Who's Holding Out For A 22-Sept Announcment?

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, Jack Hna said:

The agents need to be visible to do what you are saying. Visible meaning I can look them in the eye. That's not happened they cannot be located. Even my IO office is unable to refer these people. You say what you say in a very invested way. Like it's not clear. 

Is your post a wind up joke. 

Just as one example Thai Visa Centre in Bangkok. Full office with many staff. Google and you can see all with directions. 

My good friend dealt with Key Visa Pattaya.

Excellent result for him few weeks back.

Your post is nonsense re cannot be located.

[DrJack54]

28 minutes ago, notmyself said:

 

Thur. would be the best day I'd say. 

Have you made a booking. As far as I know MTT require booking.

[n00dle]

2 hours ago, audaciousnomad said:

I am sure it's already chaos and long lines. ???? 

Wasnt last week. Downright rapid in fact

[DaftToPutRealName]

3 hours ago, audaciousnomad said:

The most ridiculous thing to me is the fact that they don't remove the exit/re-enter requirement to extend a visa.  They could easily issue a temporary order allowing in-country extensions given the current conditions in the world. It's a two-faced system here. Please come visit Amazing Thailand, but if you fall in love with our country make sure you bend over so we can screw you for liking it so much here. 

Don't forget the bit where they enjoy a fantastic reception and all the benefits of rich western nations when they go outside, including a huge disapora enjoying residency and eventual citizenship across the developed world through education, job markets, marriage or investment.

[vermin on arrival]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Have you made a booking. As far as I know MTT require booking.

I made one but also read they have normal queue service too. Think with booking will be less wait. For visa exempt, it is only a broad time, morning or afternoon and nothing specific.

 

Here in point 1 of the rules for booking "If you do not show up on time, lack of required documents, spend lots of time to edit required documents or choose wrong type of service, Immigration division 1 reserves the right to cancel the queue. However you can still use the normal queue service." Last sentence seems to imply there is also a normal queue service, no?

 

Here's a question. Is this the right service for covid extension with embassy letter at MTT for people on visa exempt? "Applying for short term Visa At Muangthong Thani (K - Counter K)" I found nothing else that seemed to fit.

Edited September 20, 2020 by vermin on arrival

[audaciousnomad]

17 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:

Here's a question. Is this the right service for covid extension with embassy letter at MTT for people on visa exempt? "Applying for short term Visa At Muangthong Thani (K - Counter K)" I found nothing else that seemed to fit.

That's the one I chose. I guess it means first-come first-served for visa exempt folks.  Gonna be a long day for some who don't get there early.

[vermin on arrival]

36 minutes ago, audaciousnomad said:

That's the one I chose. I guess it means first-come first-served for visa exempt folks.  Gonna be a long day for some who don't get there early.

But I have a booking number: 35596. Does that mean anything?

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, khhainuui said:

Non imm b 90days. Have apartment, soon married (waiting documents from "home") im not wishing any amnesty, just let us do visas for f sake...

Usually the only type of 'visa' obtainable in country is conversion from a TV or Exempt Entry for various purposes to then pursue an Extension. Or an Elite. You already have the Non-Imm-O Permit and need an Extension. Usually it is retirement (50+), marriage, or volunteer. There are also shorter extensions for having a Thai dependent or wife, or with an embassy letter showing you cannot get home.

Do not turn your back on the option of using an agent even if you feel it is 'corrupt'.... it is the way things are done here. If you get to a situation of being 'locked up', it is very unpleasant and difficult to get out of, and deportation is usually the result.

Edited September 20, 2020 by jacko45k

[audaciousnomad]

BK Post has a headline warning against overstaying. The article says "Over 150K" foreigners have yet to extend their permission to stay in Thailand.  I wonder if that will be enough to motivate them into once again extending the amnesty. That's a lot of potential brown envelopes they'd be walking away from. ???? 

[audaciousnomad]

8 minutes ago, Guderian said:

No need to panic, there's plenty of time yet, lol...

 

No panicking here. I have an embassy letter. ???? 

[DrJack54]

Just now, audaciousnomad said:

No panicking here. I have an embassy letter. ???? 

30 days goes quickly. Next step?

[2 is 1]

Nothing panic you can always overstay in nice detention centre! Stay as long as you want!

[herfiehandbag]

9 hours ago, vermin on arrival said:

But I have a booking number: 35596. Does that mean anything?

That there are 35595 people in the queue in front of you?

 

I sincerely hope not!

[Sambotte]

I was thinking... They could annonce something like "there will be no arrest, deportation, nor blacklisting, for overstay"... "Overstayer would have to pay at departure, max 20K".

 

Way to not change what they said, and to not make very bad looking problem.

[audaciousnomad]

1 minute ago, herfiehandbag said:

That there are 35595 people in the queue in front of you?

 

I sincerely hope not!

If there is that many people, it means immigration will be working some long hours this week...or...they will need to extend the amnesty.

[audaciousnomad]

14 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

30 days goes quickly. Next step?

Well, unless some nearby countries unclench their tight a$$e$, it will have to be Europe or America unfortunately.  But I will also keep petitioning to extend with my embassy letter(s) for as long as they will permit it.  While it is hellish the hoops we need to jump through here, it is nothing compared to the hell going on in the West.

[Oldie]

9 hours ago, vermin on arrival said:

But I have a booking number: 35596. Does that mean anything?

That means a lot. They will deal with you after the person with the number 35595 and before the person with the number 35597.

[worldfun]

16 hours ago, khhainuui said:

Yes i do have all the company docs, not had any business for it though yet, this bs covid came right at the time i was getting customers and contracts.. i doupt that can get marriage before next saturday, and im so lucky to carry passport of Finland that helps only middle east people open handed.

don't forget the 'medical' option. just make up something & get the certificate or let an agent do the legwork & make it failproof. locked up aint nice!

