Still Hungry: Thousands in Phuket remain in need of food donations as government efforts stall

[connda]

The Elite

"I see nothing.  Nothing!"

 

 

Hummm. Wonder how many proles one man's bling could feed and for how many days?  ????

[simple1]

2 hours ago, toast1 said:

Has anyone else noticed how many fat people line up for free food.

I've seen this in my own country too. Whenever you see a photo of people desperate for food, they are always fat, or obese. 

 

Don't see too many thin people lining up for food.

 Cold something else be going on?

 

Obesity can be a sign of poor diet and you don't have to be thin to be hungry.  

 

 

Edited September 19, 2020 by simple1

[steven100]

9 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

First thing they would have to show them how to use a toilet, Im not kidding

agree ..... these folks are not starving  !  you want to see starving go check out Yemen or Ethiopia.

I understand their plight but two days ago Phuket hoteliers said they don't want foreigners in their hotels so if they are good Thai Buddhist then the hotel owner should give them room and food ..... I won't hold my breath.   Or is it a case of don't want farang and don't want to help THAIS ....  LOL

Edited September 19, 2020 by steven100

[ChipButty]

5 minutes ago, steven100 said:

agree ..... these folks are not starving  !  you want to see starving go check out Yemen or Ethiopia.

I understand their plight but two days ago Phuket hoteliers said they don't want foreigners in their hotels so if they are good Thai Buddhist then the hotel owner should give them room and food ..... I won't hold my breath.   Or is it a case of don't want farang and don't want to help THAIS ....  LOL

I live here in Phuket they are not starving believe me 

[ronaldo0]

I did wonder how all these people were surviving as the first 4 months there were queues everywhere in towns with people needing food etc and they lined up for ages to get a handout mostly from people who had set it up on Facebook to help and certainly not the government .

Then the government handed out the 5000bht for three months but not many got it . But last three months I haven’t seen any sign on the internet of people queuing up for food or any mention of places doing it , yet the employment rate has dropped like a stone in places so how are they getting by daily ??

[steven100]

22 minutes ago, connda said:

The Elite

"I see nothing.  Nothing!"

 

 

Hummm. Wonder how many proles one man's bling could feed and for how many days?  ????

you just don't know what is correct and real .... you see this article and you assume it's true  !!

well guess what  !   THEY ARE NOTHUNGRY, THEY ARE NOT STARVING .....  it's a media hype , thats all !!!

Maybe the hotelier's association can assist as they don't want farang now so plenty of vacant rooms.

[Pancho]

Let them eat cake.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

The two ladies at the front of the line don't look all that hungry or underfed.

Perhaps they are there to get food for their children and families.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

as i said .... those first two women have been in a good paddock  ?

But unless you have been there and talked to those women, YOU don't know anything about them at all. You have no idea what they did, how many are in their family, where they live or what will happen to them.

 

We only have your word and TBH that isn't worth anything at all.

 

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

why are you folks so naive and gullible... you are the same as aussie's and everywhere ... you see it on the internet or the news and instantly you think it must true .... lol

You really think everything you read is true   ???   grow up ... imo

And you believe that everything Prayuth says is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

 

IMHO, you are the naive and gullible person on this forum.

 

Do you think really think everything you read is true, especially from Prayuth and his fake government?

[SiSePuede419]

Hey, selling off 40 jets, helicopters and other aircraft could probably buy a lot of Khao and moo ping.  Hint, hint. ????

[Tchooptip]

9 hours ago, colinneil said:

What do these people expect?

Help from a bunch of geriatric/ past their sell by date ex army wallas, more interested in buying useless Chinese subs, Stryker APCs, Ukrain tanks, than helping the people.

A very sad pathetic state of affairs, Prayut sitting in his ivory tower, immune to reality.

Prayut sitting in his ivory tower, immune to reality.

My dear Colin I know the ivory tower is a cliché that everyone knows but, sorry  in the case of Prayut it's an armour tower with loopholes and machine guns ????

[CanuckThai]

You would assume that local temples would dip into to their baht caves, and nourish a few of the needy.  All the baht donations missing? Spoken for?  What exactly is the mandate of a temple, during a time of need?

[Banana7]

2 hours ago, ICELANDMAN said:

Good question why does the government want the remaining tourists to leave when it needs the tourists to support the economy?
I have the impression that the government uses C19 for some obscure plans, is it not just the question of health security, is much more.

With an economic and military alliance with China? In this case, Westerners would no longer be welcome and tolerated only those who have married Thais with children.

 

 

Because anyone who stays in a country the size of Thailand for more 2 or 3 months is really not a tourist. A tourist is a person who tours an area for pleasure or culture. If you're staying longer than 2 or 3 months, you're here for something other than to tour the country. People on amnesty have been here for about 7+ months.

 

There many reasons to stay in Thailand other than tourism. Many other types of visas are available to extend your stay for legitimate reasons. Try to be honest when stating why you want to stay.

 

Edited September 19, 2020 by Banana7

[Benmart]

9 hours ago, steven100 said:

those first couple of women don't look like they're starving. 

