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My original visa was a Non Immigrant O visa, granted in 2015, based on retirement. I have less than a thousand baht in a Thai bank. I have no lump sum of 800 thousand baht. Nearly ALL my money is in a bank in the United States. My monthly income is close to 80 thousand baht. My 90 day report was due on the 20th of this month, but there is no indication that this was done for me. I suppose I can expect a fine of 2000 baht in December when I report.  I have no understanding of the process I just went through, unless it was "buying privilege" as one board member put it. The 15 thousand baht fee was advanced to me by the agent, who "financed" it through my girlfriend. I will pay her the fee in a couple of payments. How do these deals go through, despite all the protestations from Thai Immigration??  Everything declared as "impossible" by Thai Immigration and TVF just went through without a hitch. The stamp is official, the signature of the officer matches the previous ones in my passport. straightforward visa process of the Philippines is going to be a relief as soon as I can move.

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5 hours ago, KhunFred said:

straightforward visa process of the Philippines is going to be a relief as soon as I can move.

Skipping out before paying GF the 15 k ?

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How is a 70 year old with an income of nearly 80 thousand baht a month, NOT an "honest" applicant? I don't have 800 k to sit around in a Thai bank. I LIVE off my monthly income. Since I showed up at Immigration, I appeared "in person". The "list price" of 1900 baht is not available unless you have an income letter. Americans and British don't get those anymore.  Bribery is the only option they leave many of us. They want the wealthy (who will never move here) rather than pensioners on a modest income. I am merely confused at their public statements, which contradict what they actually do.

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1 minute ago, KhunFred said:

How is a 70 year old with an income of nearly 80 thousand baht a month, NOT an "honest" applicant? I don't have 800 k to sit around in a Thai bank. I LIVE off my monthly income. Since I showed up at Immigration, I appeared "in person". The "list price" of 1900 baht is not available unless you have an income letter. Americans and British don't get those anymore.  Bribery is the only option they leave many of us. They want the wealthy (who will never move here) rather than pensioners on a modest income. I am merely confused at their public statements, which contradict what they actually do.

Where has the option of showing 65,000 baht per month into a Thai bank gone?

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2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Where has the option of showing 65,000 baht per month into a Thai bank gone?

ALL my money needs to be in my American bank account to pay the bills I owe. Credit card companies do not seem to accept payments from Bangkok Bank.

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It has changed a lot i can remember when they just handed the money to the IM O, with every body just

carrying on with their stuff, and a girl would go to the bank and give the bankbook to the client, i suppose there was Agents then but i don't think you got the adds like ''15k baht and 2 photo's plus passport and any visa anywhere in Thailand '' all over facebook and other social media in Thailand, all since mobile phones became a must have. the only ''crack down'' i have ever seen is the ones to make

sure the Foreigner' pays via their Agent partner's.

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23 minutes ago, KhunFred said:

ALL my money needs to be in my American bank account to pay the bills I owe. Credit card companies do not seem to accept payments from Bangkok Bank.

Then sadly you do not really have 80,000 baht of available income if you have to service debt back home. You may be honest but do not qualify.... and an agent to get a retirement extension would seem to be best for you until you can pay off the debts.

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35 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Then sadly you do not really have 80,000 baht of available income if you have to service debt back home. You may be honest but do not qualify.... and an agent to get a retirement extension would seem to be best for you until you can pay off the debts.

I don't have 80 thousand baht of "available income", anyway, if I have to use my income to live on. Nowhere in the rules does it say anything about "availability". Money is used to live on, that includes paying any debts that you accrue.

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2 hours ago, KhunFred said:

I don't have 80 thousand baht of "available income", anyway, if I have to use my income to live on. Nowhere in the rules does it say anything about "availability". Money is used to live on, that includes paying any debts that you accrue.

The requirement is 800,000  in the bank or 65,000 money transferred into Thailand to live off (or combination)..... it would seem counter-productive to maintain debt where you do not even live. Is the interest rate high?.... I know UK credit cards usually take very high levels. 

You  actually said

3 hours ago, KhunFred said:

I LIVE off my monthly income.

and I interpreted that it was all spent over here in Thailand, my error.

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6 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Where has the option of showing 65,000 baht per month into a Thai bank gone?

That's what I'd like to know. When I went to my local IO yesterday to get a 60 day extension I asked about the monthly income method and was told 'solly cannot, only 400k'

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4 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

but you cannot even pay 15k for an agent ... strange story

While it is counterproductive to maintain debt (500 USD per month in my case). I had only a limited amount of time to get out of the United States. I was forced into retirement a year early and was about that far from being debt free. Not long after I got here in 2015, they decided that only wealthy farangs deserved to live here. That situation and sickness, compounded my problems. Bottom line: don't come here unless you are a millionaire. At least I will be able to buy medical insurance in the Philippines.

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The money has to actually be transferred to a Thai bank or it's not recognized as income for Immigration Visa purposes. Then your bank certifies the money has been transferred from abroad and that the monthly amounts exceeded 65,000 baht. If you draw money from an ATM machine directly from your home bank account you're also getting very poor exchange rates. Your only choice is to use an agent unless you want 800k earning 1% interest. 

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