[Sambotte]

33 minutes ago, audaciousnomad said:

BK Post has a headline warning against overstaying. The article says "Over 150K" foreigners have yet to extend their permission to stay in Thailand.  I wonder if that will be enough to motivate them into once again extending the amnesty. That's a lot of potential brown envelopes they'd be walking away from. ???? 

Interesting article.

Would be crazy they start to arrest foreigners en masse.

150K foreigners without new brown envelope ? Not clear in article, but if so...

 

In the meantime they desesperately try to get 1200 new tourist a month ? ????

[2 is 1]

2 minutes ago, Sambotte said:

Interesting article.

Would be crazy they start to arrest foreigners en masse.

150K foreigners without new brown envelope ? Not clear in article, but if so...

 

In the meantime they desesperately try to get 1200 new tourist a month ? ????

If that number is correct or even close, they have to do something! Or all they new plan's go down to drain right away!(idot's plans anyway but they not get it)!

If coming news that all foreigner need pay extra or get some kind problem here now, nobody new not come! 

Really bad advertisement! 

[2 is 1]

3 minutes ago, worldfun said:

Failure to report to obtain a visa renewal by the deadline will incur a daily fine and lead to authorities tracking down tourists at addresses kept in the IB's database.

So they going to visit 150 k address lol! Maybe they put traffic police to haddle that coz they don't have nothing to do anyway!

Edited September 21, 2020 by 2 is 1

[tonray]

1 minute ago, 2 is 1 said:

So they going to visit 150 k address lol!

Too funny...this thread has gone from "Waiting for the new Amnesty Announcement" to "They'll never take me alive..."

 

Ha ha ha ha

[Sambotte]

Pay extra is not the problem.

The obscure agent route is the problem.

And called corruption. Could backfire on gouvernement quick if they arrest people.

 

The stupid thing is the Embassy letter. Many Embassies do NOT provide them.

To just get rid of this non necessary document would be an easy late safe move.

 

Or just a fine at departure for overstay, without any other problem...

We will see tomorrow...

[Bangkok Barry]

15 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Where to start. "a month or two and then make my way back....." Good luck with that plan.

The agents will tell you straight away your options and give you a price. It's simple and open. The pricing is very dependant on different situations. For example the ME marriage guys entered on a non o where as those that entered on tourist visa or visa exempt need to obtain non o prior to extension. Some are more easy than others for example retirement vs marriage extension etc etc. 

You had options prior to last week of amnesty.

You really love to push the agent option. I wonder why that is, bearing in mind that direction is a minefield of corrupt practises which might come back to haunt next time around - as in, for example, weaving around the need for 400,000 this time, and when it is time to renew next year an IO might be wondering where evidence of money was a year ago. They might dig, they might not.

 

I think that people would need to be really desperate to use an agent with the risks that could entail. Help in filling in forms is one thing, getting around legal requirements is quite another.

 

I'm going to Kalasin immigration on Wednesday after we are sure there is no statement coming from Tuesday's cabinet meeting, and I'm going to ask questions about what might happen if the border and quarantine situation remains the same at the end of my 60-day marriage extension - as I expect it will be. Is it possible that more than one extension will be allowed due to the extraordinary circumstances, or will those circumstances be ignored and it will be business as usual.

 

That would mean the only path would be the 400,000 baht annual visa, and I'll ask what the solution would be for those who don't have that amount available (it is already borderline too late for some as the money has to be deposited for two months). I expect to be told that those people would need to use an agent to make the problem go away. Bearing in mind what these agents cost, and the share they give to the IO for their trouble, I can imagine that such IOs might be able to earn in five minutes what they officially earn in a month.

 

I'm sure that those in Kalasin or anywhere else would never indulge in such practices, and that stories of such are entirely false and without foundation.

[2 is 1]

Why people don't want go they own coundry? Those who can flight! To me 8 month in Thailand one time is more than enough.  Im sad about those who need come here and can't! 

[KC 71]

35 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

That there are 35595 people in the queue in front of you?

 

I sincerely hope not!

maybe 95

 

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[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

That would mean the only path would be the 400,000 baht annual visa, and I'll ask what the solution would be for those who don't have that amount available (it is already borderline too late for some as the money has to be deposited for two months).

The solution would be use an agent. 

Personally I have never used an agent.

If I was on ME marriage I would have already put the 400k in bank long ago and applied for annual extension. If I couldn't come up with under $13,000usd to stick into Thai bank a/c for only couple months then I would use an agent.

[Sambotte]

So, as immigration said in some newpaper... renew tourist visa ???

 

Did i miss something or what ?

There is NO such thing as RENEWING a TOURIST VISA no ?

Only option are :

Embassy letter : no way if your Embassy does not provide it.

Medical : we are not sick yet thanks...

TRANSFORM visa : in MANY CASES impossible without agent-corruption !

 

They will annonce something, or this official corruption system will blow up in the media i guess. Especially if they arrest people for that.

[audaciousnomad]

7 minutes ago, Sambotte said:

So, as immigration said in some newpaper... renew tourist visa ???

 

Did i miss something or what ?

There is NO such thing as RENEWING a TOURIST VISA no ?

Only option are :

Embassy letter : no way if your Embassy does not provide it.

Medical : we are not sick yet thanks...

TRANSFORM visa : in MANY CASES impossible without agent-corruption !

 

They will annonce something, or this official corruption system will blow up in the media i guess. Especially if they arrest people for that.

The author of the article probably meant "extend tourist visa". Sometimes, the word choice is not so accurate.  Even "visa" is incorrect in this context. It should be "extend permission to stay".