Ex-PM Thaksin asks Thai people if they are better off 14 years since the putsch

[steven100]

8 minutes ago, fangless said:

So your list of who is trying to arrest Thaksin comes down to a bunch of corrupt generals!

He is wanted by the authorities. 

 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2020 by steven100

[OneMoreFarang]

44 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Thailand was fully behind Thaksin until Sonthi came along mate. Sonthi caused it all after his mate Viroj was removed as CEO of KTB. 

 

KTB was Sonthi's personal piggy BANK, and he had billions of Baht worth of business and personal loans forgiven so he then went out to destroy Thaksin. 

 

In my 30 years I have never seen the country so united as after the 2001 elections. 

 

So you are talking nonsense. 

It seems you live somewhere up country possibly in a red-shirt village.

Thaksin was a problem for years before he did what he did more and more obvious and Sonthi had no problem gathering support to fight the corrupt criminal. People were frustrated with Thaksin and they were happy to have someone to lead them against Thaksin.

If you think I am talking nonsense then many you should get out of your village from time to time and visit the city with all those tax paying people.

[OneMoreFarang]

48 minutes ago, newatthis said:

Of course, Suthep, Prayut, Prawit and the rest of government cronies are just the bastion of unity and honesty, aren't they?

Is there only black and white?

Nobody ever said that all the others are the opposite of Thaksin. They are not. But all of them together are not as bad a Thaksin.

[geriatrickid]

6 hours ago, faraday said:

A long rant about Covid, & not much else.

At least you're not labelling people 'uneducated fools' like you have a number of times.

except there wasn't much said about Covid19, except that if he had the same results as the government (and he would have), his detractors would blame it on him.

The point being is that nothing has changed. The same foreigners who hated him then, still hate him now, except they are fewer in number because alot of the old farts have died off in the  14 years since. 

 

And no need to label some uneducated fools as they do a good job of showing  it all by themselves.

Are you one of the foreigners who blamed him for all manner of sins, but now curse the current administration?

 

[geriatrickid]

15 minutes ago, steven100 said:

He is wanted by the authorities. 

Which authorities? The military collective who seized power?

[KhunKenAP]

They have barricades and tanks in Bangkok protecting key spot. BBC World News has a report blocked, that is likely on the protests. Does anyone know of any live coverage on the internet? Thai PBS is broadcasting pictures but all in Thai.

[pkrv]

18 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Which authorities? The military collective who seized power?

And not forgetting these "authorities" went on to seize as much money as possible too, oink oink ????

Edited September 20, 2020 by pkrv

[darrendsd]

13 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

The rich obviously are, the poor not at all.

Cannot wait to read the drivel from the Thaksin haters, who, by the way, was fairly elected, as was his sister, who was also illegally deposed.

Fairly elected ????????????????????

 

If paying people to vote for you is being elected fairly then you really have no idea do you?

[holy cow cm]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

This guy's a has-been. He's a fugitive wanted by ASIO, Interpol and the Thai government.

Forget him and move on .....

Take away your mentor and his cronies' self given immunity and what do you have? Criminals of the highest breed needing to run from being prosecuted to China for exile as nobody else will take them. I would gather the real bottom thought from the new generation of Thai is let them all either go to prison or all go away and stay in exile as there is no room here for any of them here under the real Democratic system they oh so much want for "their" modern world. The new generation needs and wants true honest reform, and it is certainly not with your mentor and his cronies and the ones who they protect.

 

 

[NanLaew]

56 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Thailand was fully behind Thaksin until Sonthi came along mate. Sonthi caused it all after his mate Viroj was removed as CEO of KTB. 

 

KTB was Sonthi's personal piggy BANK, and he had billions of Baht worth of business and personal loans forgiven so he then went out to destroy Thaksin. 

 

In my 30 years I have never seen the country so united as after the 2001 elections. 

 

So you are talking nonsense. 

It seems you live somewhere up country possibly in a red-shirt village.

Thaksin was a problem for years before he did what he did more and more obvious and Sonthi had no problem gathering support to fight the corrupt criminal. People were frustrated with Thaksin and they were happy to have someone to lead them against Thaksin.

If you think I am talking nonsense then many you should get out of your village from time to time and visit the city with all those tax paying people.

