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Spoke to my friend the other day he said he is going down the embassy route,than the agency one that many have done he said.He also said many are worried and have flights booked for the last day or week.expensive as well he said.

   Everyone is running round trying to sort out a visa.Will be interesting to see what happens he will keep me informed on his visa issues along with a few others

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Definetely would be better for Thailand for give extensions 1900thb every month for people who are still here and cannot go back, i got letter from consulate that i will get only one time and what after?? 

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It has been said so many times, the people at the government, who make the rules, definitely don't have brains, for 100% sure now.

At first I still had my doubts, but for now...I'm sure.

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17 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I've read pretty much all 22 pages of this thread, and am amazed at how many - maybe the majority - support the idea that tens of thousands - maybe the 150,000 that has been quoted - should be made to leave the country, despite them being no burden on anyone, despite them contributing to the economy, despite them supporting Thai businesses.

 

Not one has offered any sensible reason why the government should act in that way, only saying it's the rules and people should have made earlier arrangements to leave. None of those supporting the government's stance has put forward any benefit, any at all, for Thailand in making these people leave. Not one, because there are none. None at all.

 

The situation has caused massive problems, financial and social for everyone. The pandemic is ongoing, unchanged from March, worse even, yet now Thailand has arbitrarily decided to act as if it is all over and normal life must be resumed from Saturday in strictly enforcing visa rules. On what grounds, I wonder, except for a total indifference to its 'guests'.

Please stop, I don't belong to the majority, even I have an retirement extention, I agree with you, the government have to do the best to keep the people in the country.

Under cover: you know what you have but you don't know what you will get.

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6 minutes ago, Peterphuket said:

Please stop, I don't belong to the majority, even I have an retirement extention, I agree with you, the government have to do the best to keep the people in the country.

Under cover: you know what you have but you don't know what you will get.

You know what pragmatic Buddhists say? 

Whatever you get, make the best out of it. 

And that's what Thais do. 

There's a global pandemic, so Thailand closes her doors. There are Thai bargirls that can run a bar, so let them run the bar. 

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21 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

The pandemic is ongoing, unchanged from March, worse even, yet now Thailand has arbitrarily decided to act as if it is all over and normal life must be resumed from Saturday in strictly enforcing visa rules.

Folks should understand some key points:

 

- You will not die if you return to your home country, whichever that may be. I have been in my own country since 2019, now I am travelling through Europe for fun selectively (places with less headaches such as testing), and I am doing just fine.

 

- It's not Thailand's responsability to shelter individuals without a proper visa, just because departing from Thailand takes them out of their comfort zone.

 

- Real tourists have a 10-20 day per year holiday, then they go back to work in their home countries.

 

- Thailand has made it pretty clear by its actions that they do not wish to accomodate digital nomads on perpetual visa runs, and the message has become more obvious starting 2014 onwards.

 

- Covid cases might be actually higher in Thailand than one's home country, due to lack of testing and the regime playing with the numbers, so that is a very lame excuse.

 

 

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1 minute ago, lkv said:

You will not die if you return to your home country,

970,000 deaths.

 

45,238 returned home to their home country

 

This affected over 387,329 people, directly and indirectly

 

I told them all the same thing.........I was wrong

 

but it's a mai bpen rai.....

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Ventenio said:

970,000 deaths.

Tough luck.

 

This will keep going for years, if I am to believe some articles in 50 years covid will still be around, it's just too widespread.

 

You expect Thailand to shelter people for the next 10 years?

 

You can find another country that is less xenophobic and seek shelter there, if you are not willing to assume risks as the general population in your home country already does.

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16 minutes ago, lkv said:

Tough luck.

 

This will keep going for years, if I am to believe some articles in 50 years covid will still be around, it's just too widespread.

 

You expect Thailand to shelter people for the next 10 years?

 

You can find another country that is less xenophobic and seek shelter there, if you are not willing to assume risks as the general population in your home country already does.

Maybe you have to be xenophobic to protect your country. Maybe the captain of the Titanic should have been a bit more careful before his boat hit the iceberg. Thais are that careful in medicine, and that's why they are successful. 

Americans call this cybernetics, the naval art of governing a big big boat. The boat you're trusted with. 

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1 minute ago, micmichd said:

Maybe you have to be xenophobic to protect your country

With the number of travellers from China making up 40-50% of tourism prior lockdown, I can only imagine how many deaths have been swept under the carpet.

 

Plenty of confirmations from people here going to hospitals, and hospitals doing whatever they can NOT to test.

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7 hours ago, smudger1951 said:

Is'nt Thailand just wonderfull, trying to kick out people when there are no scheduled flights in or out of the country. I'm sure many would love to get out now in the present xeno climate.

No flights ??...... not searching good guy !…. KLM Bangkok to Amsterdam and connection flights available ….example to Heathrow ….and further from this world Hub to the World 

 

September & October schedule  but must look under SINGLE flight  

https://www.klm.co.th/search/open-dates?connections=BKK:A>AMS:A&pax=1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0&cabinClass=ECONOMY&activeConnection=0

 

 

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23 hours ago, genericptr said:

Given the absolute shambles tourism is currently in, I still can't believe they're going to send all these tourists home without even offering some alternative visa.

 

What's the explanation for this behavior?

On the face of it , there is no logical reason , seems utter madness.

Dig a bit deeper though and one might find that those responsible for the decision , may well see personal financial benefit.

The concept of greater good goes out of the window when a shiny new Merc is in the offing .

 

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12 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

It would, appear that way to the uninitiated but the Thais know exactly what they are doing.

 

The economic crisis will be more than mitigated by the face the regime will gain from defeating the COVID-19 virus and getting rid of all the foreigners hanging on is just an added bonus. 

Hahaha! Is this really a serious comment!? 

 

I have lived here for many years so I am not what you might call 'uninitiated' in the ways of Thai culture/thinking etc.

 

I would say that the 'mitigation' that any face saving the current regime might garner ( it is already massively unpopular with more and more Thais - as we are seeing from the hundreds of thousands gathering in BKK) will be found wanting when compared to their failing economy in the coming months. It is after all, one that is so heavily reliant on both foreign tourism and foreign investment. Although it would definitely seem there is a lower instance of COVID here, and this probably is the case, the fact that it presents as mild symptoms for the vast majority of people - symptoms which can and are often confused with other corononaviruses like Flu and Rhinovirus - coupled with the fact that the Thai government have done very little testing means that we have NO REAL IDEA of the levels of Covid in Thailand. What we do know is that there are a myriad of businesses going under, millions now out of work, many thousands now destitute and potentially many hundreds of thousands more soon to follow. The knock on effect has yet to be felt. I know which I would choose between a high covid infection rate and massive swathes of crucial industries decimated and an economy very negatively impacted for years to come. The fact that they need the extra money as badly as they obviously do, YET are still willing to evict thousands of folks that would put 100s of millions or more back into their economy is perhaps a comment on how they feel about westerners remaining here, I'll agree with you on that much. How myopic can they be? Very, as we have seen time and again.

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