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Wondered if there's any news on whats happening.

I have always had my big bikes in wife's name it was so much easier to sell and buy.

 

The big bike licence govt is debating has got me thinking it will be best I get the big bike I have now put in my name.

 

I guess then if the big bike DL does become an additional DL to my present one I will be able to obtain one showing the ownership of the green book of a big bike in my name.

 

I think this big bike DL thing is good, I like govt to limit use of scoots as well over 155 say.

Since these bigger scoots of 250 or more have come out I have seen so much more people riding them who just look like accidents waiting to happen. 

 

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>= and "AND". That's what "some newspaper" said:       Sometimes I see some Honda NSR 150 or 250 on the streets of Phuket. These two strokes are ferocious. Probably also tun

My 5 year bike licence is up for renewal next year, so will be interesting to see what happens.  I'm not too worried though.  When I moved here in 1990 I had a valid car licence from my home country,

Then that'd make a nonsense of the power limit, wouldn't it? "You can ride a small bike of more that 47hp on a 'standard' licence, but not a 400cc+ bike with the more than 47hp". Of course, we all kno

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I don't think the DL has much to do with the green book. The DL doesn't show what bike you own and the green book doesn't show if you have a license. One can even own bikes and cars without having a drivers license.

 

So regarding the new big bike license I don't think it makes any difference if the bike is in your name or your wife's. I have all my bikes in my name, don't find it much hassle really. Just needed to get one immigration paper for registration or when I'll sell but I usually keep my bikes for 5+ years.

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23 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

I don't think the DL has much to do with the green book. The DL doesn't show what bike you own and the green book doesn't show if you have a license. One can even own bikes and cars without having a drivers license.

 

So regarding the new big bike license I don't think it makes any difference if the bike is in your name or your wife's. I have all my bikes in my name, don't find it much hassle really. Just needed to get one immigration paper for registration or when I'll sell but I usually keep my bikes for 5+ years.

Fair call and yeah I get you, what I thought was if I have valid Thai motorcycle DL and my name is in a green book of a 900cc bike, a Thai big bike license would be made available to me.

If they make everybody with big bikes take tests OK but can you imagine the added problems at DLT's. 

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1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

Fair call and yeah I get you, what I thought was if I have valid Thai motorcycle DL and my name is in a green book of a 900cc bike, a Thai big bike license would be made available to me.

If they make everybody with big bikes take tests OK but can you imagine the added problems at DLT's. 

Unfortunately I think owning a big bike and having years of experience will not interest the DLT.  I think they will do it like the current licenses. If you have a license from your home country that they recognize as allowing big bikes (EU class A for example) then you can get a Thai big bike license without much hassle. And if not then you will have to do special tests. I am actually very convinced that they will partner with for example the Honda Safety Riding Parks which already have riding schools to make those big bike licenses tests. Thinking about it, I would probably enjoy going there for a day to do some learning and tests. I don't mind it really and I always meet nice and interesting people at places like that.

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OP, you write "I like govt to limit use of scoots as well over 155 say. Since these bigger scoots of 250 or more .."

You did read, that the Thai govt has declared "Big" to be 400cc and more?

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9 hours ago, eisfeld said:

If you have a license from your home country that they recognize as allowing big bikes (EU class A for example) then you can get a Thai big bike license without much hassle.

With my valid full UK DL with category 'A' for motorcycle shown on it is how I got my Thai motorcycle DL that one of my points.

However I have been in Thailand 15 years so my UK is out of date but I still kept it.

As for having to do a test OK I would look forward to a laugh. 👍

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9 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:

OP, you write "I like govt to limit use of scoots as well over 155 say. Since these bigger scoots of 250 or more .."

You did read, that the Thai govt has declared "Big" to be 400cc and more?

That's my point 400cc for bikes has been the cut point as I see it with dealers going back years.

Honda put out in Thailand a 299 cc scooter now I think a 350 cc is going to be available.

They should be classed as big bikes IMHO.

Letting kids on CBR250's is crazy enough.

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10 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

That's my point 400cc for bikes has been the cut point as I see it with dealers going back years.

Honda put out in Thailand a 299 cc scooter now I think a 350 cc is going to be available.

They should be classed as big bikes IMHO.

Letting kids on CBR250's is crazy enough.

 

There's the usual enforcement issue though. No matter what new regulations are introduced, if 4 kiddies can ride on a motorbike without helmets, license or any training/education without punishment (incl. their parents) then all bets are off.

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I wonder if people will be allowed to test for the ‘Big Licence’ on a smaller bike ?

i.e. Take the test on a 150cc or 300cc machine before upsizing to a larger bike. 

Or will Thai Logic take hold and we will be told we have to be riding a big bike before we are allowed to take a test to allow us to ride a big bike !!!!! 

 

 

I think the enforcement of this will become a farce. I wonder if or when this regulation actually rolls out the BiB will simply be stopping those on big bikes knowing the odds that most won’t have the ‘big bike licence’ - that reason enough to get the License as soon as they are rolled out... and of course, as Kwasaki wrote, actually doing the test could be entertaining. 

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41 minutes ago, bprinceuk said:

In the UK, you must be 21 or over, and if you take your test on a bike under 500cc, after passing the test you are limited to I believe its 44hp for two years. 

Yeah I guess that's where I'm coming from so to speak. 

Reminds me my youngest son at 16 yr he got his UK provisional motorbike license he sent off for it early.

I got him the 50cc bike he was allowed to ride on the road but he had to attend a test place first forget what it's called, he hated the bike he could run faster. 😁

 

He had been riding bikes since he was 3yr,  after 1yr he could get a 125 which made him happier. 

After 2 years he could apply for a full license and when he passed his UK test he could go to a 600 but restricted I think for 1 yr and when he got to a certain age he could ride anything. 

 

As said don't think anything like that would work in Thailand the road police would have to work too hard. 😂

 

 

 

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I think I read somewhere the new requirement is supposed to come in force from beginning of next year, but only a few months to go, no one knows anything about it...

 

It's a great money grab tool for the bibs...! Don't compare with before, now there is this new big bike license requirement...

 

@Kwasaki are you jealous of Forza riders now that they don't need this new big bike license.... ! lol... 😅

 

To be honest a 300 or 400 are just as bad in being ridden dangerously, it's hard to draw the line somewhere but they have to pick a number...

 

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