Jump to content

New blood, computer brains and frozen heads: How billionaires 'will live forever'


Recommended Posts

The super-rich are already living the best lives. Now they're trying to make those lives last forever with a wide array of weird and wonderful ideas from the fringes of science

 

Over the past year, the gap between the super-rich and the rest of us has grown wider than ever before.

But the difference between ordinary people and billionaires might be more than just money. Some high net worth individuals have been looking into extending their lives far beyond the 70 or 80 years most of us might hope for.

 

Peter Thiel, for example, the billionaire co-founder of PayPal, has invested in a number medical research start-ups looking extending life expectancy though his Breakout Labs fund.

 

One of the companies longevity obsessive Thiel has bankrolled is Ambrosia.

 

Ambrosia is one of three outfits looking at experimental “vampire” blood transfusions that put the blood of young people into the lens of oldies.

 

According to commercial finance experts ABC Finance, the cost of the trials currently ranges from £6,000 to about £215,000.

 

The technique has worked well in mice, although as yet there are no positive results from human trials. The US Food and Drug Administration has issued a statement waning that the process “has no proven clinical benefits” and could be “potentially harmful.”

 

If warm blood can’t make you immortal, what about freezing it instead? The idea of chilling a body to postpone death until a future society has the technology to repair any injury or illness.

 

For years, the story circulated that Disney founder Walt Disney had been frozen shortly before his death from lung cancer in December 1966. There’s no evidence that there’s any truth in the rumour, but research into cryonics has been progressing since the early 60s.

 

The first living subject was frozen in 1967. No-one has yet been revived after cryonic freezing but several people have been frozen, or had their heads removed and frozen, over the years.

 

Thiel, his PayPal colleague Luke Nosek and US talk-show host Larry King are all known to have signed up for freezing at the point of death.

 

Based on figures from the Alcor Life Extension Foundation, one of the leading cryonics providers, it would set you back £152,000 to have your entire body frozen and preserved, or a more affordable £61,000 if you just wanted your head put on ice.

 

There’s also the option to take a beloved companion with you into the future. One cryonics provider also offers a range of options for pets – £4,000 for cats or dogs and even £760 for a pet bird.

 

But if cryonics and vampire transfusions are limited by the capabilities of the human body, why not get rid of the human body altogether?

 

The idea of recording a human personality into a computer and somehow turning that recording into a sentient living being has been the stuff of science fiction for decades. But it’s edging ever closer to science fact.

 

Elon Musk’s Neuralink device promises to monitor and record the entire output of a human brain. Two companies, Nectome and the Terasem Movement Foundation, are working on turning this recordings into fully-functional personalities.

 

It’s early days though. The process is described as “100% fatal” and we are a long way from turning ourselves into living computers.

 

Still, Sam Altman – the dot com billionaire who partnered with Musk to found artificial intelligence research company OpenAI – is reportedly one of 25 people who have paid Nectome a £7,600 deposit to have their thoughts uploaded into a mainframe.

 

All these advances in biotechnology and robotics will remain expensive for a long time to come, so only the super rich can afford them.

 

FULL ARTICLE

  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Billionaires..... panicked and terrified when they imagine their last moments of life....breathing their last breath. 

  But they will find... although they might be able to extend their life for a while..there is nothing anyone, including them..can do to live forever. Sooner or later, they will have to meet their end...as we all will do. 
  In the mean time.....just be good.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9/21/2020 at 9:33 PM, Thaivisa Web Content Team said:

Based on figures from the Alcor Life Extension Foundation, one of the leading cryonics providers, it would set you back £152,000 to have your entire body frozen and preserved, or a more affordable £61,000 if you just wanted your head put on ice.

 

On 9/21/2020 at 9:33 PM, Thaivisa Web Content Team said:

The idea of recording a human personality into a computer and somehow turning that recording into a sentient living being has been the stuff of science fiction for decades. But it’s edging ever closer to science fact.

 

 

On 9/21/2020 at 9:33 PM, Thaivisa Web Content Team said:

we are a long way from turning ourselves into living computers

555 That is a funny article ... ( have to clean my screen off the morning tea now ...)

 

There is some serious research on longevity done by Greg Fahy :

 

https://www.lifespan.io/news/greg-fahy-at-ending-age-related-diseases-2019/

 

"Dr. Greg Fahy of Intervene Immune gave a presentation about his company’s Phase 1 human trials in which the thymus, a critical organ of the immune system, was regenerated through a combination of existing drugs, restoring immune function and causing epigenetic biomarkers to show rejuvenation."

 

There is no life in a body , if there is no spirit in it ... ( oh , wait , that is not true , a body can be kept alive , even the brain is dead ...) but that would be a kind of Zombie then ...

 

I might not know a lot , but one thing I can tell you : There is no way a ' spirit ' can be deep frozen and reanimated some years later .

