China air force video appears to show simulated attack on U.S. base on Guam

[PatOngo]

6 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

CCP has already fired the first shot at the western civilizations—Wuhan-19 virus.

Yes, WWIII is underway!

[Morch]

4 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

You reckon. And how do your think a Biden Harris (or is it Harris Biden?) administration will handle China?

 

Will Joe simply cave in on trade, South China sea expansion, supporting Taiwan independence? Or will he stand firm and risk military escalation?

 

I'd be keeping good friends with Japan and India if I were Trump or Biden at this point.

 

Other than insinuating things - do you have any concrete reason to imply Biden would 'cave' on the issues mentioned?

 

So far, most of Trump's tough guy talk did not result in anything substantial - the "easy to win" trade war proves to be nothing of the sort, China is not particularly deterred in the South China sea, and as for the issue of Taiwan independence, so far USA policy did not actually change, as far as I'm aware.

 

Keeping good friends with other nations? Trump is pretty adept at having issues with friendly nations - not actually that big on creating alliances.

[rosst]

On 9/22/2020 at 8:46 AM, steven100 said:

US should send their aircraft carries to the south china sea and blast tomahawk missiles at china and some appache helicopters and F-15 fighter jets to bomb and destroy. 

Off with the birdies this one, hilarious stuff, watching too many movies. 

[Bassosa]

17 hours ago, warcy said:

Preach world peace and not war. USA should not poke their nose at other countries affairs where it has done for decades.

 

 

So what to do with Chinese territorial aggression? What to do if they attack Taiwan, an independent democratic country? USA should just sit back, relax and mind its own business or rather....."preach world peace"?

You don't see China as a threat to the free world? 

[car720]

20 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I have never seen any indication of this. Most people seem pretty happy with how things are going.

 

Taiwan invade PRC? Really? How?

The word used was 'attack' as in a political attack.

[car720]

21 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Also there is a growing contingent of foreign studies in China who will stay and work because of abundance of opportunities.

Would these be the ones that are sponsored by the government in return for belt and road initiatives in their own countries?  Also if they are so confident of people returning of their own volition then why do they still feel the need to censor all outside news and maintain the Great Firewall of China?

[Stargeezr]

Those islands the  China is  developing  are likely on a big oil find as well.

  Do people think  that China does not need oil as much as the next guy.

Well maybe the greenies,  but  then  they are pro electric  and anti oil.

China  has not invaded anyone, yet.  Yet  being a catch word.

Geezer

[rkidlad]

On 9/22/2020 at 11:58 AM, Eric Loh said:

Tad naive on your part. The CCP leadership has been successful in guiding China to prosper economically, lifting hundreds of millions out of poverty, creating a substantial and comfortable middle class with expanded personal (if not political) freedom. China leadership has managed to ensure a relatively long period of political stability with orderly leadership transitions. In fact the Chinese people see democracy not fairing too well and have flaws in poor leadership choices and transition filled with anxieties and often turbulent. 

What's the poverty line in China again? 

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

What's the poverty line in China again? 

Try reading.

 

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2019-10-17/Graphics-Ending-China-s-poverty-by-2020-KREfWKGkIU/index.html#:~:text=China has contributed more than any other country,of Europe%2C which was 741 million in 2016.

[rkidlad]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Try reading.

 

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2019-10-17/Graphics-Ending-China-s-poverty-by-2020-KREfWKGkIU/index.html#:~:text=China has contributed more than any other country,of Europe%2C which was 741 million in 2016.

I'm asking you. Can you just type how much you need to earn in China to be considered to be above the poverty line. 

 

You are the expert in all things China, after all.

 

 

[Eric Loh]

7 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

I'm asking you. Can you just type how much you need to earn in China to be considered to be above the poverty line. 

 

You are the expert in all things China, after all.

 

 

So you didn't read. Here to help. 

 

Item 3. What is the poverty line (included poverty line adjusted with inflation). 

[rkidlad]

Just now, Eric Loh said:

So you didn't read. Here to help. 

 

Item 3. What is the poverty line (included poverty line adjusted with inflation). 

I don't read too good, Eric.

 

Can you just tell me how much you need to earn in China to be considered to be above the poverty line?

 

$7,000 a year, for example. You can quote it in yuan. 

[geriatrickid]

On 9/21/2020 at 7:58 AM, YetAnother said:

not a worry in the world, usa simulations of destroying beijing, shanghai and most of the other big chinese cities is quite old

Really? Can you share these productoions where the USA government  has simulated the  destruction of a Chinese civilian population center?

[ChipButty]

Right now China doesn't have any friends if a war was to start I wonder which side of the fence Thailand will be?