A sour outlook sometimes hardens the arteries and turns the heart cold to the plight of others.

[dogfish180]

9 hours ago, steven100 said:

those first couple of women don't look like they're starving. 

They are not. They're hungry! Read the headline ????

[Sean60]

10 hours ago, steven100 said:

This is unacceptable, why hasn't the local mayor contacted his Bangkok counterpart and organized food and water and supplies This is concerning to me and i'm sure if the PM Khun Prayut was made aware of this he would most certainly be annoyed nothing was done, and i'm sure he would act. 

I expect we'll see follow up action later today .... imo

Hahahaha

[connda]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

you just don't know what is correct and real .... you see this article and you assume it's true  !!

well guess what  !   THEY ARE NOTHUNGRY, THEY ARE NOT STARVING .....  it's a media hype , thats all !!!

Maybe the hotelier's association can assist as they don't want farang now so plenty of vacant rooms.

Abject poverty is very real in Thailand.  I don't have to "read" anything - I can walk though the village.  I know who is well to do, who is doing Ok, and who are subsisting.   And no - people are not starving here.  Food is plentiful and cheap.  But!  Most governments pay lip service to the poor while they assist the wealthy in harvesting wealth for the 99%.  How do you think these "Civil Servant" all end up as wealthy themselves.  And this latest move to destroy global economies in a way the kills the lower and middle classes while the wealthy just keep getting wealthier. And that wealth does trickle down.  Just take a look at the bling that supposed "Civil Servants" are sporting. 
"Ah, they inherited it!"
Right.    Take a shower and cool off.  You totally missed the point.

[Destiny1990]

Where is tvf member Waverunner explaining how healthy fasting really is..

[Sean60]

I bet these people were not asked if they want to open the borders!!!!!1

More than 6 months of Shut down. Bankrupcies on every corner. Unemployment getting higher and higher.

I respect the fact that one dose not want the covid in the country.

However after 6 months of lockdown surly they are prepared to fight the pandemic. Hospitals with extra beds and all necessarily equipment.

The vis skims will not work. The strategy must be that we live with the virus. You can not shut down the country for such a long time with out any kind of support.

[connda]

Hungry?  Probably not.  But they are economizing in an economic downturn that is very real.  That simply means taking the free stuff where you can get in in order to stretch what income you have.  You guys with silver spoons stuck in your derriere and a smug attitude never have had to economize in you own lives 'eh? Try proverty sometimes.  It's a humbling experience.  Then you might develop some empathy for these people instead of being heartless prigs.

[sambum]

5 hours ago, sambum said:

Callous remark! What do you expect? Black and white Belsen type pics?

 

IMO a disgraceful situation when you consider the amount of money spent on submarines and planes!

Obviously one of the "reactees" to my post is "Confused" because he has never been in a position where he has not had enough money to buy food, and is therefore confused by the fact that some people are actually in that situation! His next comment might well be "Let them eat cake"!

 

Seriously, a bit of sympathy might be in order here rather than the type of comment one expects from the "haves"!

[Banana7]

52 minutes ago, Sean60 said:

I bet these people were not asked if they want to open the borders!!!!!1

More than 6 months of Shut down. Bankrupcies on every corner. Unemployment getting higher and higher.

I respect the fact that one dose not want the covid in the country.

However after 6 months of lockdown surly they are prepared to fight the pandemic. Hospitals with extra beds and all necessarily equipment.

The vis skims will not work. The strategy must be that we live with the virus. You can not shut down the country for such a long time with out any kind of support.

Only the areas that depend on foreign tourists are without revenue. Areas like Phuket, Pattaya, inner city Chiang Mai, several islands are experiencing a catastrophe. People whose livelihood depends on foreign tourist revenue are suffering deeply.

 

However, the rest of country is doing reasonably well. The official government forecast is for only a 8% decline in GDP from 2019. Bangkok is as busy as ever, no slowdown. Up north, the rice fields are growing. So looking at all businesses in Thailand, basically 92% are stilling doing okay.

 

Why risk opening the borders without proper quarantines for tourists? It's silly to open them. If the borders are opened without necessary precautions, it will cause deaths, great expenses for health care, and for what?? just increase GDP temporarily by 8%. Once the virus returns and runs rampant, the GDP will be down 20-30% maybe more, because of all the dead and sick people, and new curfews and all the other restrictions we went through to become virus free.

 

In summary, if someone moves your cheese, you need to move to find another piece of cheese. One has to change, to changing circumstances. To be more specific, move to where the money is. There is lots of money in Thailand and it is not in the tourist areas.

 

 

 

Edited September 19, 2020 by Banana7

[jpduggan]

 Disgraceful, and when the dust settles we will see who has raped Thailand

[JUAinBKK]

12 hours ago, steven100 said:

This is unacceptable, why hasn't the local mayor contacted his Bangkok counterpart and organized food and water and supplies This is concerning to me and i'm sure if the PM Khun Prayut was made aware of this he would most certainly be annoyed nothing was done, and i'm sure he would act. 