Simply dripping with the Bangkok-based farang's sense of entitlement while comfortably couched in the simplistic, prehistoric but increasingly irrelevant terms of shirt colors. Whilst replete with the "you need to get out more" admonishment, it's ultimately as redundant as a happy-clapper.

 

Well done!

Edited September 20, 2020 by NanLaew

[holy cow cm]

49 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Is there only black and white?

Nobody ever said that all the others are the opposite of Thaksin. They are not. But all of them together are not as bad a Thaksin.

It is all black and black being like a poison for the country, and no they are not better than Thaskin, but probably the visa versa if you line up the facts and the majority of the Thai's general feelings now.

[holy cow cm]

41 minutes ago, MyTHaiMyKe said:

Until they get rid of the corrupt PM they have now

Goes a little bit deeper than that.

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[SomchaiCNX]

14 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

The rich obviously are, the poor not at all.

Cannot wait to read the drivel from the Thaksin haters, who, by the way, was fairly elected, as was his sister, who was also illegally deposed.

No problem if you still want to defend this criminal, up to you. When I came here in the eighties it was like paradise. To be honest I liked the guy for about three months and after a closer look I changed my mind. You will see that his power traject was based on the same old corruption and nepotism used by the others only he managed it better (the cover up). By the way... most politicians worldwide are criminals elected in office. My question to him and you, is he better of? Or better he still can he survive with his ill gained money? Looks like he and his family are just doing fine. He created all the mess in the first place. People like Berlusconi look like kindergarten students compared to this guy ????

[SomchaiCNX]

1 hour ago, Thaiwrath said:

Let's put it into perspective, which is the bigger crime ? Anything the elected PM Thaksin did, or.........................

Treason - the crime of betraying your country, for example by helping its enemies or by trying to remove its government using violence.

 

I rest my case, Prayut and his cronies should be removed, and incarcerated for a long spell.

The same goes for 80 % of all politician worldwide. But if you live long enough you will see them all day of old age anyway. ????

 

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, SomchaiCNX said:

Looks like he and his family are just doing fine. He created all the mess in the first place.

Would point out the mess was started in 1933 by Colonel Phraya Phahonphonphayuhasena.

[madmitch]

Thaksin was in charge when I first came to Thailand, having never had any interest in Thai politics previously. All I could see at that time was a corrupt, self-interested politician buying votes and introducing populist policies as a way of keeping power in order to continue inthe same way as long as possible.

 

Fast forward 14 years and we've seen a succession of Governments, including military ones, who have continued to milk the country, culminating in the current shower whose vested interests and favourtism to the biggest businesses in the country are to the exclusion of almost everyone else.

 

Was Thaksin as bad as these? I don't think so. At least he attempted to help the person in the street, even if his motives may have been disingenuous.

 

Give me Thanathorn any day but Thaksin would be a far better option than the incumbent.

 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2020 by madmitch

[mickymouse1]

The most CORRUPT POLITICIAN IN ASIA.

I am not surprised if he is not behind this protest/ financing it.

Economic problems, business closure & JOB LOSSES are not unique to Thialand if you are talking about the current time/ year Mr Taki

[OneMoreFarang]

55 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Simply dripping with the Bangkok-based farang's sense of entitlement while comfortably couched in the simplistic, prehistoric but increasingly irrelevant terms of shirt colors. Whilst replete with the "you need to get out more" admonishment, it's ultimately as redundant as a happy-clapper.

 

Well done!

I am not the one who is simplistic. Thaksin and his followers do that already. I am just observing what is happening.

Real democracy for Thailand would be a great idea. Unfortunately that is not what Thaksin wants. He calls whatever he is doing fighting for democracy but in reality it is fighting for himself and power for him.

I hope the students who really want democracy will stay away from Thaksin and his red mob.

[OneMoreFarang]

57 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

It is all black and black being like a poison for the country, and no they are not better than Thaskin, but probably the visa versa if you line up the facts and the majority of the Thai's general feelings now.

How do you know "the majority of the Thai's general feelings now"? Thousands of protesters are relevant but it's far away from visible how many people support their demands. And there are several demands. Some people might support A but not B.

[Rancid]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Don't think it's much to do with that.

Thaksin represents the Lao speaking Thai people which is about 45% of the population.

