you have an idea how the EEC started and the EU formed you would understand that it came from the second world war.

 

If you haven't that understanding then we have little to discuss. It is fine for posters to talk about the break up of a union that has been in existence for a few hundred years but the fact we tried a trade union that is not what was written on the paper and you are up in arms.

 

You can yawn, I find you ignorant of the actual facts.

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