 

If , ever , those " deep frozen billionaires " are brought back to life , it will be just vegetative life functions , no personality or character can ever be deep frozen and reanimated .

 

Anyway , why not just accept the circle of live with a limited time given to each individual ?

 

We are born and , one day , we die ... that's it . ( May be the ' spirit ' survives and there is a ' fifth dimension ' , a spiritual one ... one that scientists do not now about , ( but some suspect it ) , one that cannot be ' measured ' as it is immaterial ...? )

 

Who really wants to live forever in this crazed world anyway ?

 

Everything we know about  is limited in time , no exceptions ...

 

Oh , one more thing : yes , you , theoretically , can record all you knowledge on a hard drive , but only algorithms used for AI could give it some kind of ' personality ' , but that personality would not be yours .

 

 

Edited by nobodysfriend
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

 

555 That is a funny article ...

 

There is some serious research on longevity done by Greg Fahy :

 

https://www.lifespan.io/news/greg-fahy-at-ending-age-related-diseases-2019/

 

"Dr. Greg Fahy of Intervene Immune gave a presentation about his company’s Phase 1 human trials in which the thymus, a critical organ of the immune system, was regenerated through a combination of existing drugs, restoring immune function and causing epigenetic biomarkers to show rejuvenation."

 

There is no life in a body , if there is no spirit in it ... ( oh , wait , that is not true , a body can be kept alive , even the brain is dead ...) but that would be a kind of Zombie then ...

 

I might not know a lot , but one thing I can tell you : There is no way a ' spirit ' can be deep frozen and reanimated some years later .

 

If , ever , those " deep frozen billionaires " are brought back to life , it will be just vegetative life functions , no personality or character can ever be deep frozen and reanimated .

 

Anyway , why not just accept the circle of live with a limited time given to each individual ?

 

We are born and , one day , we die ... that's it . ( May be the ' spirit ' survives and there is a ' fifth dimension ' , a spiritual one ... one that scientists do not now about , ( but some suspect it ) , one that cannot be ' measured ' as it is immaterial ...? )

 

Who really wants to live forever in this crazed world anyway ?

 

Everything we know about  is limited in time , no exceptions ...

 

Oh , one more thing : yes , you , theoretically , can record all your knowledge on a hard drive , but only algorithms used for AI could give it some kind of ' personality ' , but that personality would not be yours .

 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

The headlines are a bit off on more frontline research into longevity. I'd recommend reading Dr. David Sinclair's (researcher at Harvard) book Lifespan: How we age- and why we don't have to. It is written for a lay audience but goes through some of the science. 

 

Some of the near-term stuff includes Senolytics, or the removal of senescent cells. These treatments won't be for billionaires, they will be affordable, far more affordable than treating age-related disease (e.g. cancer). Much of the near-term stuff is likely to improve our healthspan a bit more than lifespan.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Technology will solve the problem once we have full blown quantum computers that can record and store the data in a human brain.   

We are probably 20-30 years away from being able to do it but I'm sure it will happen.  

Link to post
Share on other sites

The future might be ok for billionairs living in their walled compounds ,but the way the world is going ,i fear for us ordinary humans the good times will come to an end , you can see the way the west is being destroyed  as we speak

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just looked up the costs of cryogenic services.  Quite reasonable!

Head only - USD 90,000

Whole body - USD 150,000

Must be a demand as there are 6 companies offering cryo services.

 

Even had some math on if you banked USD 50,000 now at 3% year, after 500 years, compounded returns would be around 130 billion dollars!  

Should be able to afford a cloned body and a 1-bedroom condo with that kind of scratch!

 

 

  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9/21/2020 at 3:33 PM, Thaivisa Web Content Team said:

 

If warm blood can’t make you immortal, what about freezing it instead

I thawed about this cryo lark ..

but then got cold feet ..

  • Haha 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, robblok said:

The horror.. just think about Trump living forever 🤣

Trump living forever would not be near as bad as A.O.C. and her “squad” and Harris and Biden living forever. Now that would TRULY be a disaster.

🤣

Link to post
Share on other sites
43 minutes ago, Iron Tongue said:

Just looked up the costs of cryogenic services.  Quite reasonable!

Head only - USD 90,000

Whole body - USD 150,000

Must be a demand as there are 6 companies offering cryo services.

 

Even had some math on if you banked USD 50,000 now at 3% year, after 500 years, compounded returns would be around 130 billion dollars!  

Should be able to afford a cloned body and a 1-bedroom condo with that kind of scratch!

 

 

I heard that one of the companies a few years ago weren’t keeping an eye on things properly, and didn’t top up the body and head containers with liquid nitrogen or whatever they use. Apparently they need to be monitored and topped up from time to time. The bodies and heads thawed out and began to rot. Horrible surprise for the owners of those bodies that expected to be brought back to life.

 The owners of the business apparently tried to disappear to avoid law suits from the relatives and legal charges. Can’t remember what else happened.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...