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7 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Sounds like gossip, honestly. I went this whole time not knowing anyone who caught the virus, then a few weeks ago trying to get back to work offshore, found out that several of my co-workers caught the virus onboard ships in Brazil. Everyone recovered fine, I talk to them all the time, and they said the worst of it was the fear of having it. Some didn't even know they had it, and others felt most of it in fevers/chills/cough. Not saying it isnt bad, but it certainly isnt a death sentence and most people fully recover without even needing hospital treatment. 

How is it gossip when its confirmed. These were people my parents spoke with on a regular base and knew they died of covid no gossip. Not sure why you try to act like its not true that people die of covid and that some people know more people then others.

 

The guy i know best was really sporty and now can hardly walk for a longer distance. Father of someone i knew (and friends with my father). No lies nothing. Just the truth deniers dont want to hear it.

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5 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Why is it that when I say what I say, you guys immediately jump off the deep end with extremes? 

 

I paid attention to Italy, and I paid attention to NY, and there's nothing wrong with shutting down if you're literally going to overflow hospitals (which didn't happen in either case) 

 

But shutting down (even partially) for 6 MONTHS over minuscule cases is madness. That does not mean I dont think covid exists or that I would elect to go to a covid party, but I would certainly like to have the choice of free movement and liberty combined with protecting myself. 

 

 

You want free movement but that is how it spread your liberty endangers others. 

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People do things every single day that could kill them.

 

For example:

  • Driving (risk: crash)
  • Walking across the street (risk: hit by car)
  • Going down the stairs (risk: falling down and hitting your head)
  • Eating solid food (risk: choking to death)
  • Swimming (risk: drowning, shark attack)

All of those risks could be mitigated.

 

People could refuse to drive or ride in cars, they could refuse to go into buildings with more than one floor, they could only eat soft food, they could never go swimming.

 

In fact, they could just stay in their house all the time. That is an option for anyone who wants to avoid many risks of dying. Though it is possible that through no fault of their own, they could die in their home, such as if their home is burned in a gas or electrical fire or hit by an airplane.

 

There is no total way to avoid every risk to your health, and people have a right to choose what decisions they make in the way they live their lives.

 

  

13 minutes ago, robblok said:

Mate the covid deaths are actually much higher they have compared average death rates with the death rates now and it shows we have even underestimated covid deaths.

 

This is far more deadly than the flu and if you get it you have lasting health damage often. That is not something the flu does.

 

 

All of the alleged complications of Covid=19 are also possible complications for the flu. We didn't hear about these rare complications in relation to the flu because they weren't a big risk, for example male infertility due to temporarily increased temperature from the flu.

 

The average age of people dying from Covid-19 is 80+. But they are giving people the impression that younger, healthy, people should be afraid of this.

 

If this was about saving lives, they would have given old, frail, sick people the OPTION of being isolated. Old people have the right to take the risk and enjoy freedom in their last year. The fact that they (governments) didn't tells you everything you need to know.

 

Deaths are lower than ever, while cases (testing) is higher than ever

 

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2 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Think most people will only start seeing the craziness in all this when their football club folds due to no money for 18 months. Can easily see 25% of all football clubs going broke in the coming year

As if people care about soccer. Would be great if a lot of clubs go bust maybe the players will have to pay for less and not those crazy superstar salaries. 

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1 minute ago, nemo38 said:

People do things every single day that could kill them.

 

For example:

  • Driving (risk: crash)
  • Walking across the street (risk: hit by car)
  • Going down the stairs (risk: falling down and hitting your head)
  • Eating solid food (risk: choking to death)
  • Swimming (risk: drowning, shark attack)

All of those risks could be mitigated.

 

People could refuse to drive or ride in cars, they could refuse to go into buildings with more than one floor, they could only eat soft food, they could never go swimming.

 

In fact, they could just stay in their house all the time. That is an option for anyone who wants to avoid many risks of dying. Though it is possible that through no fault of their own, they could die in their home, such as if their home is burned in a gas or electrical fire or hit by an airplane.