They all vote for him and will always vote for him or his proxy.

Which is why the Army can never allow a free election.

That has nothing to do with why the army intercedes. There are various factions in Thailand wanting to follow completely different paths, the army is currently aligned with one of them.

 

Taksin did both some good and bad, however neither that nor the usual corruption was why he was overthrown.

[Tchooptip]

13 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

It was all day on the website we are not allowed to mention

Not sure you're allowed to say we are not allowed? ????

[martinhp]

14 hours ago, 2 is 1 said:

Idiot question! Same than ask  after your most close person died: are you happy now? 

Nice to ask when really hard times! Maybe last year get different answer! 

Not really my brother in law gonna loose his job on the platform as ding-dong put up the taxes same time as oil prices are low

did 2 years ago they did not renew the contract and finish new-year. 

But many other examples like this. 

1 year ago he put house tax on all property starting this year. 

And what the thais get submarines. 

So the only thing that's stupid I do understand is something you need help to figure out. 

 

[billd766]

15 hours ago, Pottinger said:

You can read about the demonstrations on FB and Twitter, but on both BBC and CNN the feed has been blocked apparently.

You can see it on the BBC news here.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54222524

[holy cow cm]

52 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How do you know "the majority of the Thai's general feelings now"? Thousands of protesters are relevant but it's far away from visible how many people support their demands. And there are several demands. Some people might support A but not B.

A is sort of attached to B. But not a good topic to go into to.

[hotchilli]

16 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Today, however, they are hearing their parents complaining about losing their jobs, cars and houses and business failures, as well as the lack of a future, despite their good education, because Thais have been taken advantage of by global capitalism, because Thailand is lagging in several areas, said the former Prime Minister.

His question is very subjective.... the rich are richer, the poor are still poor, just as they were in his day.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

he's a fugitive wanted by the Thai government & others. 

IF, and it is a big IF, he is wanted by the Thai government, no country will extradite him back to Thailand to face political charges.

 

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

I'm referring to Thaksin of coarse. He's out of the equation, so why does he keep talking. 

There is NO ban on anybody using the social media. He is a Thai citizen and using the media to talk to the people of Thailand. You can do the same as Thaksin if you wish.

 

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

I'm sure someone else is looking for him

 

Please tell us who else is looking for him.  If you cannot then most of your posts are seriously biased and few people will be interested and write your posts off as fake news.

[Regyai]

Far easier times

 

Just cast your mind back to to security  and simplicity of tenure for a (then)  welcome farang 

[Bundooman]

16 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

The rich obviously are, the poor not at all.

Cannot wait to read the drivel from the Thaksin haters, who, by the way, was fairly elected, as was his sister, who was also illegally deposed.

Scratch, spit and whine as much as you like. I see no difference between Thaksin and the current bunch. It is all about power and both he and this lot were and are pursuing the same goals! I was never a Thaksin hater and the people liked him - their choice.

But you also have a very selective memory.

Thaksin was, at that time, methodically stifling criticism nationwide and towards the press. On the occasion of his come-uppance, he was already embroiled in scandal over his wealth, widespread abuse of purchased votes, numerous brown lunch boxes and his increasingly dictator-style views. Additionally, at the time, he was the caretaker PM with designs on seizing total power, not the legally elected PM you make him out to be.

His sister came to power on her brother's back, waving a very expensive Samsung Galaxy Notebook -  one for every student in the country, together with a rice scheme that would enrich both he and her, while actually distributing the cheapest Chinese junk rejects that would neither work properly, have the benefit of manufacturing support and failed at every step of the way in terms of production, delivery, transparency and a host of other problems which guaranteed that every single one would be consigned to the bin within 6 months.

The rice was stolen, purchased and sold multiple times on pretexts of being Thai rice - illegally imported from Thailand's surrounding neighbours while Mr. Exile and Ms. 'Thank you 3 times', were raking it in.

You may be right that he was marginally better than this lot, but it was a case of "out of the frying pan - into the fire".

Not quite how it was described in your post, sir!

[Nout]

16 hours ago, rkidlad said:

I looked on True but they seem to be down. If only there were other ways to source news? Oh well, if it’s not on the Nation or mainstream Thai news channels, I guess I’ll never know about it 

It was on Sky news  the BBC and others