[FritsSikkink]

On ‎9‎/‎22‎/‎2020 at 7:46 AM, steven100 said:

US should send their aircraft carries to the south china sea and blast tomahawk missiles at china and some appache helicopters and F-15 fighter jets to bomb and destroy. 

Sure, start another war, are there not enough countries you bomb at the moment or requires the "defense" industry more money?

[steven100]

8 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Sure, start another war, are there not enough countries you bomb at the moment or requires the "defense" industry more money?

but we have to 'punish' China 

[rkidlad]

10 minutes ago, steven100 said:

but we have to 'punish' China 

Don't let Prayut hear you saying that. He's been doing everything he can to get closer to the CCP over the last 6 years. Xi is his idol. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by rkidlad

[Morch]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Try reading.

 

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2019-10-17/Graphics-Ending-China-s-poverty-by-2020-KREfWKGkIU/index.html#:~:text=China has contributed more than any other country,of Europe%2C which was 741 million in 2016.

 

Try quoting acceptable/reliable sources:

 

China Global Television Network

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Global_Television_Network

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/china-global-television-network-cgtn/

[Morch]

2 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Right now China doesn't have any friends if a war was to start I wonder which side of the fence Thailand will be?

 

Pretending to look studiously at the Andaman Sea, and hoping it will all be over before someone presses the issue.

[Morch]

24 minutes ago, steven100 said:

but we have to 'punish' China 

 

Who's "we"? You and what army?

[cjinchiangrai]

14 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Who's "we"? You and what army?

And why do they need to be punished? 

[Morch]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

And why do they need to be punished? 

 

Well, I do agree that the PRC should be held accountable - at the very least for the initial cover up. Doubt this could amount to anything more serious than the diplomatic level, and even that is unlikely. All the talk about war, attacks and the like is nonsense.

 

The funny thing is this - if the PRC is to be blamed for some nefarious plane, what does it imply with regard to other countries' intelligence services and leaders? 

 

IMO, Trump is just playing for the home crowd, trying to deflect and minimize his failures. It doesn't mean the PRC does not carry any responsibility, though, or that it's practices are to be condoned.

[simple1]

8 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

China has not invaded anyone, yet. 

Don't know your definition of 'invasion' but PRC military direct aggression against a foreign country includes Russia, India, Tibet, Vietnam and Korea, plus proxy wars.

Edited September 24, 2020 by simple1

[billd766]

On 9/22/2020 at 7:46 AM, steven100 said:

US should send their aircraft carries to the south china sea and blast tomahawk missiles at china and some appache helicopters and F-15 fighter jets to bomb and destroy. 

Not one of your better ideas Steven.

 

Starting a war in SE Asia that will engulf a large area of the world including the USA, Japan, China, both N & S Korea, Australia, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia and probably India and Pakistan as well.

 

For what purpose would you want to start a war like that? It certainly wouldn't be to prove how smart you are, as that is one of the dumbest suggestions I have read for weeks.

 

Ask any politician if they would happily start a war and 50% or more would say yes.

 

Then ask the same question of any service person, active or retired who will have to fight this war that you seem to want, and 90% or more would look at you as though you were crazy.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

but we have to 'punish' China 

Who is WE exactly?

[steven100]

2 hours ago, Morch said:

It doesn't mean the PRC does not carry any responsibility, though, or that it's practices are to be condoned.

and carrying all responsibility for allowing unhygienic slaughter practices to be carried out at markets everywhere doesn't do a damn thing for the millions upon millions of folks who lost their jobs, houses, assets, cars and meager savings and put many into poverty world wide.

 

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by steven100

[steven100]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Who is WE exactly?

We means the rest of the world, or those who suffered because the Chinese government allowed unhygienic slaughter practices to be carried at markets everywhere. 

But I guess your fine ....

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Don't know your definition of 'invasion' but PRC military direct aggression against a foreign country includes Russia, India, Tibet, Vietnam and Korea, plus proxy wars.

Didn’t fit the description of invasion. Russia and India were territorial disputes, Vietnam was a border war because of Vietnam invasion of Cambodia, Korea was to thwart US aggression near the Chinese border and Tibet was to quell a rebellion. China withdrew and didn’t occupied.  

[Morch]

17 minutes ago, steven100 said:

and carrying all responsibility for allowing unhygienic slaughter practices to be carried out at markets everywhere doesn't do a damn thing for the millions upon millions of folks who lost their jobs, houses, assets, cars and meager savings and put many into poverty world wide.

 

 

 

Please don't quote bits of my post out of context in order to push your nonsense agenda.

[Morch]

15 minutes ago, steven100 said:

We means the rest of the world, or those who suffered because the Chinese government allowed unhygienic slaughter practices to be carried at markets everywhere. 

But I guess your fine ....

 

You do not speak for any "we". The World is not unified in support of your views. The World is not known for being able to effectively act in a coordinated manner.