 

There is no total way to avoid every risk to your health, and people have a right to choose what decisions they make in the way they live their lives.

 

  

 

All of the alleged complications of Covid=19 are also possible complications for the flu. We didn't hear about these rare complications in relation to the flu because they weren't a big risk, for example male infertility due to temporarily increased temperature from the flu.

 

The average age of people dying from Covid-19 is 80+. But they are giving people the impression that younger, healthy, people should be afraid of this.

 

If this was about saving lives, they would have given old, frail, sick people the OPTION of being isolated. Old people have the right to take the risk and enjoy freedom in their last year. The fact that they (governments) didn't tells you everything you need to know.

 

Deaths are lower than ever, while cases (testing) is higher than ever

 

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Again your putting your head in the sand comming up with non issues like a true denier.


I showed you that average death rates show much higher numbers. In those numbers are already your flue complications. If you can't understand that then I will stop talking because you just arent bright enough.

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1 minute ago, robblok said:

Again your putting your head in the sand comming up with non issues like a true denier.


I showed you that average death rates show much higher numbers. In those numbers are already your flue complications. If you can't understand that then I will stop talking because you just arent bright enough.

 

Very few people are dying. Those are old people who will die soon anyway, which is sad. But death is part of life. Where are the young, healthy, people who are actually being killed by Covid?

 

100 year old people are also surviving Covid-19.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/20/102-year-old-new-hampshire-woman-survives-covid-spanish-flu/5838433002/

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2 minutes ago, nemo38 said:

 

Very few people are dying. Those are old people who will die soon anyway, which is sad. But death is part of life. Where are the young, healthy, people who are actually being killed by Covid?

 

100 year old people are also surviving Covid-19.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/20/102-year-old-new-hampshire-woman-survives-covid-spanish-flu/5838433002/

oh your one of those.. lets kill the old of so i can have fun. Ok got it.

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5 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

"Your liberty endangers others" is quite the tyrannical statement. You assume so much out of anger and blame, and it makes no sense. 

 

The virus is not bad enough to ruin peoples livelihoods and futures, and remove rights from people. Thats my position. 

 

This is not denying covid, or its severity. 

Obviously the majority of people thinks otherwise. Most governments think this way. You are the one who is thinking differently.

 

I find covid bad, thankfully my goverment is supporting people. This of course cannot go on forever. But because of the lockdowns and other stuff its far less then it could have been.

 

You just have a hard time accepting a different reality. I dislike it too just see it as something we should get through. I hope Thailand keeps the borders locked as its pretty ok here with almost no covid problems. Its much better to do it like this then to open and close all the time. 

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11 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Oh really? Some useful stats here..............

 

"By way of a more apt comparison, Covid-19 has already killed around four times as many people as a bad flu season in the US.

 

In the last decade, 2017-18 was the worst flu season with 61,000 deaths, followed by 2014-15 with 51,000 deaths".

 

Those numbers are not accurate. A guy who died in motorcycle accident is counted as a Covid death.

 

https://t.co/aiAMKKy3wo

 

The New York Times included a guy who was shot to death as a Covid death

 

https://t.co/fuLJnIrC1x

 

In the CDC's guidelines, people don't have to be tested for Covid in order to count in the Covid statistics. 

 

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3 minutes ago, robblok said:

oh your one of those.. lets kill the old of so i can have fun. Ok got it.

 

Your over emotional, virtue signalling, response does nothing to help people.

 

Old people have the right to ignore the danger of living life to spend their last years how they like, seeing grandchildren, going into the sun. Let people have the OPTION of isolating. 

 

My body, my choice.

 

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Just now, nemo38 said:

 

Your over emotional, virtue signalling, response does nothing to help people.

 

Old people have the right to ignore the danger of living life to spend their last years how they like, seeing grandchildren, going into the sun. Let people have the OPTION of isolating. 

 

My body, my choice.

 

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Id agree with you if you could not spread it and only get it. Now your body can endanger others.

 

Your logic is severely flawed and your intelligence is lacking. Your funny cartoons don't do much and your arguments are easy to debunk. Too easy that I don't even as it gets tiresome.

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