I expect we'll see follow up action later today .... imo

 

12 hours ago, steven100 said:

This is unacceptable, why hasn't the local mayor contacted his Bangkok counterpart and organized food and water and supplies This is concerning to me and i'm sure if the PM Khun Prayut was made aware of this he would most certainly be annoyed nothing was done, and i'm sure he would act. 

I expect we'll see follow up action later today .... imo

That is the best laugh I have had in weeks!  I’m sure many are confused at your humor, but I know you can’t possibly be that out of touch with reality!!!!!

[trucking]

The people of Phuket supported the PDRC and Suthep ?? They closed Phuket airport to support the overthrow of an elected government ?

 

This is fake news surely ? In fact they must in reality be very happy that they got the government they wished for.

 

Just wait until they see those Chinese submarines sailing around their little island. Truly they will say Prayuth has returned happiness to them in full.

[Airalee]

1 hour ago, Banana7 said:

Only the areas that depend on foreign tourists are without revenue. Areas like Phuket, Pattaya, inner city Chiang Mai, several islands are experiencing a catastrophe. People whose livelihood depends on foreign tourist revenue are suffering deeply.

 

However, the rest of country is doing reasonably well. The official government forecast is for only a 8% decline in GDP from 2019. Bangkok is as busy as ever, no slowdown. Up north, the rice fields are growing. So looking at all businesses in Thailand, basically 92% are stilling doing okay.

 

Why risk opening the borders without proper quarantines for tourists? It's silly to open them. If the borders are opened without necessary precautions, it will cause deaths, great expenses for health care, and for what?? just increase GDP temporarily by 8%. Once the virus returns and runs rampant, the GDP will be down 20-30% maybe more, because of all the dead and sick people, and new curfews and all the other restrictions we went through to become virus free.

 

In summary, if someone moves your cheese, you need to move to find another piece of cheese. One has to change, to changing circumstances. To be more specific, move to where the money is. There is lots of money in Thailand and it is not in the tourist areas.

 

 

 

So, what you’re saying is that they should “learn to code”

 

ok...gotcha.

[smudger1951]

9 hours ago, zyphodb said:

I totally agree that this disgraceful government, run by the rich for the rich should do much, much more, all over the country. I can't help thinking where are the rich of Phuket? who have made absolute fortunes gouging the tourists for the last 40 years or so? Any sign of them helping? nah, didn't think so...

zyphodb, You are correct, where were the well-heeled in Pattaya to help out ? Farangs came together to organise food distributions which I believe were then stopped by the Police.

[smudger1951]

3 hours ago, CanuckThai said:

You would assume that local temples would dip into to their baht caves, and nourish a few of the needy.  All the baht donations missing? Spoken for?  What exactly is the mandate of a temple, during a time of need?

CanuckThai, the many thai devotees who give to the temples for merit deserve some payback if the government won't take care.

[geriatrickid]

To borrow from the Epistle to the Galatians;  for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap  and oh so appropriate here.

 

Phuket is an integral part of the  triangle of corruption (Phuket-Surat Thani- Nakhon Si Thammarat) and it was a strong supporter of  Suthep Thaugsuban and his political machinations. Patong facilitated the grip of the corrupt beach and  taxi thugs, and where deceit and thievery flourished. It seems that both the municipality and the provincial adminstrations are MIA.

 

As sad as the pictures are, it  is quite likely that these same people took to the streets with their "yellow shirt" protests, and who gained from the  aforementioned beach and taxi thuggery. Along the tourist strip from Kata to Surin Beach, most Thais had some degree of taint. 

 

Unfortuunately, there are too many children going hungry and the situation is quite dire for some families. It should not come as a surprise if at some point people express their frustration in the predictable Thai form.

[dieter1]

12 hours ago, toast1 said:

Has anyone else noticed how many fat people line up for free food.

I've seen this in my own country too. Whenever you see a photo of people desperate for food, they are always fat, or obese. 

 

Don't see too many thin people lining up for food.

 Cold something else be going on?

 

ok I help you:

Today  (now. not 50 years ago), beeing fat is a sign of beeing poor. It is the same in all western countries (I think also fe. in Mexico). especially in USA. The unhealthy and cheap food makes you fat (sugar, proceeded food, etc.) Healthy  food is mostly more expensive. Plain sugar is extremly cheap . I do not make it up. You can find the facts at the WHO sides etc.

 

Yes, some of these people would be able to survive without food for 2 weeks. Meaning, they would  starve. After that time, they would start to die. Someone here even want to suggest that ? within this starvation time, some will die earlier and all all them will loose most of their energy. after  2 weeks without food, it will be very complicate to eat again and you need a special diet - otherwise it will get dangerous.

for children, even a diet without enough protein, will have a big negative effect. For example, their brain development will be hindered. this effect is irreversal, meaning , their intellectual ability will be limited for the rest of their life, meaning, their ability to work and earn sufficient money to provide themselves and their children is reduced.

 

sidenote: living for longer time without proper food means, especialy for children, their immune system will be less effective ....

 

Please , get yourself informed (you even could use internet !) before making those terrible remarks.